joining us now. i ve had an opportunity to interview christian a couple of times. you gravitate toward him and his story no doubt. i want to start with you ma sell. michelle. you re not the lawyer in this case, you re his wife. but you were the first to identify why christian might be a special case. will you share that with us? i was watching the news, your show one morning. it was a saturday morning, i saw his story and it really crushed me to see they were going through this. my husband is a veteran. and i actually preache reached . snuck in the bathroom, reached out and offered my husband s services without him knowing. your husband is retired and you said hey, we ll work probono for you. ron, you know, what did you think of that at first and what did you think of the case when you started to take up christian s case? well at first i said a presidential pardon?
obamacare and everything she was in support of in the past year. it is amazing that a u.s. senator doesn t president doesn t want to be seen with the party s president. we will see this all over l%e country. there are places in the country president obama is very popular. generally they have safe democrats already. there are places he is deeply unpopular and some represented by democrats right now. there will only one president at the end of the year. you can t change that. there is only so much positioning you can do to move yourself away. there will be a lot of folks who are a little hesitant to appear in public. maybe send ma sell. it is embarrassing when a senator says president who? panel, thank you. straight ahead, if you think healthcare.gov is frustrating you should hear of a website that has more problems. and now one lawmaker wants to take drastic measures. he is here to tell you his plan. and gear reand george talk on camera. and it is a new seinfield
democracy around the globe and you know we can t forget. people die on the capitol. this is not like there is two sides or both sides to this. people die on sacred ground on hallow ground and our capitol. republicans don t want to have an investigation, they don t want to even have a commission to look at this. i mean that s the starting stages you say setting up the big lie and the next coup. ma sell, michelle, there is a lot of information here already about this plot and we ll update as we go and learn about it that it was very much a political project to carry out join-in and further inspire a