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go back and correct you. i also want to know does anybody know who decided that the trip would and in helsinki? because it was a genius move, you know? you're actually not clear to me if it was the white house that said, hey, i know, let's go to helsinki five years to the day, same place, it just couldn't be what we if that was bait from the nordic leaders themselves. but either way, we just, like so breathtaking that moment from trump. like, i still gasped when i hear it. >> me too. >> and that contrast for biden to be, you know, not just showing american leadership, but also just be so great at, you know, nailing that speech and that press conference. >> so joe, how does he continue this type of momentum in terms of not just the optics but a real kind of generating a sense of having complete control over the situation, what is different at the nato summit? >> well, nothing different and
with more on this let's go to helsinki where i'm joined by eoin mcnamara, a research fellow at the the finnish institute of internal affairs. this is a hugely significant for a fourth on land which is abandoning its long—held stance of neutrality. it is and it is a significant day for the nato alliance as a whole and security in northern europe. the attitude of _ security in northern europe. the attitude of the _ security in northern europe. the attitude of the people of finland tonight or changed overnight, before the russian invasion of ukraine 30% were forjoining nato and after the invasion it was 80% so how real do you think any threat is from russia towards finland? figs you think any threat is from russia towards finland?— towards finland? as john maynard ke nes towards finland? as john maynard keynes once _ towards finland? as john maynard keynes once said _ towards finland? as john maynard keynes once said when _ towards finland? as john maynard keynes once said when the - towards finland? as john maynard keynes once said when the facts i keynes once said when the facts change i change my mind on the facts changed in late 21 when russia started issuing ultimatums to nato that it would not take any new