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Handle. they also see them as a symbol of their second amendment rights. its opponents question whether weapons so lethal should even be sold. we sent our gary tuchman to get a close-up look at the power of the ar-15, and heres what he discovered. >> reporter: this is what an ar-15 sounds like. [ sound of gunfire ] general mark hertling served in the u.s. army for 37 years, so he knows what the ar-15, which used to be a weapon of war, can do. and he has strong feelings about the semiautomatic, a...

Of their second amendment rights. its opponents question whether weapons so lethal should be sold. we sent our gary tuchman to get a close-up look at the power of the ar-15, and this is what he discovered. >> reporter: this is what an ar-15 sounds like. general mark hertling served in the u.s. army for 37 years, so he knows what the ar-15, which used to be a weapon of war, can do. and he has strong feelings about the semiconductor assault-style rifle, which is the precursor to a weapon currently...

Defense of others. willing to give my life. and if i have to give my political life to save others, that is nothing compared to that. >> so what are you doing right? are you writing legislation. >> so im working on one of the things that ive been working on even before this had gone on was working on a bill for behavioral detection for the people that have the most overlap for anybody buying a firearm. that is the salesperson. giving them access to behavaroral detection training and i penned thi...

>> look, when i was on the battlefield and i saw an opportunity to save a life, i didnt have a conversation about it. i acted. its common sense, and thats what needs to happen here. >> so youre saying banning ar-15 weapons is a chance to save a life? >> i believe that. thats why i came out and said this. you know, i looked at the platform i carried. an m-4, very similar to an ar-15. i was carrying that weapon in the most dangerous country on earth for one reason. it was the best weapon they gave...

Platform i carried. an m-4, very similar to an ar-15. i was carrying that weapon in the most dangerous country on earth for one reason. it was the best weapon they gave me to go out there to make sure i could eliminate our enemies. >> your colleagues asked the question, though, why take this out of responsible gun owners hands? way take this from the well-trained adept gun users who obey the law and want to use an ar-15 for target practice? >> i love the well-trained responsible gun owner. i am ...

The shooter in parkland had. weapons of choice for mass shooters. at the bottom is an ak-47. whi whats the difference between those two? >> the ar-15 and the ak-47 -- the ak-47 is the old soviet built system. the ar-15 doesnt have a fully auto on it. so if you use the m-16 situation in the military, three round burst but we dont qualify with that. ak-47 built for warfare has auto capability. so the point is that the automatic capability on weapon systems is limited because its not accurate. just...

Purchased, the effective rate of fire for an m-4, or any of the automatic weapons, because they were turned into automatic weapons is 750 to 900 rounds per minute. theres no possible need for a civilian to be able to do that. what that does is allow you to put down suppressive fire, which is a military tool. even police in law enforcement dont use it. for a civilian to be able to do this, and this individual being able to do this from the 32nd floor, aimed at a place where you are not looking at...

Whatever it was. it wasnt a real ak 47.e another kid carrying what looks like m-4. i didnt get a good look at it to tell if you its authentic or not. i saw another kid with -- in fact, if you look at my twitter page, i posted the pictures of the kids with the handgun in his belt in the back. and some kid with some weird looking long gun, a bolt action type rifle. i cant telling if thats real or not. brian. >> brian: we will follow you throughout the day as you march with this group and as night ...

>> because the likelihood that he had accessibility to fully automatic m-16, m-4, the military rifle, fully automatic. if he had anything that looked like it, probably an ar-15. who knows. the reports will be inaccurate in the initial telling. if you put that in a bag, a large bag a lacrosse bag or sports equipment bag, youll walk down the streets -- ive done it myself -- with absolute impunity. when you get to the hospital, open it up, take it out and you dont have the layer of scrutiny that yo...

Loose, an all-out manhunt begins. >> 911? >> theres a white van sitting here in the parking lot here at walmart. >> less than a mile from the shooting, the white van is spotted in a walmart parking lot. gunfire erupts between the suspects in the van and other police officers. then out of nowhere comes mike neal, an arkansas whild life officer who has his police scanner on. >> i pulled my m-4 up and i was driving towards the suspects. i was holding the steering wheel with my left hand and the m-4...