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every single one was able to say as carter did, i promise you i would never tell you a lie. this hurts, this really hurts. or al gore working on that concession spegs that my husband helped him on where he said the law of the land on this election is lost, i document agree with it, but i must do it. hillary clinton saying we cherish the transition of power. it makes you so proud of each one of those candidates. they had lost. they let down their constituents. they were able to make the transfer of power. it's an essential part of our democracy that has to happen next november. >> as we sit here today, how concerned are you that it may not happen? >> i am concerned that it may not happen. i somehow think if the majority of the people come out who have different values and they vote -- voting is absolutely essential. it's the premium value. as lyndon johnson said, it's the one thing all the rest of our democracy depends on. what is democracy?
governor. it was a trigger law that said when roe v. wade became overturned, that this would be the law that would go into place. so that may be a topic that will continue to be discussed in south dakota. are law today allows an exception to save the life of the mother but the people in south dakota photo will decide what their laws look like. >> do you think it should look like and have an opinion and i can i can wait forward and i can look at the science and what we've learned about babies and the woman believed that we should protect life. >> but i think that our law today is what south dakota wants and they'll continue to have that debate and i'll continue to follow through on my role would just to make sure the will of the people is enforced do you think there should be exceptions for rape and incest, for example and i think that every state is going to look different. >> that's would be different. the dana is that i've constantly looked in. we rely in south dakota on the fact that i'm pro-life and we have a law that says that there there's an exception for the life of the mother. and i just don't believe a tragedy should perpetuate another tragedy. i believe in taking care of mothers that are in a crisis situation and that we should be
campaigns and i've one of all, i don't know how to lose, so i'm gonna do everything i can and to make sure i help donald trump win again. >> okay. governor, i want to turn to the issue of abortion. donald trump now says that even if congress were able to pass a federal abortion ban, he wouldn't sign it. and it should be handled by the states. when you were in the house, you co-sponsored legislation multiple times to ban abortion at the federal level. now you also say that it is a state issue. what changed for you well, the environment changed when roe v. >> wade was overturned. that returned to the power back to the states, which is appropriate. and donald trump is exactly right. every state's laws will look different based on what the people in those states want to be there law when it comes to abortion we should be focusing on these women that are in crisis and they're an unprecedented situations and they need help and support all the information that they can possibly have. so my state's laws may look different than what's going on in california or arizona or new york. and i think that's entirely appropriate. we've i may be
pro-life, but that doesn't necessarily mean that that i'm a dictator. and then i get to decide that donald trump recognizes the constitutional authority of the states. and i love that, i love that we have somebody running for president who actually follows our constitution and recognizes on this issue that having that decision made at the state level as their appropriate decision after what happened in arizona when civil rights era law came back and is now the law of the land. they're the former president donald trump said that that state law goes too far. the state, the law in your state it is similar. it's an abortion ban, including areas where a woman is raped or in times of incest so do you believe that this law in your state goes too far? this is he said about arizona, are you with him on that or do you think that he's wrong? >> it's interesting because the law in my state was passed decades before i ever became
office. but let's focus on the specifics of the case. prosecutors alleged donald trump falsified five business records to hide hush money payments weeks before the 2016 election. as i mentioned, he violated both state tax and federal campaign finance laws. so are you saying that even if that's true he shouldn't have been charged and that he is above the law what i'm saying is that these prosecutors are using someone as whose testimony has been proven to be a liar. michael cohen has lied before congress multiple times. that's their main witness. i would say that he certainly is not someone who can be trusted to do the right thing during this jury trial, they're also using a woman's testimony who signed a letter saying that this affair did not happen, that she has testified the past that this never occurred and so now they're going forward with the case built on that and saying that because donald trump page legal bills, that now he can be prosecuted for something that even the person that alleged it happened is saying did not happen. so
this country illegally. if joe biden doesn't get this under control, he's going to lose the election. and it is spreading new mexico. i'd say new mexico is in play. new mexico is getting crushed now, more than ever. and if you live along the border, you're number one issue is immigration. immigration russia, and you see the president going to florida this week, which is a state that they think might not might now be in play because of that state's new very restrictive abortion law what's that law does not make it any easier if now trump to try to hold on to florida. >> florida tough case. but the presence is going to make i think a very compelling case in the state and the campaign will do a good job and making a competitive at the very least, listen, i think donald trump is like that figurine that might have been on your grandmother's mantle, right? from a distance, it looks very pretty, but the closer you get, you but as kids have been knocking it over for years, it's kinda bunch of cracks in it right now. i think the closer we get to donald trump, we see the cracks that are evident in his candidacy. it's just everett in the fundraising numbers he's being outraised by extraordinary amount. he's
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constitution, recognizes on this issue that having that decision made at the state level is there appropriate decision? >> after what happened in arizona when civil rights era la came back and is now the law of the land. they're the former president donald trump said that that state law goes too far. the state, the law in your state is similar. it's an abortion ban, including areas where a woman is raped or in times of incest. >> so do you believe that this law in your state goes too far just as he said about arizona, are you with him on that or do you think that he's wrong? it's interesting because the law in my state was passed decades before i ever became governor. it was a trigger law that said when roe v. wade became overturned that this would be the law that would go into place. so that may be a topic that will continue to be discussed in south dakota, are law today allows an exception to save the life of the mother
on a technicality. then he said, we'll let the courts deal with it. there can be criminal prosecution later. i think some people in the supreme court might be thinking, let's kick this back over to congress, or the people. we'll let them deal with it. the 14th amendment says that nobody who swears an oath to support the constitution of the united states, that violates that oath by engaging an insurrection or rebellion, shall never be allowed to hold federal or state office again. unless the congress reverses that divestment of ability to serve by two thirds vote. it is very clear. if you are an original, as a textualist, if you want to go by the language of the constitution, it is clear. it is the supreme law of the land. the question is, what we follow that or not? i was a little despairing that the supreme court would take the responsibility seriously. until last week, when trump's lawyers went to the d.c. circuit on a different case and
candidates might talk about the issue to what voters? >> absolutely, brave. push that top decision we have seen an evolution and how black voters think about abortion. prior to the job decision, went at woman's right to abortion was the law of the land, abortion was much more of a wedge issue in the black community. we saw a lot more new once, a lot more variance and how people supported or did not support abortion. since then, every time abortion has been on that ballot, blip voters have supported abortion more than any other group in the electorate, including in a high of just three months ago when issue 1 was on that ballot and black men, 87% of black men supported a shoot one. they wanted right to an abortion. so i do think democrats have an opportunity here to not just mobilize voters, black voters around abortion, but two disqualified republicans who have demonstrated extreme