so let s figure out why they re doing this. it s very interesting. good evening. let s discuss. i m going to start with you, renato. the defense team is saying that the case isn t about murder or drug cartels or a madoff style ponsi scheme. they re arguing for a lighter sentence in the d.c. case. what do you make of their argument here? you know, i have been representing clients now for years, and before that i spent a decade as a federal prosecutor. and when you re in the white collar criminal defense world, you know your clients in real trouble when your argument is, well, he didn t kill anybody. that s basically the lowest level argument when you re a criminal defense attorney. you got nothing. you don t have the facts. you don t have the law. you have no sympathy on your side. so you say, well, he didn t kill anybody. nobody died is the other one, right? yeah. there you go. pretty much. yeah. that s what this is.