Breakout moment that would fuel talk he would be able to be an alternative. Joe biden remains the formidable front runner. That exchange was over medicare. It was not an effective delivery about medicare because everyone is talking about whether or not Julian Castro took a page out of President Trumps political playbook and attacking joe bidens health. On the issue of medicare, joe biden wanted to have the contrast in debate with Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders repeatedly. He criticized senator sanders, calling him a socialist. He urged Elizabeth Warren to come out with some kind of mechanism for how she would pay with her medicare plan. The general thinking is that those three contenders, warren, joe biden, and Bernie Sanders, emerged largely unscathed from that third debate. Tier ofook at the lower tier the polls, the question becomes who have any of these candidates can turn this into a four way race as we edged toward the iowa caucuses. David there is a question of how much of