austin, texas, and laura eagan in washington, d.c. starting with you here, stephanie, let s talk about the size of the crowds there in austin. how big are they, and how boisterous? reporter: yeah, good afternoon to you, alex. this of course is ground zero for that abortion law. we are here at the state capitol in austin. the crowd i would say is pretty sizable. this has been going on for over three hours now. we had at least thousands, maybe 5,000 people here, all of them very passionate about this issue. they are calling upon the biden administration, the u.s. supreme court to put a halt to this pretty much what they say is an out and out ban on abortion here in the state of texas. let s review it for you, this legislation was passed more than a month ago on september 1st. it prevents abortions once there is a heartbeat, and as we know, that is roughly six weeks along, and most women don t even know they re pregnant at six weeks. so they are very, you know, all
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msnbc correspondent jacob soboroff. let s talk first about the viability of this plan, rounding up, the president has said millions but we re talking at least thousands or tens of thousands of people very effectively, somehow moving through a backlog that the courts have and getting them deported. it s not going to happen on the scale of millions. i don t want to minimize the impact this would have. one family alone can be catastrophic to the health and well-being of the families. that s why i said earlier when we were talking, this could be family separations just by another name because you have so many undocumented immigrants in this country that have american citizen children who are living here, but what the president has said, for the next couple weeks we re going to start operations to remove millions of undocumented immigrants in this country. he didn t say it with quite that language. it s just not operationally feasible. but we should remember that back in the 1950s preside