impeachment question and there s a real divide about the political stratsagy and what the presidential candidate is going to take as a message to the american people. no one deeper into this issue than chairman schiff. he was on our broadcast this morning on new day have a listen to what he said. i want to get your reaction. 2020 is unquestionably the only way in which he gets removed from office. we can never lose sight of that. i have tried to put the political question out of my head. that is does an impeachment help us in o2020 or hurt us. but we do need to be realistic and that is the only way he s leaving office at least at this point is by being voted out. some pretty powerful voices saying, listen, you ve got to wait until 2020, forget impeachment. nancy pelosi, adam schiff there. who wins out? i think they do. i think there was a logic error in assuming mueller would