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And mcgovern really transformed the republican and democratic parties. goldwater paving the way for conservative ascend ants of ronald reagan and george mcgovern laid the groundwork for the kind of majority coalition that put barack obama in the white house four years ago. >> when we see -- when you talk about bridge-building, at least postcampaign, we can see how barack obama brought in hillary clinton. they had a raucous campaign, a lot of bridge-burning. but you show how over history thats do...