who aren t doing as well as me? and it woke his eyes up to the factl not that he wanted the government to give him necessarily more money, but what about those people - on universal credit who need more? so i think everyone is feeling it. what we have suggested. this is a whole load of differentl things that have come together. i think the government tries to avoid saying the b word, | brexit is part of it, but we have to say undoubtedly the war in ukraine, the rise in prices, inflation - is hitting all countries. we are growing slower- than others but, nevertheless, we have to admit that this is a time the government needs to step in, l and what we are suggesting is a cut to vat, because actually the treasury is taking in more money. - inflation means that they are taking in more money every single day. i i want to ask you a question about the idea of parties working together, possibly secretly, or publicly, because, following those recent by election results, there has been some
really, really fed up. the possibility of a lib lab pact perhaps bring back the idea that finally, this dog s breakfast of a british constitution and an electoral system might get some serious attention. because if you look across the elections we have just had, it s only in england that the first past the post system operates. in local. ..in local elections or indeed. not in westminster elections, perhaps, is how i should put it. right. but every level of government except westminster, outside of england, people use a one kind of proportional system or other. when scots are sending mps to westminster, it s first past the post. when they are sending them to the scottish parliament, it s proportional representation. and the same with councillors. so, everywhere except england, that is true. and the result of this is that, since 1922, we have had two governments in this country elected with a majority of the popular vote, one in 1931 and one in 1935. laughter.
but part of that story was also how well the lib dems did and the combination of that absolutely devastated decimated is a better word the conservatives. yes, so, i mean, there is clearly a possibility of a lib lab pact. the liberals are certainly not going to ally with the tories, so the tories have nowhere to go. liberal and the labour are both saying that they are not going to enter into a formal pact but, of course, that-s a possibility and it s probably the only way that the numbers would stack up. and the south west i mean, it s interesting. the south west went largely blue at the last election, it was a liberal democrat stronghold, it does seem to be coming back, we have to see what happens right across the board but, clearly you are right. there is a lack of confidence in this government but i think what we have seen today is that we are not going to see the tories themselves moving to oust boris johnson. i think there is a more profound lack of confidence in the briti
certainly not going to ally with the tories, so the tories have nowhere to go. liberal and labour are both saying that they are not going to enter into a formal pact, but of course that s a possibility and it s probably the only way that the numbers would stack up. and the south west, i mean, it s interesting, the south west went largely blue at the last election, it was a liberal democrat stronghold, it does seem to be coming back, we have to see what happens right across the board, but clearly you are right. there is a lack of confidence in this government. but i think what we have seen today is that we are not going to see the tories themselves moving to oust borisjohnson. i think there is a more profound lack of confidence in the british constitution and democracy. i think people are really, really fed up. the possibility of a lib lab pact perhaps bring back the idea that finally this
really, really fed up. the possibility of a lib lab pact perhaps bring back the idea that finally this dog s breakfast of the british constitution and an electoral system might get some serious attention. because if you look across the elections we have just had, it s only in england that the first past the post system operates. in local. in local elections or indeed. not in westminster elections, perhaps, is how i should put it. but every level of government except westminster, outside of england, people use a one kind of proportional system or other. when scots are sending mps to westminster, it s first past the post, when they are sending them to the scottish parliament, it s proportional representation. and the same with councillors. so everywhere except england, that is true. and the result of this is that, since 1922, we have had two governments in this country elected with a majority of the popular vote. one in 1931 and one in 1935. laughter.