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October 20, 2021
A lot of plot twists in that one. >> it was actually british intelligence, not the cia. although i do remember felix giving cia money. >> i think youre right. both intelligence services were funding it. what do we call a fact check a fiction? thats kind of a paradox. its interesting to look at the tells which was your point about manchin is, okay, what is this, and why does he want to do it this way. in other words, privately reminding the democrats he has leverage may work for him. if he public...
October 20, 2021
That prior to publication. he knows its not a rumor. this underscores the leverage any senator can have if youre willing to buck your party, if you need all 50. manchin is in a way special, because if he talks about leaving in a state where trump won by 30 points during a year when he lost, well, its a more credible threat. hes also going out of his way to call it bs. so what life does this shed on the quandary facing democrats? why is joe manchin swearing in public? what will biden do about thi...
October 20, 2021
Its your body and i stood up for these people because i have leverage in the power to do it, and i have a voice and i will not forfeit the opportunity and let them sit there and get their asses kicked. im sorry, these people have to sit down and explain to their kids why they are out of a job but because they have natural immunity and some companies seems to play dr. fauci and cant get his head out of his own ass and get his story straight! its time we stood up. dont be afraid. folks, we come on...
October 19, 2021
Subpoena. tell us what happens now and what happens next. >> reporter: so tonight, 7:30, anybody can watch this, it will be live streamed, the committee will vote on this criminal contempt referral. then it goes to the house for a vote then to the department of justice. the chances that the most extreme punishment will be levied against bannon are slim. if things get jammed up in appeal, the time line begins to be extended. but what the committee is looking for here is leverage. they are trying ...
October 19, 2021
To corrupt and exploit your viewers, lead them down the path. i just found it to be disgusting. i cannot believe it happened. every day im more surprised when that happens and you know exactly what im talking about. >> i knew that as soon as there was an opportunity, people would take the fact that -- >> two seconds after he died? >> absolutely. that he died -- because what do you value? if you only value advantage and not to quote general powell, whether or not youre making things better, then ...
October 19, 2021
Where it will very likely pass and then it goes on to the department of justice and they have the final say of what they are going to do here, anna, but what they are trying to do because the likelihood that bannon sees the inside of a jail cell is slim, they are trying to get as much leverage to compel his testimony that they feel is critical to figure out how this all happened. >> appreciate that. lets bring in elie honig from the southern district of new york. first, the bannon vote and congr...
October 19, 2021
Here. there is always a chance that the department of justice could decline to move forward on this criminal contempt charge. what theyre looking for here, jim and erica, is leverage. they know the chances that steve bannon actually is put in handcuffs, actually ends up serving any jail time is remote. theyre trying to throw the book at him in an effort to get him to testify. there is back and forth over the last several weeks, bannon outright just refusing to comply with this subpoena, meanwhil...
October 19, 2021
Accommodation became a straight stone wall. thats how theyre in this pretty pass. thats what could cause them to say well change things up. which do they want? they want him to testify. but they dont have leverage. we saw the other possible maneuver, a civil suit, not succeed during the impeachments because, again, there is just a disconnect between how much time you need to enforce in the courts and how much time the congress has to investigate. we have got the same disconnect here, even if the...
October 19, 2021
Themselves and throw steve bannon in the jail under the capitol? >> we should pass legislation that would put in place inherent contempt. im an original sponsor of it. thats one way to do this. without the senate, you know, on board to also assist us in giving us that leverage, we should encourage merrick garland to treat donald trump no better but no worse than any other person who would be evaluated by the department of justice. hell testify on thursday to the judiciary committee and thats one...
October 19, 2021
Certainly with either criminal or civil, hes still going to try and run the clock. but its a lot harder to run the clock when youre sitting in prison. >> right. and the clock and leverage goes the other way. michelle, nick is reminding stuff of what weve been covering. theres more than one type of contempt. some people have actually been jailed under it, although the congressional version of that happens a little less often than others, than the prosecutorial. nick is absolutely right that this ...