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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210808 07:58:00

suggested killing meghan have you injected someone with potassium chloride it would hurt their heart and stop them? yes. you knew that as a doctor? yes. when we would ask him a question, if he did it feel like we freeze it right, he would re-freeze it for us. you need to restate your question and put it into context. i believe that he felt like he was smarter than cameron and i. did you just want to smack him? yes. [laughs] leon, they argued, didn t care who lived or die in his week. he did nothing to stop this. in his mind, his ex girlfriend is sitting by herself in a warehouse somewhere in the city, zip tied with deep around her mouth. he thinks he can just walk away from this. it took the jury all of an hour and 15 minutes to decide leon s fate. we the jury find the defendant leon phillip jacob guilty of solicitation of capital murder. guilty of all charges. and in texas, the jury can also

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210808 07:12:00

different. i was like, good morning. the next words out of my mouth were, what s wrong? her face was blotchy. marks and things like that all around. it was the morning after meghan s desperate flat fight from her boyfriend leon. she close the door, broke out. issues until that moment, ariel knew very little about s troubles with leon. she looked afraid and in disbelief that something like this happened to her. at the women top, meghan s cell paint and sensitively. it was just nonstop. emails, phone calls. all from leon. erratic messages from an account called leonlovesmeghan. it s like, i love you. here s this wedding ring i was going to buy you. then the next email would be, oh, you are so dumb. i want nothing to do with you. meghan texted leon to leave her alone. they were over. but there is more to come and it was infuriating. found meghan out that leon had withdrawn most of the money

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210808 07:54:00

samantha knecht and her co-council cameron calligan knew they had a strong case against leon jacob for solicitation of capital murder, and additionally, for solicitation of kidnapping. they also knew they had a potential problem. as you headed to trial, what was going to be the cornerstone of your case? the recordings. the recordings. there was no way that he was going to be able to get himself out of all of the things that he said. what would you say was the weakest part of your case? well, in the aspect of the recordings as well. the defendant is educated. he s intelligent. he was cautious in his approach to talking to the undercover officer. that was the problem. in all those recorded conversations, leon never said, kill meghan. yet, the prosecutors had to prove that s exactly what he

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210808 07:49:00

kind to meghan, it was a different story with valerie. he shifted blame to his late lover, even as he tried to sound sympathetic. valerie was not a monster. she clearly had reached a breaking point and i can say that i condone that she what she wanted to have. done as a doctor, as a human being, taking someone s life is not okay with me. so you are saying that these two when you are not in on this together. not on having anyone killed. no. did you mastermind having meghan or matt killed? there was no plan to get anyone killed. so no, i did not have anything to do with that. do you think valerie had something to do with? it i don t think she masterminded it. i think that she progressively got there. convenient for leon, valerie

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210808 07:38:00

they were looking for. they had the money paid to the undercover officer. and so, the spring there. track right now, we re going to redo your. writes me? they arrested leon and valerie for solicitation of capital murder. and revealed there was no murder and no kidnapping. meghan and mack we re alive and well. they had no idea. they believed that their issues had been taken care of. they had no more problems. so immediately, go from the death notification to your under arrest for solicitation of capital murder that s ahead snapper? yeah, that will get your attention. was valerie mcdaniel a murderous mastermind or another victim of leon jacob? coming up couldn t believe that this was happening. to my sister. look could ve driven salary to do this? i hate the idea that every everybody thinks i m a monster. she tells her story and leon

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