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>> i won't sugar coat this, this is a disappointing day for us. >> democrats are declaring victory. >> today is a great day for our country. it's a victory. >> tonight, senator bernie sanders on how it fell apart after seven years of promising repeal. >> real change begins with immediately repealing and replacing the disaster known as obamacare. [ cheers and applause ] >> and where we go from here with michael moore. >> i think we have to let obamacare go its way for a while. and another escalation in the devin nunes debacle when "all in" starts right now. >> nobody knew health care could be so complicated. good evening from los angeles, i'm chris hayes. obamacare is alive and trumpcare is dead. and the republican party with control of the white house and majorities in both the senate and house of representatives is reeling tonight after failing to achieve what has been their single biggest goal for the past seven years and the number-one agenda item of donald trump's presidency. minutes before it was due for a vote today, house republicans, led by speaker paul ryan, pulled the bill that would have repealed and replaced the affordable care act after it became obvious they lacked the votes within their own caucus. despite a pressure campaign by the white house and an ultimatum directly from the president himself at least 34 gop members came out against the bill, according to nbc news's count. so after seven years and more than 60 republican house votes to repeal obamacare, speaker ryan called it the law of the land and acknowledged that governing is harder than it looks. >> moving from an opposition party to a governing party comes with growing pains and, well, we're feeling those growing pains today. we came really close today. but we came up short. i won't sugar coat this, this is a disappointing day for us. doing big things is hard. all of us, all of us, myself included, we will need time to reflect on how we got to this moment, what we could have done to do it better. >> the president, meanwhile, blamed the bill's failure on -- wait for it -- democrats who wouldn't join him in destroying obamacare. >> we had no democrat support. we had no votes from the democrats. they weren't going to give us a single vote so it's a very difficult thing to do. i've been saying for the last year and a half that the best thing we can do politically speaking is let obamacare explode. i think the losers are nancy pelosi and chuck schumer because now they own obamacare. they own it 100%. >> but obamacare is not actually exploding. the cbo said so. and speaking this afternoon, house minority leader nancy pelosi was not acting like someone who had just lost. >> the unity of our house democratic members was a very important message to the country that we are very proud of the affordable care act and the american people expressed their support for it. that message became very clear to our colleagues on the republican side of the aisle. today is a great day for our country. what happened on the floor is a victory for the american people. >> not long after the bill was pilled democratic congressman joe kennedy of massachusetts told me he was very happy with the outcome. >> the process worked. chris, this is what happens when you have hundreds and thousands and millions of americans who raise their voices and say don't do something stupid, don't vote on a bad bill. my office got thousands of calls over the course of the past couple days, doctors hated this bill, patients hated this bill and nurses hated this bill and seniors hated this bill and hospitals hated this bill. it was a bad piece of legislati legislation. i salute my republican colleagues for saying we're not going to vote on this because it's a bad bill. >> so that clearly played a role but it seems like the house freedom caucus was unmanageable. this was a situation where time after time after time john boehner before paul ryan tried to get the votes and couldn't deliver on their own majority. >> chris, obviously you're 100% correct. one would hope that republican leadership would take the lesson and say just as speaker boehner was forced to, recognize that if you can't get that majority you come back and work with democrats to pass a bill that is reflective of the broad needs of the country, democrats, republicans, rich, poor, black, white and everything else and the challenge was they shut democrats out of the process from the beginning and made a decision that they were going pass a hard partisan bill that touches almost every single american at some point in your life. you need your health care system. not only is a $3 trillion a year industry but health care is about, as we discussed before, about how we treat each other in our time of need. every single person out there at some point in their lives is dependent on the system so when you talk about making a drastic change to it without vetting it or discussing it, without people understanding what it will mean for them, you get people that are upset. they did. this is no way to run a rodeo and they learned that lesson. >> you've been very sober in this conversation, congressman, so i want you to answer this honestly if possible. see, i broke you up. are you and the caucus