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>> joining me tonight, matt bennett, former white house deputy assistants and democratic strategist, hes now executive vice president for public affairs at third way. matt, i appreciate you coming here and talking about this with us. why is your organization, think you have to send this out. why now? and why is it that wall street,, writes the guys who consider themselves the smartest guys in the room dont actually know how the electoral process works. >> its just amazing, stephanie, weve been p...

That joe biden would in 2020 by more than 20 points. that is not going to happen. and theres 1 million other reasons. so, our mammal to them is simply, an effort to kind of shake them away and say you have to look at this more closely. this isnt going to work. >> so who is, and no labels, right? you say that the operation is a chaotic mess. i am desperately curious. because all sorts of wall street, guys who have given the money, in the last year have said to me you have to get to know little la...

The process works. like, yes, in a cocktail party, in nirvana you could say yes, the american people. we should have more choices than that. but why arent these people with big, big bank accounts actually understanding how this works? >> its a mystery to me. these are people that spent all day asking critical questions of the people over money -- >> but not on this. >> they look very hard below the hood at everything theyre going to invest in except apparently for this. because if they took one ...

And when we come, back is the race for second place in iowa, as ron desantis is wrapping up his attacks on nikki haley. what he is telling nbc news just 11 days out from the iowa caucuses, and later, an exclusive look at a memo headed for wall street donors on why no labels is a very bad investment. that will only then benefit donald trump. you dont want to miss this important warning. the 11th hour just getting underway on thursday night.

Join the millions of people taking back their privacy by downloading duckduckgo on all your devices today. turn up the volume for. this, because i want to talk about no labels. the group that is considering running a so-called bipartisan unity ticket for president in november. all sorts of critics, think that third party candidate like this could hand the election to donald j trump. and, tonight, we have an 11th hour exclusive. a real regarded center left think tank is sounding the alarm about...

Of toss-up status, you and me see that donald trump goes down below the 270, at 257. imagine the same thing were to happen with georgia, which biden won last time, and nevada again a state we have leaning to trump right now but biden won last time, its 225 to 235 and you see where the battleground is going to be here, phil. so it is not impossible to imagine that joe biden will have some of these states that he won last time come back into more competitive territory at the moment though hes got ...

Win, he may move into new hampshire and start to make some progress. if he loses, its pretty much over for him. he is in fourth place currently in new hampshire behind chris christie. so i think we will know a lot more in the next week or two, and at this point i dont think anything is going to happen. thats after iowa between the two primaries you might see some action. >> what is no labels looking for in terms of when its going to decide whether or not to mount a challenge like what are -- wha...

Biden and trump is neck-and-neck and desantis is losing. so i thought that was a strong argument. no labels is saying, look, probably after we see all of this mess and the train car wreck and next couple of months, they have to march or so you get past super tuesday and if everybody in the country realizes that we are stuck with two unappealing candidates thats 70% of the country doesnt want, there is a chance they might try to put together a unity ticket to have the courage to put the country f...

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>> brian: steve, more than ever, they have a choice, right? more than ever, they have r.f.k. i think the no labels people is going to give an option. you got jill stein going to be an option. you are going to have a lot of options when it comes to voting for president. i think joe manchin is getting in. >> ainsley: who do you think trump pick as the vice president? >> brian: i think if i was to say right now, i think elise stefanik. >> ainsley: really? not one of the other presidential candidate...