it s a very interesting strategy here to go not surprising. trump likes to go to the supreme court. he is trying to take advantage of the shadow document, where emergency motions are filed. it s not the normal petition for the court to accept a case and have full briefing over the course of months and argument. it s an emergency motion which often times results in a very short order without a lot of reasoning behind it by the supreme court. he has got that going on. what s really interesting is the timing on that is really going to coincide exactly with the new timing on the expedited appeal in the 11th circuit. what trump is trying to do is get the supreme court to actually vacate or erase, nullify the stay that the 11th circuit issued against judge cannon s order. that meant that judge cannon s order was not valid with respect to the classified documents that
to elect someone who doesn t deny elections, and even more importantly she s raising the issue of, look, it is not just the election that you re worried about, if you say i want somebody in office who doesn t accept election results, be careful because it is going to happen in a way next time that you don t like. i think she could influence that group of people in the middle. this is the sad truth. de-radicalization may be out of our reach. but electoral influence in liz cheney s reach. and what i liked about this interview is the humility she showed about spending a lot of time with democrats and democrats spending a lot of time with her. and that for both sides, it is new. she didn t say uneasy for everyone. but there may be something in her message to this group of voters frank is talking about that may keep some of the people out of office. i believe so.
the government was able to use them in its criminal investigation and did not have to provide those to the special master. the government though, remember, had killappealed the entire rul. that s what the 11th circuit has expedited appeal of the merits of that entire ruling at the same time that trump is up in the supreme court trying to quash what the 11th circuit has done. there s a lot going on here. there s a lot to unpack. the timing could be such that the 11th circuit rules on the merits of the special master before and the delay of other things before the special master even finishes his work. director brennan, is it your sense that the national security imperative of getting into the classified documents is paralyzed by all of this?
i m reminded that what we are talking about is an inside threat. an ex-american commander in chief preventing an assessment of u.s. national security. how do we sort of future-proof the presidency from someone like donald trump? i think that will be the subject of probably a lot of legislative hearings and a lot of legal analysis once we get through this. are there other things to be done legislatively to tighten things up with respect to this? i will say though that as john brennan said, nothing like this happened before. it s really pretty incredible and mind boggling that this would be happening at this point in time. a president essentially claiming classified records could be personal records and that the government shouldn t be able to use them in its investigation. right now, we keep talking about trump s thwarting it. but right now the 11th circuit s stay is in effect, which means
clear that the security practices in the white house were quite lax during the trump administration. and so the accounting, the record keeping and other types of things and so i think the government doesn t know quite frankly what documents might still be missing because the usual records that they might have kept would have given them insight into that. but given that didn t happen on the trump white house, i think they re just hoping that they have the bulk of them, all of them or whatever. but who knows what else might be out there, which i think is quite unnerving for national security professionals. there is one person who knows a whole lot of trump lawyers and obstruction investigations. we ll ask about that on the other side of a break. don t go anywhere. go anywhere.