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Infiltrate the trump operation. but he volunteered. he was an fbi informant. and if you look at what he did, he tried to insinuate himself with some members of the trump campaign. >> tucker: why are anchors telling us, reporters and journalists telling us there was no spying on the trump campaign? >> well, i think that, first of all, the informant part is just a fact. we need to know more about it. but it is a fact. >> tucker: the "new york times" reported it. i read it? >> absolutely. and so di...