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Minnesota said you showed no interest in racial justice. do you wish now that you had done more? >> thats not my record. i am proud of the work our staff did. 400 people in the office. the cases that came to us, the community that came to us, they said there was no justice for their little kids. >> joining us now to discuss, the editor of above the law.com. contributor to the nation as well. the co-host of the podcast, unredacted, and former deputy stand secretary of state, rick tyler and msnbc ...

>> different topic. >> heres the story were about to talk about. >> the cover of todays new york daily news saying, hang on, ruth. sentiments echoed by many across the country right now as justice ruth bader ginsburg is doing well after repeating a course of radiation therapy for pancreatic cancer. many wondering how the country would be impacted if president trump is able to name a third supreme court justice. joining me as you saw, fired up as well, is ellie mistel, editor for above the law.co...

Ultra-elite judges. like all of the clerks. almost all the clerks. i think its nice he did this. i think we remember supreme court justice not for their clerks. im less interested in who hes hiring and more interested in whether hes going to apply the law fairly to everyone. >> shannon: i think we agree that should be the way going to assess her justice. above the law.com, writing the headline is i dont give a flying thing how many women law clerks brett kavanaugh harris. she goes on to write it...

-- 28 years in prison. joining me malcolm nance, jill wine-banks and elie mystal, editor of above the law.com. the paul manafort thing bugged me a lot. here is a guy who is unrepentant about his crimes, he didnt help the special counsel as rick gates and others have. he actually continued to lie while he was doing his deal and yet judge amy berman jackson follows up a lenient sentence reading him the riot act and giving him a short sentence. what happened? >> i also wanted to see paul manafort g...

All he has to prove is they told untruths about him which resulted in harm to him. it is a far easier case than if he were an elected official, high government official where he thrust himself into the news and made himself into a public figure. he has a significant chance of either winning the case with the washington post capitulating which they rarely do. in this case they may be better off settling the case and having it litigated particularly in a jurisdiction which wont be necessarily frie...

And he obviously isnt going to americans in general dont have give us information. a favorable opinion of the his tapes are filled with lies. >> and thats where we begin government. >> right. >> right? so that also is going to be part this hour. the presidents personal lawyer of your defense strategy. coming out swinging against his >> i think its important to clients former fixer, michael point out, i think youre exactly right. thats going to be the defense cohen. while severing ties with cohen...

With the president? >> yes. >> are you going to sign up for obamacare. >> no. >> wait, you told me you already did. but check this out -- deleted. >> the president just received word from the secret service that michelle wants you back at the white house now. >> in that case i have to go. but before i do, ive always wanted to get a selfie with cookie monster. come on up. and a selfie for you. all right. and have you signed up for obamacare? >> no, i havent. >> i doubt cookie monster is going to ...

>> wilego torques llie from above the law.com. tough one to follow. what do you grade the president. >> i will give him an a. i know it bothers a lot of people when obama does something against president mccain. but obama got elected. he has the power to do something, right. >> yeah, something indeed but kelly ann something he get to do to act without regard to two other branches of government that are equal to the president and power. >> that is it the chief concern here, governor, the presiden...

Larry. >> wilego torques llie from above the law.com. tough one to follow. what do you grade the president. >> i will give him an a. i know it bothers a lot of people when obama does something against president mccain. but obama got elected. he has the power to do something, right. >> yeah, something indeed but kelly ann something he get to do to act without regard to two other branches of government that are equal to the president and power. >> that is it the chief concern here, governor, the p...

>> wilego torques llie from above the law.com. tough one to follow. what do you grade the president. >> i will give him an a. i know it bothers a lot of people when obama does something against president mccain. but obama got elected. he has the power to do something, right. >> yeah, something indeed but kelly ann something he get to do to act without regard to two other branches of government that are equal to the president and power. >> that is it the chief concern here, governor, the presiden...