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Behind—the—scenes stuff — and what worries me, - i think, is far too much. of this now is happening amongst our colleagues. it shouldnt be being leaked to the press. | yes. the diplomacy should really be in secret - and behind the scenes. and thats why, you know, one isnt sure where this is going. i but i myself remain slightly. sceptical that its going to go into a hot place. im with president zelensky in kyiv — i think everybody. should cool down a bit! chuckles. good. well, lets hope ...

To be clear and consistent — the message needs to be a clear one and consistent one. exactly. but you know, clarity — clarity is very hard and itsj behind—the—scenes stuff — and what worries me, i think, is far too much of this now. is happening amongst our colleagues. - it shouldnt be being leaked to the press. | yes. the diplomacy should really be in secret - and behind the scenes. and thats why, you know, one isnt sure where this is going. i but i myself remain slightly. sceptical t...

I mean, moscow is saying that, yes, there has been some movement. the foreign minister or foreign secretary said there were some rational elements in what the us had said to...or what the us had proposed. but of course, it doesnt change the fact that there are still more than 100,000 troops on the border of ukraine. the russians have also agreed, or there might be another meeting in the so—called normandy format, early february. so there is some, if you want to call it positive signs, maybe st...

The situation even more difficult is that, of course, there are also very different actions being taken by the us and by germany, for example, and the ukraine itself. i mean, the president has said actually, the situation is not as dangerous as some outside ukraine are saying. yes, i mean, thatsjust what i was going to quote. he was sort of saying to everyone, michael, "calm down". joe biden is still saying he expects military intervention by russia, he now thinks next month. has he kind of posi...

There are many issues which we dont know yet, including what putin is aiming to do, but what i would say is that while it is relatively straightforward for the west, in inverted commas, to come round with a sort of broad condemnation for what he has done so far, its much harder in practice. i mean, michaels mentioned london and the russian wealth in london, which is, you know, various governments have thought about extracting in various ways or making it harder for them, but never do in the end,...

Prepared to follow through on the sanctions if russia does attack. so ukraines a docemocracy. you have to listen to the politics of the democracy as well as doing whats smart. so there are often divergences in leaders opinions. it doesnt mean were not solidly behind ukraine. >> of course. and putin agreed to speak to both biden and the french president macron today. do you think that is a positive sign? i mean, should we be, you know, holding out hope that maybe diplomacy does still have a chanc...

Crisis ending, and now we see macron today in kyiv. >> yeah, jose, i think were seeing increasingly central to this drama is high-level context between putin and european intermediaries. interestingly, president biden that we are aware of has not spoken to putin since december. it is possible that the german chancellor has been going to moscow. other military leaders have been in touch with mr. putin. this is where a lot of the key action is happening right now. and vladimir putin did make some,...

The krem:cracking down on independent russian media. big warning from the state department. and joining me is cofounder of the think tank, silverado policy accelerator. thank you very much. were seeing macron talk aing at length this morning with putin and putin saying to macron, were going to take kyiv, change the government. youve been anticipating this. tell us how you think the russian operation that was going on the ground. >> well, putin is fully chited. he cannot pull back. now having suf...

Neighborhoods reduced to rubble and in kharkiv, the its driven many to shelter in metd row stations, including children and the elderly. >>m i in the subway and its terrible how many kids are there. we wont leave as independent normal country. >> every day more people arrive. this baptist seminary is housing dozens of families. >> our thanks to tom for that report. josh letterman joins us from brussels where secretary blinken is heading right now, for emergency meetings on the refugee crisis. we...

Weve been prepared for whatever course he chooses to take. >> this comes as the kremlin held a quote, serious phone call with president macron today. now, john and andrea kendall taylor, the former deputy national intelligence officer for russia and eurasia at the national intelligence counsel. john, i want to start with you. the kremlin says macron initiated this call. a call initiated by a french president, but it said putin gave an exhaustive explanation for his decision to carry out this, he...