joins us now, from phoenix. so, the arizona s senate president, karen fann, who you have interviewed, held this hearing on the so-called audit. and then, spoke to reporters. what happened? well, you know, anderson, from our very brief history together, arizona senate president karen fann isn t really somebody who likes to talk to the press but she actually did today and it came after this extremely bizarre senate hearing. that really just read like greatest hits of election conspiracies. and she doubled down on something she had told us, previously. that she believes this audit, this machine count that you re seeing behind me, that s going weeks long now. that it is the starting point for a national movement. here s what she said. this is the start of a whole-new industry, probably. much less, a process in the future, where voters are gonna start asking questions. that s it. if you cannot be respectful and
the arizona audit spokesman says the numbers they have, after a hand count, don t match with maricopa county s. sometimes, we counted more. you know, so it s but there s variations in the the count. and we are just trying to get to a number that s we believe is accurate. reporter: whatever they do find, it won t impact the 2020 election because arizona s vote was, already, certified. also, two previous audits by maricopa county didn t find any widespread fraud, but he maintains they could find gaps to continue the question the election. i m saying that s the possible. i m not saying it did. just a risk raises questions and that s why you have to do an audit to see what s been done. it was dangerous to begin with. the fact that it s dragging out continues to make it even more dangerous. reporter: jennifer is a former elections official and now expert in elections audits. she was brought in by arizona s secretary of state as an observer when the audit was on the floor of
part of an audit, but it should be the first not the last step. i showed her the warehouse from my laptop. it s hard the say. from day one, every day was concerning. every day we saw new things or heard new claims, and we thought, this is absurd. this is just so bizarre. it s so unprecedented. it s hard to know at this point. reporter: so, the machine count that was supposed to start today, two of the machines didn t show up, so all of this is going to have to wait until tomorrow. anderson? kyung lah, appreciate the reporting. just ahead, eric adams was at a white house event today on curbing gun violence what he says he and president biden discussed next.
she says a machine count is a part of an audit, but it should be the first not the last step. i showed her the warehouse from my laptop. it s hard the say. from day one, every day was concerning. every day we saw new things or heard new claims, and we thought, this is absurd. this is just so bizarre. it s so unprecedented. it s hard to know at this point. reporter: so, the machine count that was supposed to start today, two of the machines didn t show up, so all of this is going to have to wait until tomorrow. anderson? kyung lah, appreciate the reporting. just ahead, eric adams was at a white house event today on curbing gun violence what he says he and president biden discussed next. earn at the end of their first year automatically
expect, storage, ballots are all boxed up. there s nothing happening. it looks like a ring camera. well, suddenly, there was activity. this morning, if you look at this next video clip, suddenly, there were two counters, they re paper counters that were delivered. and we are now told it s not a hand count, it s a machine count. these machines are going to count each ballot. they re not going to look at what s on the ballot. they re just going to count the ballot. the arizona audit spokesman tells me is the reason they re doing this is to double and triple check what the contractor has done, cyber ninjas. he s calling it basically cleaning up. what does that mean? i don t know. i ve talked to a number of people. maricopa election officials and national officials, and they re scratching their heads saying they just don t know what s