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Joining me environmentalist tom stier, a fierce critic of donald trump especially his position on the environment. tom, thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. you heard attorney general prut, oklahoma attorney general prut commenting on climate change saying its not a hoax, allowing the human activity is contributing. but he did say the extent of climate change and how the world should respond to it is up for debate and dialogue. whats your reaction? >> well, my reaction, jake, is that this is...