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offensive. and there is a line directly between, i think, evel knievel and the celebrity he was able to achieve and former president trump. interesting, i don't know anything about motorcycles, but motorcycles play a big role in the book. after i wrote a first draft, i found this motorcycle expert, this writer mark guardnergardne helped me make it seem like i knew something about motorcycles because of the characters, need to know. after we were done with our business, he sent me a message, he sent an analogy comparing it to donald trump. there is something with the characters that kind of emerge. >> i was very impressed with your motorcycle knowledge in this book. in addition to the fictional characters you've got ike and lucy. and evel knievel, real life character. you also have characters shades of other president-day folks,

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character that my character lucy explores. this is a tabloid and subplot of who done it, it's where america has gone. she's put in situations as a writer, as a journalist, lucy, in writing about them and her editors are goosing them to sell papers. and, you know, there isn't that far distance between the $787.5 million settlement being paid by fox to dominion. it's part of the tabloidfication of the american media. >> some of it is black and white unclear how they're goosing the story to make things up but shades of gray there that holds a mirror up to the media industry writ large. jake, first of all, this is a book that has footnotes in it, so you will learn something. but it's also a really fun interesting read, if you love a good thriller.

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