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This nominating process, after all, were really choosing a president and not a vice president. >> yeah, and in a way, does it -- does it undercut -- i mean, there are other women running. there is another black woman running. >> right. >> does it sort of almost try -- an attempt to clear the field? is that what it might look like. >> it might well do because if you have, you know, a front-runner running with a vice presidential candidate of this kind of quality, then the others may feel that the...