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He said the gun was cold. that means you dont have to worry about it. when he gave it to alec baldwin. why? does it have anything to do with why he was fired by another film production in 2019 over another gun incident that injured another crew member? and of course the armorer. why do i put it it in quotes? because i think thats a title thats earned, not just a name on a production sheet. hannah gutierrez is 24 years old. shes only done this twice. this was her second time. she was in charge of...

When he gave it to alec baldwin. why? does it have anything to do with why he was fired by another film production in 2019 over another gun incident that injured another crew member? and of course the armorer. why do i put it in quotes? because i think thats a title thats earned, not just a name on a production sheet. hannah gutierrez is 24 years old. shes only done this twice. this was her second time. she was in charge of this gun. she even expressed doubts about her capabilities specifically ...

But doing it, it went really smoothly. dad has taught me everything, but a lot of things, you know, i kind of caught on by myself -- >> observation? >> yeah, just observation, watching him do things or just knowing how the firearms work. i think loading blanks was the scariest thing to me because i was like, oh, i dont know anything about it. z >> the last part is especially haunting on two bases, right? how can loading blanks be scary, and how do you hire someone who doesnt know what theyre doi...

Woman and killed her is a bullet. do you remember bill davis, licensed weapons specialist, has been a firearms trainer for film and television for many years. its good to have you back. >> thank you for having me, chris. >> lets just deal -- last thing first. were waiting on the forensics, but what else could have come out of this gun and blown a big hole in somebody and killed them and then hit somebody else except some type of ammunition? >> well, thats it right there in a nutshell. it had to ...

>> lets deal with the last thing first. were waiting on the forensics. what else could have come out of this gun and blown a big hole in somebody and killed them and hit somebody else? except some type of ammunition? >> thats it right there in a nutshell. it had to be a live round with a led projectile, in order to penetrate one body and partially penetrate another. you cant do that with a plblan. >> right. you heard that the armorer said one of the scariest things in doing the job the first tim...

Said she recently worked as head armorer for the first time. >> i think loading blanks was like the scariest thing to me because i was like, oh, i dont know anything about it. >> reporter: discussing r previous experience on a podcast. >> i was really nervous about it at first, and i almost didnt take the job because i wasnt sure if i was ready. >> reporter: two people who worked closely with the assistant director, dave halls, tell cnn he was the subject of complaints over safety and his behavi...

>> 24-year-old gutierrez was the armorer on rust but said she worked as head armorer on another film for the first time. >> by all means im still learning. i think loading blanks was like the scariest thing to me. i dont know anything about it. >> discussing her previous experience on a podcast. >> i was really nervous about it at first, and i almost didnt take the job because i wasnt sure if i was ready. >> two people who worked closely with the assistant director dave halls tell cnn he was the...

Why wasnt it a rubber thing? tonight, were learning more about what is known at this point, those two crew members. she has doubts and expressed them openly on a podcast last month, talking about the movie she worked on before this one. listen to hanna gutierrez. >> i was nervous about it at first. i almost didnt take the job because i wasnt sure if i was ready. but doing it, it went really smoothly. that has taught me everything. but a lot of things, i kind of just caught on by myself. >> obser...

Misfires of the same prop gun baldwin used led several crew members to walk off the set hours before the accident. the films production company says it was not made aware of any official complaints. margaret gall is a prop maker who says halls did not maintain a safe working environment on a previous project they worked on together. >> he did not have any care whatsoever to those conditions in any of our experiences, and especially not in my experiences. >> reporter: 24-year-old hannah gutierrez...

>> reporter: recently, said she worked as head armor on a another film for the first time. >> like, by all means, i am still learning. i think loading blanks is, like, the scariest thing to me because i was like, oh, i dont know anything about it. >> reporter: discussing her previous experience on a podcast. >> i was really nervous about it, at first. and i almost didnt take the job because i wasnt sure if i was ready. >> reporter: two people who worked closely with the assistant director, dave ...