just f l feelifee feeling amped? are you feeling adrenaline of victory? >> undoubtedly at this point it feels pretty good. victory is never final and defeat is never final. as you pointed out, there are a lot of people that need their health care system to work better. even for those of us working pretty well you need it to work better and this's our commitment going forward. not saying who won this round but finding a way to make this system work. it touches off when everything is going well but when it's not you need it to be there for you. again, that's why the way they drafted this bill, republican leadership, it was a bad bill to begin with but try to find ways to strengthen the effective implementation of the law you'll take the politics out of health care. >> joe kennedy iii, pleasure. >> chris, thanks, pleasure. thank you. i'm joined on the phone by congressman leonard lance, republican from new jersey who was a no vote on the health care bill. congressman, are you happy they pulled the bill? how are you feeling? >> that was a decision by leadership, chris. i think moving forward we have to do a better job. i do think the exchanges are a difficulty and i hope we can work together in a bipartisan capacity on this issue because i do think major reforms are necessary. >> congressman, i want to -- i am curious in your reaction. this is a wild 24 hours. i have never -- i think going back to the first tarp vote is the last time i saw something like this unfold on the house floor. when you were told the bill was pulled, a bill you were going to vote no on, what did you feel? did you feel relief? were you happy? how did you feel? >> i was not happy. i think that this is a time where we have to be reflective and i think that that was the tenor of speaker ryan's comments. and i'm willing to reach across the aisle to work with democratic colleagues and also colleagues in the senate in a bicameral way because i think we have to reform the system and i'm concerned about the exchanges and about the fact in rural america, as you know, chris, in many places there's only one insurer in the market. >> right. so congressman, you had an interesting trajectory on this bill. you represent a district that went for hillary clinton, you were originally a yes on this bill, you've come on my show to talk about it and defend it and then you were a no on the bill. can you walk me through what changed your mind? >> certainly. in the commerce committee i voted to make sure there was no denial of coverage based on pre-existing conditions, that people could stay on their parents' policies, no lifetime cap and making sure the expde medicaid was inlace at least until 2020. i was not on ways and means that dealt with the tax portions and i don't think the refundable tax credit, chris, were generous enough and i don't think we found the funding for that. and then the cbo score came out and i read it and i think that that was very challenging and a sobering analysis by cbo. >> you've also said the pressure in your district. you got a lot of calls, you held town halls, to your great credit, unlike some of your colleagues. people showing up, constituents telling you how this would affect them, did that have an affect? >> i certainly tried to listen to all of my constituents. as you know, i did the two town halls, one with 1400 residents, another with 900 and we've had lots of telephone calls and e-mails on this topic and most of them were against this bill and certainly i tried to listen to constituents. you are accurate that hillary clinton carried the district by about 3500 votes. i was pleased with my reelection margin last year but chris in my judgment this year, 2017 should be a year of governance and let 2018 take care of itself. >> speaking of 2018, you are now in a very select class of legislators which are members of congress who voted for the ahca. there's not that many. just the republican members of the commerce committee and ways and means. you now have -- you own this bill as far as your opponent is concerned, i'm sure. do you feel like you were hung out to dry by your leadership and the white house that made you vote for this in committee without a cbo score? you've now got a bill that was so unpopular it couldn't get to a vote, and you voted for it. >> well, i voted for amendments in the commerce committee, as i have described. i do not vote for the amendments in the ways and means committee and the bill itself was crafted by the budget committee. the amendments in the commerce committee did as i had suggested, no denial of coverage, et cetera. but i do think that we should work together moving forward to try to improve the system and i think the system needs improvement. >> all right, congressman leonard lance, thank you, enjoy your week end in your district. >> thank you, you as well, chris, always a pleasure to be with you. i'm joined by congresswoman karen bass, democrat from california. have you ever -- you're smiling. have you ever seen anything like this? >> well, we did a few times before, right? over the debt ceiling, over the budget. there were several times. but i think this was just a real mess and i was actually surprised, frankly, that paul ryan miscalculated so much because he knew the challenges of the freedom