one is above the law. >> this is the sort of work we do here at the district attorney's office each and every day, ensuring that went a manhattanite hands over money, that it actually goes there, without any smoke screens. >> i led the team that held trump and his children accountable for their misconduct with the trump foundation. >> in manhattan and in new york, you will be held accountable for defrauding donors. >> i go where the facts go. >> today a jury found the facts, convicted the trump organization. as is customary during a trial like this, bragg largely demurred in public, let the prosecutors do the talking in court. tonight he's doing his first interview since the verdict right here on msnbc on "the beat." d.a. alvin bragg, thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me on, ari. >> what does this conviction mean? >> it's consequential in a number of ways. first, we've got the former president's namesake corporations being convicted --
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After Stanford, the attractive young couple soon had two young children as their professional lives brought them to Ithaca. Sarah was four years old when she arrived at their home on Dryden Road with her parents and her brother Robin. DG wanted to live near a bus line, and Bob could walk to the Education Department at Cornell.
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well, if it's cold out, then there is no climate change. if it's hot out, there is no climate change. but scientists like nan know the scientific data does not support that conclusion. and that the lying, the idea that climate change is a problem and that we should deal with it because of the mud slides and the wildfires and the increasingly strong storms that we're seeing, it's actually really dangerous. it's a national security threat for the president not to understand that underlying policy. >> here is my question. i do think trump knows what he is doing. he is a smart politician. but i don't believe a big city liver like him, and he is manhattanite, for a number years, he doesn't believe everybody walking around the streets of manhattan with a gun. he doesn't believe in that. so why does he say it? why does he say we're safer with everybody having a gun when he knows new york would be like dodge city if everybody had a gun. >> because he constantly plays to his base. he finds it easier. his safe retreat is to 35 to 37%
fitness just as a porn star emerges with a tale of a torrid affair. and as his first year winds down amid criticism, the tabloid hardened former manhattanite lets no slight go without response and establishes himself as the most consequential president of the more than era. after rolling back regulations and cutting taxes, he presides over the highestthan era. after rolling back regulations and cutting taxes, he presides over the highest close of the jones while unemployment follows, he repopulates the federal bench in his image, withdraws from the paris climate agreement and pulls out of transpacific partnership. isis loses what it regarded as its caliphate. and little rocket man, opens discussion with his neighbors for the first time in years. a dispute over immigration causes a government shutdown. america holdings its collective
kind of language. you know, trump is a strength president. we're used to kind of -- you know, he's a rhetorical sledgehammer and this was him in more emotional tones that are -- you know, we hear him in those kinds of terms far less often. but it's true. i think one of the most surprising things to me about the trump presidency is how faithful and closely he's hued to the promises he made to evangelicals who were tremendously important in getting him elected. it's one of the strangest pairings, i think, in modern politics we've ever seen. the new york federal liberal manhattanite who paid off a porn star for $130,000. but he has returned on their investment. >> you can ask ted cruz about how surprising it is. when you think back to the primaries when ted cruz had the map laid out and donald trump took the nomination away from him, essentially, in his view. >> the other quick thing i would
why is the nra so successful? why do they have so much money? the gop, as i go down the line name after name, they take loads of money from the nra. why is this our country? >> they take a lot of money from the nra, but that money primarily comes from grassroots donors. so while gun companies are putting a lot of money into the nra, the majority is from mom and pop donors who support gun rights. so you have an incredibly powerful voting constituency that their lobby is essentially the most effective grassroots lobby in the country. the nra was loyal early to donald trump. he, as a manhattanite, might have been for gun control. now he's completely in with the nra because he's seen what they can deliver. they gave him money and they deliver votes, too. >> all right. tolo, isn't this the perfect opportunity, i know i've said it before, for president trump to pivot? this seems like low-hanging fruit. these bump stocks, my gosh, to take a regular rifle and turn it
>> that was hillary clinton back in the day taking a jab at mayor bill de blasio of new york city for holding out on endorsing her last year. is she about to get her revenge? de blasio's soft poll numbers have led to talk of hillary clinton challenging his re-election bid and she would have dominion over a certain manhattanite, president-elect trump and will she run? neera tanden, confidant of hillary clinton and attendee at a recent bill de blasio fund-raiser, is it possible that hillary clinton will run for mayor of new york city? >> i think she will find out a way to help kids and families, what she's been focused on her whole life and a lot of issues affecting him and i don't expect her to ever run for any elected office again. >> ever. that's my sense, you know. i don't expect her to run for this and i don't expect her to run for other office. i think her job is to -- what she's thinking about right now is how to help serve kid and families as she have her whole life. >> let's leave that there. i want to go back to obamacare
of a meeting with them is definitely unusual. this is now par for the course. the whole setup was as unpredictable from the trump administration which seems to have its power struggles going on. reince priebus gave the president-elect erroneous information hoping that he would cancel on the meeting. but after all that, after all the drama, the president-elect came up to our 16th floor boardroom, shook everybody's hand, sat down and it was actually quite a civil discussion, i would say. >> you know what's interesting because we've had a lot of other news about donald trump sort of going after the media, he does seem to have a particular fixation with "the new york times." he'll either tweet that it's failing but then turn around and give interviews to the times. he seems to want the "times'" approval. he really needs the "times" to like him. >> it's his home town paper. since when donald trump was a young manhattanite on the make trying to build his reputation, he's always been fixated on
discussion, i would say. >> you know what's interesting because we've had a lot of other news about donald trump sort of going after the media, he does seem to have a particular fixation with "the new york times." failing but then turn around and give interviews to the times. he seems to want the "times'" approval. like him. since when donald trump was a young manhattanite on the make trying to build his reputation, he's always been fixated on getting covered in the times. there was a moment today at the meeting where he said, laying out goals for his presidency, he said to me it would be a great achievement if i could come back to this room two years from now and be told by this group that i did a good job. >> do you get the sense that donald trump understands what between the president and the press? tweets and that's all you can