that s right. it is formed through the experience of coalition. i mean, this is actually one of the remarkable things is that you get into coalitions with people, you start spending time around them and it changes how people think about stuff. that s one of the things we ve seen. there s been i think probably too much made of african-americans and gay marriage and african-americans don t like gays, they re the reason prop a passed in california. what we ve seen is the coalition that is the progressive coalition and democratic coalition which has both gay people, african-americans. african-american gay people. you can be both it turns out. that that s i think that that coalition, the politics of working together has changed opinion. yeah. i think like, you know, this is why i was beginning to say i was most happiest about marriage equality. that s me speaking as a liberal. getting back to this question about is this good for the country overall? i know plenty of african-am
that intellectual stuff is good. when you say state s rights, i hear slavery. there was something on the internet i posted on twitter, there was a shop owner who closed down his store on wednesday morning and put a large sign across the door that said, you know, we are mourning the death of the country that our forefathers deeded to us. and i said, why is that racist? because i didn t get the deed. because the deed wasn t in my name. it wasn t in your name. that s right. that s right. it was in what did the country look like when your forefathers had power. what did it look like? that s kind of the trouble with this conversation is that using buzz words and other things that fan the flames of white populism but not understanding how it reaches other people and then you re surprised when 95% of african-americans don t vote for you. that s precisely the problem. there are a lot of people who don t believe they re using that rhetoric in a racial way. they re being accused
very long history, both parties from whatever movement racializing citizenship. why would this not happen? this is an american thing. you know, the one disagreement i have about what you said is you can t understand this without white supremacy. there s no white resentment without white supremacy. if you take away the idea that america is first and foremost and should always be run by white people, if you take that away, the white resentment doesn t make any sense. it immediately dissipates. i just don t this sounds like a strange defense of the republican party, but it s like there s a market fest and a market was created by history and so that s a profound statement. but this notion that some party wouldn t take advantage of that it s almost like the war on drug argument. i think you re right about the market for it. i actually think this is the problem republicans have, which is that the republican party as a political institution is being ill served by the markets that
of the subtexts that happened on tuesday night and the reaction to it. i gave a little bit of data about latinos who are generally democratic voting and liberal in the polling. goldie, you wanted to say something. i think that african-americans and latinos alike report more frequent church attendance than any other demographics in this country. i think where social conservatives, white evangelicals get it wrong is trying to attach their politics in that way. after ams and latinos don t take their front beyond their front yard. if you find a white evangelical running in georgia who is trying to get more of the black vote based on being pro life or anti-gay marriage, those are not functional bonds to make because i am far less likely to take my faith to my neighbor s house or into the voting booth. let me also say though ideology that people have isn t something just out there or just internal to them.
there s some truth to that. i ll tell the story about my mom. my mom is the classic republican target voter. she lives in a respec tabl suburb of detroit. hard working. never took a handout. deeply religious. common sense sickal, frugal. she s a lifelong democrat. when i spout republican nonsense, she says, how did i raise this child. a big part of why she s a democrat is she perceives that the religious christian republicans are out to get her or don t want her in america. i don t believe that s true. you wouldn t have joined the party if you did. i strongly disagree with that, but that s her perception. that s the perception of a lot of people like her. i think there s just this view that republicans don t want, you know that s the perception. the perception that s propagated by people who aren t republicans as well, that republicans aren t interested in those voters. it s demographic, right? the base of the republican party, the people who elect