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June 12, 2018
The nuclear results, but my sense is that maybe a lot of this, through the good work of secretary of state pompeo, i got to hand it to him, maybe a lot of these things have been precooked already in the meetings theyve had at the dmz, theechnical meetings that have taken place. >> governor one more question, without nuclear weapons we both know none of this happens so what is the incentive to denuclearize? >> i think kim jong-un is going to want to keep some if he wants to stay in power. i think...
June 12, 2018
Particularly sanctions trying to get to pressure north korea through sanctions an getting china do more on the sanctio front. but also its really north korea. they achieved certain level in their nuclear missile program and kim jong-un also felt that this was a right time to sit down with president trump because he thought this was a maximum leverage point for north korea as well. so maximum pressure in part, but its not insult. >> yeah. whats interesting, too, josh, and elise you heard the man ...
June 12, 2018
Shouldnt be sanctions while negotiations are you should way d the south koreans are talking about restoring some form of trade so with all of those players appear to be moving toward eroding sanctions. how can you keep the sanctions regime in place. what leverage do you have on these countries? >> i think we have a lot. i think we have tremendous leverage. i believe that china despite my relationship with president xi, a man i have great respect fnd and like a lot. were having tough talks on tra...
June 12, 2018
That the united states should sit down, that the united states president should not sit down with two-bit dictators. i think theres some validity to that school of thought, with the nuclear weapons.tato u know, countries like iran and cuba and other two-bit regimes dont have nuclear weapons yet. they cant threat the united states in that way. >> so jeffrey, hearing that, does that just encourage a place like iran or cuba to work to develop their own nuclear weapons, so that they can be taken mor...
June 11, 2018
States. so the north koreans are going into this determined to make in meeting work, but also, the going into this as very shrewd negotiators who know that they have leverage in the form of their nuclear nal. and theyre not going to unilaterally disarm in a matter of months without feeling they have gotten a number of things in the united states. the number one priority for them is not economic incentive, frankly, its security guarantees. they need to know that their government will be safe, tha...
June 11, 2018
North korea theyre doing it. the question for the north koreans is does kim jong-un -- im sorry, does donald trump have that ability to implement whatever agreement is made because the problem with the north koreans in the past is that when a new u.s. administration takes over, whether it is four or eight years depending on the terms, there could be a complete reversal. we saw that from the clinton administration to the second bush administration where presi ready to make a visit to north korea ...
June 11, 2018
Anything is possible, but it seems more likely that kim is going to use both countries as leverage to play beijing and washington off each other, which is sort of typical north korea behavior, right? >> thats exactly the case here. in the past, he depended on the -- the regime depended on the soviet union, then russia. now of course there is the opportunity to work something out with the united states. they want to keep china a little off balance because china is so big and so present that they ...
June 11, 2018
The minimum. >> there needs to be a vague commitment to give up nuclear weapons or ballistic missiles an verification and dismantlement of the sfr-- for the infrastruce and accountingor the japanese abductees. i dont think well get that but nonetheless -- the united states has a lot of leverage to bring to bear on north korea. and we may have to actually work uphill because right now kim is on this role. hes sort of building the links with countries in the region and that is undercutting our abi...
June 11, 2018
Welcome back. how did kim jong-un spend the night before what could be the most important day of his life? out on the town. the north korean leader taking a stroll through the streets of singapore late in the evening, surrounded by bodyguards. the international media clearly not a lighting director. here he is posing for a selfie with singapores foreign minister. nic robertson joins us from seoul. nic, clearly kim jong-un gits t -- gets the imagery of a summit. so little is known about him, can ...
June 11, 2018
Whereabouts because of social media and the internet? they try to clamp down that its harder to keep information like that away from everybody. the second question, do you feel like the peace deal should be held back because its leverage for the president of the united states if kim jong-un doesnt want to go the full -- the complete verifiable, irrevocable denuclearization? >> dana, to your first point, yes. thats what i thought, too. from our times in north korea, were learning that more and mo...