anyone anticipated including russia, the consensus among experts. does it seem to be picking up steam in your view? it does, pamela. thank you for having me. it s an honor to be here to talk about one of the most grave humanitarian crises in the world happening right now. and i think what you said at the top, your analysis is right. the russian military, putin sort of miscalculated the ferocity of the ukrainian resistance that they would encounter, but i do think that those that reality on the ground is changing as russian armor and more and more russian forces are making incursion further and further south into ukraine. you see like an anaconda, an analog because the russian military is encircling various cities in ukraine, and they re slowly squeezing them off from supplies, from forced resistance, and like an anaconda, their goal is to cut off their oxygen supply, to cut