caucus but i am so glad and i just want to take a second and give a shoutout to all the people in indivisible that went to town hall meetings, the resistance fighters, because this was an important lesson to understand that your activism, your participation counts and i hope they celebrate, rest for the weekend and be prepared to continue fighting on monday. >> i want to read you a remarkable quote by republican congressman tom rooney of florida. "i've been in this job eight years and i'm wracking my brain to think of one thing our party has done that's been something positive, that's been something other than stopping something else from happening. we need to start having victories as a party, if we can't, it's hard to justify why we should be back here." harsh? fair? >> well, i think it's accurate. i'm in my seventh year and when i first came here, chris, the motto was repeal and replace and i was waiting for a replacement for seven years. obviously they couldn't get to it but they were so obsessed with that rhetoric and i think they weren't planning on governing. i think they believed like we all did that they would be dealing with president clinton instead of president trump and i think they were caught off guard and left with o.k. now we're in charge, we have no excuse but we're getting ready to see this again over tax reform because if trump thought this was difficult wait until he comes to tax reform. and i think we need to be on our guard because another way for them to come at health care is by cutting some of the taxes that pay for the health care coverage so i think it was a huge victory. i'm very excited about it, on the other hand, i don't think we can let our guard down. there's other battles ahead. >> i'm having a hard time figuring out which of the two scenarios is correct. i can't tell if the republican leadership were essentially fooling their voters all this time when they were voting time after time to repeal obamacare, 60 times and they can't do it once when they have control, or whether they fooled themselves. if they essentially believed all of their own rhetoric. >> well, but see, i do think they used it politically because if they believed their own rhetoric then please tell me why i've been here for seven years and have never seen a replacement? you know i voted over 65 times against the repeal. you would have thought i would have voted 65 times for or against a replacement. when they had the opportunity to do a replacement they couldn't get it together so i think it was political. i think it was political rhetoric to gin up their base and it was really sad because it misled an awful lot of people. so some of the problems with obamacare is the fact that many states have not extended medicaid and so we do need to come back and maybe now, maybe now they will look at making improvements because no democrat ever said that this was perfect, that there wasn't room to improve. maybe they'll come back to the table but it was fascinating to listen to trump tie to blame this on democrats. i'm not sure if he forgot the math or he was once again lying. they did not need one democratic vote to pass this bill if they had gotten it together and they didn't. >> right. 44-seat majority, largest republican majority since 1928. congresswoman karen bass, thank you for being here tonight. >> thanks for having me on. still to come, according to president trump, democrats -- as the congresswoman just said -- are the real losers in the failed republican health care debacle. senator bernie sanders is here to respond. plus michael moore on today's victory for grass-roots organizing and where the resistance goes from here. he joins me after this two-minute break. d what? yeah, liberty mutual 24-hour roadside assistance helped him to fix his flat so he could get home safely. my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. don't worry - i know what a lug wrench is, dad. is this a lug wrench? maybe? you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. anyone ever have occasional y! constipation,diarrhea, gas or bloating? she does. she does. help defend against those digestive issues. take phillips' colon health probiotic caps daily with three types of good bacteria. 400 likes? wow! try phillips' colon health. immediately repealingnd replacing the disaster known as obamacare. [ cheers and applause ] >> today rhetoric met reality for president trump and the republican party as a whole, a culmination of seven year's worth of calls for repealing the affordable care act. joining me now, academy award winning documentary filmmaker and activist michael moore. michael, your reaction to what happened today. >> well, immediately the good news is that the millions of people who are beneficiaries of obamacare are not going to be thrown out on the curb tonight or tomorrow night or any time soon so that's great news. everybody should feel good about that. but this is not the time for the democrats to gloat or throw some kind of party. they're really good at throwing early parties like "yay, we won. wait a minute, we didn't?" this is the time we have to now double down because when -- please understand that trump is telling you the truth when he says that obamacare is going to explode or implode depending on which side