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no program to help kids like him. i looked. i wonder if he s dead now for serving us food and dreaming of something different. if cowboy is dead, then he died a long time ago and if cowboys is dead, it s our fault for going there in the first place, giving his family the option of trusting us when we are the least trustworthy people on the planet. and leading off our discussion tonight, laura, who served two tours in afghanistan, david, columnist for usa today and host of deep state radio podcast and, laura, i ve read your piece and your feelings about this. i also saw your writings indicating that in 2010 when you
were in afghanistan, this is the way you thought this would end. yes, lawrence. and i don t think it was just me. everyone there could see the writing on the wall. they don t know how to train people, they knew how to smash things. we ended up doing all the work and i just don t think that we understood the country well enough to establish anything permanent. and, laura, you write that the choice at this point was stay forever or get out now. there was no third choice. that s correct. i mean, this was always going to happen, the only question was when. the best time for this to happen would have been many years ago but the second best time is now. though it breaks my heart to see
was in everyone s mind. you could see it happening again. but it certainly wasn t something that was talked about. any kind of officer or oversight level, i just don t think that the military ever really learned the lessons of vietnam. it was not something that we ever really talked about. i would like to say i do think what joe biden said about the afghan troops is a little bit unfair. the afghans are some of the most toughest, tenacious fighters on the planet. they didn t want to fight for the government we gave them. which is what we did in vietnam, we made the same mistake and now we re seeing the same thing. laura, david, joseph, thank you all three who know much more about this subject than i do for starting us off tonight. really appreciate it. our pleasure. thank you. coming up, tonight nancy pelosi has a new challenge to
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