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November 19, 2019
A -- >> and i want you to weigh in, but devin nunes is in his seat now. ranking republican. he will have an opening statement. he is joined there by steve coaco castor right next to him. jim jordan is always casual. but here is the chairman adam schiff walking in right now. he will open up the hearing, bring to a start. but go ahead, made your point. >> just a quick point to point out that these witnesses today are not leakers. and these allegations in ron johnsons letter that portrays them as p...
November 19, 2019
Channels are being used, which is exactly what you would like to have happen. you would like people to have a if you see something, say something philosophy. what theyre trying to do is say, the process is the philosophy. when you cannot attack the underlying facts that are being stated, if they have been corroborated not only the rough transcript of the presidents phone call himself, the presidents own statement and other people, at least over a dozen witnesses, what do you do? you try to go ov...
November 19, 2019
Colonel vindman, theres another thing mr. morrison told us in his deposition. he said he was not concerned about the call itself. he said there was nothing illegal or improper on the call, but he was concerned about the call leaking, the contents of the call leaking. >> excuse me -- >> he said this. he was concerned how it would play out in washingtons polarized environment, how the contents would be used in washingtons political process. >> excuse me. >> mr. morrison was right zp. >> excuse me,...
November 19, 2019
>> now mr. morrison, shortly after you heard the july 25th call, you testified that you alerted the nsc legal adviser john eisenberg pretty much right away, is that right? >> correct. >> and you indicated in your opening statement or at least from your deposition that you went to mr. eisenberg out of concern over the potential political fallout if the call record became public and not because you thought it was illegal, is that right? >> correct. >> but you would agree, right, that asking a fore...
November 19, 2019
Still in his arms is now serving a prison sentence in britain for skipping bio to avoid being extradited to sweden is he now likely to be released or will he be kept in jail. a songe is not being kept in prison in the u.k. primarily with a view to next edition request from the united states the british artists who sued him again and disproportionate money which has nothing to do with the easiest clearly outside any extradition requests from the swedish also or it is and its. unfortunate. d that ...
November 19, 2019
>> mr. morrison, shortly after you heard the july 25th call, you testified that you alerted the legal advisor, john eisenberg pretty much right away. is that right? >> correct. >> you indicated in your opening statement at least from your deposition that you went to mr. eisenberg out of concern for the potential political fallout if it became public and not because you thought it was illegal. is that right? >> correct. >> but you would agree, right, that asking a foreign government to investigat...
November 19, 2019
Went from listening to a presidential call directly to the national security lawyers, is it not? >> yes, that is correct. >> and he said that your concern was not that it was unlawful, but that it might leak, is that correct? >> that is correct. >> the problem with it leaking is that what would be leaking as a president asking a foreign head of state to investigate mr. biden, is another problem? >> well, i believe that i stated i had three concerns about what the impact of the call leaking might...
November 19, 2019
Sensitive information, leaking, perhaps, sensitive or secret information. what about this? >> this is a serious problem for adam schiff and his group of cohorts up there. obvious -- it appears to me that they didnt really vet their witnesses carefully in terms of the credibility of their witnesses. they apparently thought that simply trotting out a military officer with all sorts of ribbons on his chest would be sufficient to grant unquestioned credibility to the witness. well, thats not the cas...
November 19, 2019
Whistle-blower. >> colonel vindman, mr. morrison said he was not concerned about the call itself. he said there was nothing illegal or improper on the call, but he was concerned about the call leaking, the contents of the call leaking. >> excuse me. >> he said this, he was concerned how it would play out in washingtons polarized environment, how the contents would be used in washingtons political process. >> excuse me. >> mr. morrison was right. >> excuse me, mr. jordan, could i get a page? >> p...
November 19, 2019
Critic we heard on the committee, they were just airing policy differences. no, actually these people who have worked with different policies and under different presidents by definition. as you say, many went to the lawyers through the official cha channels because they saw something that looked wrong, inappropriate, and potentially illegal. that goes to something else here which is ultimately, this is not about leaking. its not about criticism, its not about anyone breaking the rules. the whis...