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He wants a public punching bag. >> i know we get to the fact where we say everything he says is mularkey, but hes got his facts wrong. brennan was gone from government before a special counsel was named. >> that doesnt matter to them. >> facts doesnt matter. >> we shouldnt be -- i hear your point that were blinded by the stupidity. were blinded by the stupidity of rudy giuliani. >> they want to find a way to have a face with someone who will go on tv the next night andy gauge back on mueller. >>...

Saying was an effort to lay this at his feet. he has things locked in his safe, he wasnt turning things over. ken, jump in if i get this wrong. something to the effect the president didnt do anything wrong, were going to turn everything over. if don mcgahn felt like he was being set up he had his back against the wall. >> there was friction between ty cobb and don mcgahn. their relationship started off on a rocky footing. they disagreed on basic questions as to how the legal matters related to t...

Candid conversation for 30 hours. >> i ask you this question. "the new york times" reported that last summer the president of the united states asked don mcgahn to go fire bob mueller. thats been reported, right? the likelyest question in the world, the conversation hes had with bob mueller, is that the only time the president asked you to fire bob mueller? there is no one who has a sense of donald trump who hasnt watched the arc of this, he has grown more agitate ed about robert mueller. if he ...

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It put don mcgahn in an impossible situation. once you waive that privilege, turnover all the documents, don mcgahn has no choice then but to go in and answer everything, every question they can ask him. and this is not in the presidents interest. it wasnt in the presidents interest. if he had gotten good legal advice at the time, he would have done something a little less, im confident its bad legal advice, bad lawyering, and this is the result of it. >> so, chris christie obviously on the save...