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Even as maggie haberman was breaking the lead story about what president trump knew and when about the whistle explore report. we were getting transcripts of closed door impeachment testimony on the ukraine affair by a white house budget official. mark sandy told lawmakers that two officials at the office of management and budget had left jobs and both had concerns that military aid to ukraine was held up. back with jeffrey gergen appear jeffrey koob toobin a devastated its not a big deal says t...

Bidens. he says "bidens," okay? some of you want to imagine that that didnt happen. look at the transcript. he also tells him, talk to rudy, showing that he knows what rudy is doing. that same day, an official at the budget office, omb, another acronym in the alphabet soup that weve all had to learn about this, signed the first documents officially putting dod, department of defense money for ukraine on hold. that official is named mark sandy, and he spoke with impeachment investigators. why? al...

>> reporter: the house budget committee released a two-page summary document laying out a more explicit detailed timeline of the hold the office of management and budget put on the ukraine aid, specifically the idea that the official hold letter actually was released on july 25th. what else happened on july 25th? well, the phone call between presidents trump and zelensky. also on july 25th according to the testimony, public testimony of a pentagon official, at some time in the afternoon two diff...

And as far as the ukraine testimony in and of itself, i dont know that the democrats are in a position to get much more useful testimony on this because some of the key questions that are still on the table, exactly what prompted the president to reinstate the ukrainian military assistance, is probably -- probably only come from him himself. its not clear that theres a lot of other people who have a great deal of insight into what his thinking was. >> how many more puzzle pieces do you need to s...

Jim? >> so new transcripts as well from key witnesses here, including witnesses in the white house, the office of management and budget who took this delay so seriously that they resigned their positions. >> mark sandy in his testimony that was released yesterday was quite dramatic in the case that he was making because this was about why they were freezing the aid in the first place. in july he was approached. he was ordered to put a hold on this aid. there was a lot of confusion. they didnt kn...

Transcript. it was released for him. he was a career white house budget staffer. sandy said two staffers who left their jobs at omb expressed frustration over this money being withheld. omb denies that. its my understanding you know mark sandy. michael, can you tell me about him? >> sure. yeah. i mean, mark -- ive worked -- we didnt overlap at omb but he came right over and ive worked with mark. she a dedicated career official. one of the highest level career officials at omb. you have to unders...

Before they released the aid? >> its obviously why he did it. if the whistle-blower didnt file his report, the president of ukraine would have gone on television on your network at trumps request and announced the investigation of the bidens so he would get the military aid. he was scheduled to do it because he didnt know different. trump had it. he loved him according to sondland, would do anything for him. but trump found out about the whistle-blower, the fact that it was going to become publi...

So you know, this all sounds familiar. right? we remember how it went down for president trumps former personal attorney michael cohen. right? listen to this. >> do you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> no, no. >> then why -- why did michael cohen make that statement with the -- >> you have to ask michael cohen. michaels my, about attorney and youll have to ask michael cohen. >> do you know where he got the money? >> i dont know. no. >> so we hear him say, ask michael cohen. ...

Opening an investigation. just hearing about the whistle-blower wasnt enough to get him to release it. its when congress learned. >> thats when he released it, but they spent that time anticipating that this might happen. and creating this alternative reality so that when the hearings happen, they could say no, no, no. >> on the subject of knowing somethings wrong here, we also learned yesterday in the deposition from mark sandy that there were two omb employees who quit at least in part because...

The news and cove aring the story until the president says no quid pro quo to gordon sondland and we know what happened next. michael what do you think of all this? >> i think that the testimony that was released this week by the house judiciary committee is interesting and adds pieces to the overall impeachment inquiry. i dont think -- i do think its significant that mark sandy testified, an omb career official, testified about the mechanics how money was withheld. that the money to ukraine was...