of his brain he's listening to. it will do one of those things because they are going to actively make sure that that happens. they and the profit-making insurance companies are going to make sure it explodes. so that means the resistance -- >> this is a worrisome scenario, right? the death by sabotage because you now have tom price who is probably one of the most committed foes of obamacare who exists who's running hhs which has a lot of latitude and you've got this situation where -- and you can tell, it's almost -- i have to say, it's very bizarre and almost chilling to hear the president talk about how it's politically beneficial for him if the health care system explodes in the country he's representing. i guess that's your concern and how you mobilize to make sure that doesn't happen. >> here's how we mobilize. first of all, we need to really make sure, because this happened very fast, in the last 24 hours, trump and speaker ryan change the bill in the 11th hour to get more of the tea party republicans to vote for it. they made the bill meaner. in the last day here -- the vote that was going to be taken was taken on a bill that said that insurance companies are no longer required -- that means not just obamacare, that means everybody watching this -- all insurance companies were now -- there it is on the screen, not going to have to provide these services even for people who have health insurance. so no outpatient care, no emergency, no e.r. visits, don't get pregnant, we're not covering that, we don't have to by law anymore, they don't have to cover any of these ten things, they put this in the bill to sweeten it for the hateful tea party people and they still couldn't get enough republicans even by saying we'll cut out the e.r. visits, we'll cut out maternity and paid rheediatric how about that? no, no, we won't vote for it. so please understand that the republicans, and i'm talking to the people in michigan who voted for trump, especially those of you who voted for obama and then changed an voted for trump, these people are out to make your lives a living hell and they tried to do in the the last 4 hours in a way that hadn't been reported on much but look on what they were going to vote on today and they couldn't get enough republicans to vote for this hateful mean-spirited bill. so now the resistance has to step forward. we need to do two things, chris. number one we need to push for single payer insurance, medicare for all, the kind the canadians have, the kind that every other civilized democracy on the planet has. we have to push for this because we need to fix these parts of obamacare that did cost us votes in november. this has to be fixed. do not sit around and say, oh, we've got obamacare. democrats, you have to get this fixed. but the people who are watching, the people who are members of the resistance, and we're talkitalk talking tens of millions of people now, we have to shift part of our focus away from congress who we have been barraging for the last two months with phone calls, visits, letters. we have to go after the insurance companies because these private profit-making insurance companies are going to do everything in their power to do what trump said is going to happen. they're going to try to explode or implode obamacare. >> so here's a question about the political lesson because you and i spoke -- i think it was the day after the election and there was a great feeling of -- people were stunned i think in the broad center left people were upset and confused and angry and one of the things i kept thinking about was how quickly tables had tushed in just the last eight or ten years that i've been covering politics between 2004 and 2006 and then 2008 and dwen. what is the political lesson here that you are taking away from what happens in the last 24, 48 hours? >> a couple lessons, number one, everything that people did to have their voice heard had a huge impact. it made the republicans scared and mostly it made them confused and they couldn't find their tail as much as they were chasing it. that is because the majority of americans, that i'm part of, didn't vote for this man, didn't elect him and the majority is still out there. the majority did not want this. by the time of last night, chris, the last poll that showed that only 17% of the american public liked the republican health care plan, 17 -- they're down to 17% so huge, huge movement there. a lot of people, you saw this in west virginia when you went there with bernie. people are getting it. they're getting that they were lied to. they were held out -- a lot of promises were held out to them that aren't going to come through and they saw just how transparent the republicans and trump were with this bill. this was a tax cut bill for the rich not a health care bill. this was an attempt now to try and kill obamacare in actually more cruel ways because they're going to try to nip and tuck and cut at hhs. they're going do everything they can to stymie and get in the way of the good that obamacare does. that's why bernie and the other progressive leaders of this party who i believe now represent the majority of the party, have to get out there and push for the real fix. if we don't fix obamacare in the way it should be fixed, in the