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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:31:00

actual person involved in this, i ve been just making things up to satisfy you guys. how long was that second tape withheld? and by whom? over five months. months and months after because he said those things the day after his confession? right. i don t know that nick is involved in this because we never i mean, you can check my phone records, we never talked on thursday or friday about this. and the only reason i picked him out of the crowd was i heard through the grapevine that his brother s car was used. what are you telling me what do you think this is going to accomplish now? nothing, i mean, i m just trying to come clean, i mean. that was a bombshell. i livers own attorney had not been told by authorities that he recanted his confession. basically, from the official story, his reconditioned

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:27:00

denials of involvement they knew, they said, that he was lying. we ve had so many people sitting in that chair, okay, who think that they re smarter than us. no. yes. i m down at the break. you made a mistake. you did and i have to pay for. it why were investigators here in nebraska that that livers was lying. beside the polygraph, there is a state profiler who suggested that this was the sort of crime committed by young males who know the victims. how else will they know to find the farmhouse whale in the middle of nowhere if they did not know them? and after that, said the profiler, this was the sort of crime that appeared to be very personal. an execution. that livers rang those bells, all of them, and wearing them loudly. eventually detectives got quite explicit telling livers that he was headed for death row, unless he would start giving them what they knew to

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:41:00

a second search of the car, by the way, the first by an officer turned up nothing. this was blood from the murder victim, wayne stock, how did it get there? it was the fbi that started asking that question. none of sampson or livers, handled the case, csi chief david cofield himself and after months of digging the fbi concluded co-filled must have planted that swipe of blood himself, phony evidence. to nail down a shaky case. it was a bombshell. david co-full division commander of the csi unit in douglas county nebraska was indicted on for federal charges including falsifying records and violating live hours and sampson civil rights. he pleaded not guilty to all charges, defiantly told reporters he would rather go to prison then resign.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:37:00

that. to ratchet up the pressure. you are at the house for when he was killed. no, i was not. your body is telling me otherwise. so we need to get past that. what s going on here? i honest to god was not at this house when they were killed. but the investigators do not believe nick samson. after all, that livers had already told him that nikki sampson was behind the whole thing and the two them had actually planned the crime together on their cell phones in the two days or so before the murder. and so, said the detectives, they were pretty sure. that livers was telling the truth, nick samson was lying. for you were there when he was shot. i was not there. i want you to understand how this system works. i do understand. i m getting framed for something i didn t [bleep] do. but it did not look good for nick samson.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:26:00

hour to lincoln where he stayed all night with his girlfriend, sarah, and her young son and a roommate. he did admit to having disagreements with his uncle, wayne, over the various family issues, but those were minor, he said. any problems between you guys? oh, years ago we had a tiff. but, you know, that s been done and forgotten. after five hours of questions that livers agreed to take a polygraph. do you know for sure who caused the death of wayne stop? no. if livers was looking to clear him self of suspicion by taking that test, it did not quite have the desired effect. your subconscious body is telling the machine. you cannot fool it. i didn t have anything to do with this. you did. i did not. you did. i m sorry, you did. for more hours and despite his continued

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