Rose welcome to the program. Tonight we take a look at what the Trump Administration did in syria and compare it with what the Obama Administration did when it decided to take a deal and not engage in an airstrike. Joining me, Bret Stephens of the wall street journal and tony blinken, former deputy, National Security advisor and deputy secretary of state. Any of us who had any responsibility for our Foreign Policy during this period will have to live with the fact that we didnt end the Syrian Civil War, and well have to live with the fact that, as you rightly said, hundreds of thousands of syrians are dead. Yes, that is on our watch. Its also on the watch of the syrians. Its on the watch of every single neighbor of sir. I cant its on the watch of iran and russia. There is plenty of blame to go around and, as the leading country in the world, we should take our share of it. But it wasnt for want of trying to do the right thing, making the best judgments we could. Maybe they were wrong,
Rose welcome to the program. Tonight we take a look at what the Trump Administration did in syria and compare it with what the Obama Administration did when it decided to take a deal and not engage in an airstrike. Joining me, Bret Stephens of the wall street journal and tony blinken, former deputy, National Security advisor and deputy secretary of state. Any of us who had any responsibility for our Foreign Policy during this period will have to live with the fact that we didnt end the Syrian Civil War, and well have to live with the fact that, as you rightly said, hundreds of thousands of syrians are dead. Yes, that is on our watch. Its also on the watch of the syrians. Its on the watch of every single neighbor of sir. I cant its on the watch of iran and russia. There is plenty of blame to go around and, as the leading country in the world, we should take our share of it. But it wasnt for want of trying to do the right thing, making the best judgments we could. Maybe they were wrong,
To do the right thing, making the best judgments we could. Maybe they were wrong, history will judge. But where i disagree just to come back to the start of this is question us for our judgments, absolutely, lets have that argument, but talking about menacity, youre looking in the wrong place. Tina brown, create of women in the world. For years and years, we keep hearing about the same old same old. There have been womens meetings forever about pay, about Sexual Harassment, about, you know, protecting womens reproductive rights but now finally people are thinking, wait a minute, this is really getting old. Its not changing. All the massive breakthroughs have happened but look at whats happening at fox news, the Sexual Harassment is rampant. At uber, lets took whats happening at google when you find the women are paid less than the men. There are so many things that you kind of wonder what is it going to take to change . Rose we conclude with Philip Gorski, his book is american covenant
Certain areas, if you believe that was the right and to recommend to the president. We have heard from many officials attempting to walk that back. You were a commander saying honestly and sincerely what you would do, you would recommend what was necessary if you thought it was necessary to accomplish the mission. I wonder if you stand by that, if you believe it is necessary you will go to the president say, mr. Obama, i need Ground Troops in certain roles to succeed here . If youre asking me if i would provide my best military advice at all times, the answer is absolutely. If youre suggesting that i might at some point recommend that we need a large ground force to counter isil, the answer to that is also absolutely. It does not have to be americans. Ideally, for the kinds of issues we are confronting there, the ideal for some of the only truly effective force that we would be able to reject isil from within its own population, is a force comprised of iraqis and kurds and moderate syr
Update, as i mentioned previously, of the 20 or so the brigades, we are beginning to do two things good working with the Iraqi Military leaders to ensure that what occurs on the ground is their campaign, not our campaign. We wanted to be there campaign. Our campaign where we dragged them along for legitimacy. I can assure you that some of the activities all of the activities in and around baghdad have been iraq military leaders establishing priorities and objectives enabled by us. We are making progress. We have to have a larger, longer campaign that actually recaptures lost territory. What risks . By the women, the men and women in uniform understand how to manage risks. They have been trained and equipped for the last 12 years. Zero, never have risks at but i can assure you that these young men and women will mitigate and reduce it to the greatest extent possible. Believelieve do you you have avoided civilian or casualties . Do you have any reason to believe the reports that Senior L