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Nixon proceedings and the clinton proceedings. lets be real. the key witnesses havent testified because the president has refused to let them. >> thats exactly right. i want to ask you about the 1999 model which was referenced over and over again. max, you think pelosi has leverage here. please explain. >> she has a lot of leverage. youre seeing the fact that president trump really wants a trial. he wants to be acquitted very quickly in the senate so he can spend the rest of the election year go...

She delivers articles of impeachment, but they have to understand before they do, that will be the republican talking point. theyre afraid their case is weak. >> its a piece of leverage that she has but its not a great piece of leverage. it can be turned around so quickly to say, if you were confident in your case, you would send it to the senate and say go ahead. there are also no prescribed constitutional rules for how they have to do this, and the congressmans definition of a fair trial is ve...

Much for health care, a reason congress has never passed legislation on climate change and on and on. we have a broken government. im saying in order to change that as an outsider ill put in term limits. ill put in direct democracy. the american people are not being served by the government. >> how do you do that when you need a constitutional amendment. >> as far as im concerned, the actual leverage is direct democracy. what we see in 26 states is that when you collect signatures, when you can ...

Democratic investigations that withheld documents from congress. on abuse of power, the president likely to argue his call with president zelensky was perfect. >> if theyre talking about the obama administration and fast and furious and eric holder, they were compelled to hand over a lot of those documents. thank you very much. with me now ron brownstein and harry lipman. harry, where does this go? pelosi wants a trial. its not likely theyre get the witnesses they want. mcdonnell saying hes no...

Were a trial in a court of law you would be dismissed from the jury because you come into it with a prior bias. >> i hear you. im a daughter of a litigator. ive been in many courtrooms, but its not a courtroom. its an apparent political process. >> it is a trial. >> i hear you. trust me. all senators take the oath to be in impartial. i wonder what its going to take. if you were speaker pelosi, what would be your threshold for feeling like its fair enough to send over the articles? mcconnell is n...

End. an interesting tidbit in our reporting, there have been conversations in the white house about whether pat cipiloni is the right person to lead the defense in the senate. theres questions whether he can deliver the tv moments president trump is looking for in this trial. president trump wants to make a show of this trial and wants to bash democrats. theres questions how other of the presidents allies might get involved like jim jordan, mark meadows. effectively in a holding pattern waiting ...

Mitch mcconnell said earlier last night, he doesnt care if the articles of impeachment never reach him. dont have a lot of leverage. we know that. >> jim clyburg said the same thing, hes okay with an indefinite hold. >> i dont think democrats from swing districts who put themselves on the line feel the same way. they want to see the process come to a conclusion. >> i think youre right. cnns polling shows theres a decline in national support for impeaching the president. what was striking to me w...

After. >> the constitution says that it shall be the sole, "the sole power of the house" to impeach. but it will be the sole power of the senate to try the impeachment. what nancy pelosi has attended to say, its not your soul power. im the speaker of the house and im going use this as leverage to have you describe to me to my approval what you are going to do and how you are going to proceed to the trial before i send you the impeachment itself. i think this is an extraordinary move. i think its...

President wanted to be vindicated, acquitted. that may be the only leverage she has. ive been on the phone today with some of the presidents advisors and theyve been telling me they are kind of laughing at this whole idea that she thinks she has something over the president. she was pushing on the white house has been saying theres no due process in the house. we want a trial in the senate where we get to process and she wants to sort of change the rules and say im going to hold back. maybe well...

Say great, if you want to send it over to us will deal with it then. this is a stronger move by nancy pelosi but she doesnt have any leverage in the situation because the longer she holds it, the weaker case looks, and the more partisan and political she appears because frankly, she is. >> shannon: maybe shell sneak it into his christmas stocking! maybe shell sneak it in the middle of the night. >> thats like getting coal. >> i like that. >> shannon: juan and karl, thank you to the both of you. ...