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. a . a little bit under women and seniors and still under performing among women and trump is doing well among black, hispanic and young compared to previous campaigns and you are right, absolutely the movement is among independent and they have moved in recent polls roughly 9 points towards biden at 21% of independent in a survey shortly after the conviction said that they were the less likely to vet for donald trump as a result of the conviction. >> you know, john, in close elec...