donald trump and bernie sanders comes from a much different perspective. joe biden is saying i m establishment, tried and true. i was with barack obama. that s what voters want. they want a level comfort whereas bernie sanders is arguing there s a level anger within the democratic party, frustrated by two years of donald trump and that he has the set of issues that inspire that group of voters to really get motivated to be part of the electoral process, particularly voters of color, a very diverse subset of voters that he thinks will come together to beat donald trump. we don t know the answer to which of these strategies is better, but essentially at the core of this argument is the same exact thing, fred. i have what it takes to beat donald trump. it s just going to be a matter of which one of these candidates hat the ability to convince the democratic electorate of that fact. meantime, ryan, you know, sanders will get more face time in the south and will be joining a march in birm
good to see you, ali. he was a strategist. the whole idea of doing these things early in the day so the reels could get back to new york, he was a strategist with the media. if he hadn t been, might the civil war the civil rights movement have been as successful? i think it s fair to say it probably wouldn t have been. ali, you and i deal with it every day, media savvy organizations and individuals. they know our deadlines. they know our attraction to conflict, those sorts of things. but to go back and look at the martin luther king story, the civil rights story through that lens a bit different. you don t think about how savvy that movement was and understanding the power of images. right down, you look at the 1963 children s crusade, the march in birmingham, make sure the kids were dressed in their sunday best. the point was to show the rest of america what was happening in the segregated south in a way that didn t alienate white america.