his lawyers. when you are somebody like trump who has a fragile ego, who is a misogynist, who is a racist, in my view, and who also has this constant need to talk, there's a term for that, logoria. that's a real problem. it's gonna be an issue for his lawyers to try to keep him quiet even in the courtroom. but what a black woman judge is gonna be there telling him when he can talk and how to behave. so this is going to be a very interesting, interesting trial. >> that is the understatement. judge cordell, thank you very much for time tonight. we >> thank you. >> i wanna bring in elie honig, of former federal prosecutor, david kelly, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. i want to bring back some of the judge made, but it's not