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Drama. >> yeah. i mean, he founded the company back in 1976. he was dismissed in what was basically, you know, a board room coup in 1985, only to return to apple in 1997, but jobs is really the guy who is credited for reviving what was really a struggling computer-maker. hes considered a true visionary. i mean, think about it. on his watch he created the mac desktop computer, the ipod, iphone, mostecently the ipad. "fortune" even put him saying the decade, the past decade, the business basically...

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United states now as aa-plus with a negative outlook. the decision by standard and poors has launched criticism with not only did they make the wrong call, but that standard and poors basic math may have been wrong in calculating what they needed to calculate in order to decide on this downgrade. later in the show well be joined by jerad bernstein, former chief economic advisor to vice president biden, well get jerads help. well also be joined by some of the top economic reporters in the country...