way i think president obama probably would agree it should be fixed, we are going to get hit really hard and the people we say we support, the people, the working poor, the people that are the working class of this country, they were going to suffer mightily, even though we stay we still have obamacare, they are going to raise those premiums. they are going to try and not cover things. >> that may be true in terms of staking a position, right? but the notion that -- first of all it seems to me there is going to be zero appetite on capitol hill among the republican leadership that's controlling the legislative schedule at this point to do anything having to do with health care in the near future having just put their hand on a stove and come away with burns so bad they're essentially in the e.r. you're talking about advocating a principle, because there's going to be a big fight on tax reform. it's hard for me to imagine that being a legislative reality. >> that's why we have to do what they did for seven years under -- throughout all of the obama -- both of his terms. they have to -- we have to, the democrats have to as they did 50 or 60 times, put forth their repeal obamacare bills, we have to start going in there right now with medicare for all, single payer and keep every time after time after time -- >> michael that was a disaster. >> then we have to get rid of the republicans next year. >> wait a second, michael. what they did was if that's the model, what they did was sold people a bill of goods, voted 60 times knowing it couldn't happen then could en't implement it. >> there's one significant difference between the two models. we know what we're doing and we mean it and we're kind of smart. we actually represent the majority of the country that doesn't believe the earth is 6,000 years old. so we the people who understand these things, we are the majority, we are going to go in there and start fighting for these things and, yes, we're going to lose, we're going to lose votes but when it comes our time -- and it will come our time -- trust me on this, it will come our time and we won't do what they did today. we will be ready with the right bill that americans are going to love. free health care paid for by the people who should be paying for it, the wealthy, the corporations, the people that can afford this who have been living high on the hog for these last couple of decades. it's time they're going to pay their fair share once we are back in power, we will be in power, we are the majority. we had a blip here, that's all this is. >> i think what i'm hearing and i'm curious to see what happens, i heard elizabeth warren talking about this today, if in the wake of this you end up seeing single payer as an emerging democratic party consensus on the path forward. >> and quickly also states can do this now. california, new york, blue states can push for their own statewide single payer medicare for all programs, show the rest of the country how this can be done. california and new york, you did it with roe v. wade three years before abortion was made legal. it was legal in new york and california. that's one of the reasons we got roe v. wade. do it with single payer health care. thank you, chris. >> gavin newsome. >> resistance, blue states. >> he's running on that. michael moore, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thanks, chris. still to come, congressman schiff on what he calls the dead-of-night excursions of his intelligence committee colleague devin nunes that threaten their investigation on trump/russia ties. more on this after this quick break. if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, you can embrace the chance of completely clear skin with taltz. 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made the bizarre choice to go to president trump earlier this week with word the intelligence community had collected information on people in the trump transition and chairman nunes would not deny to reporters that the source of that very information was the white house itself. >> reporter: did this come from the white house? did this information -- >> as you know, we have to keep our sources and methods here very, very quiet. >> reporter: you're denying any of this information came from the trump administration? >> yeah, i'm not going to -- look, on this -- at this committee we are not going to every reveal sources. >> earlier i spoke with congressman eric swalwell, a member of the house intelligence committee and i asked him if his committee was coming unglued. >> well, chris, for the past few months we've been going down this road together as republicans and democrats. we made progress on monday with an open hearing where the fbi director confirmed there was and is an investigation into the criminal and counterintelligence ties between donald trump and his team with russia but just earlier this week devin nunes, our chair, exited that road and now he has gone toward the white house and seems to be doing their bidding. what's concerning for us is he took evidence to them without coming to us. he went to the president whose campaign is under investigation and still refuses to show us the evidence so he needs to find an on-ramp back on to this investigation because we'll continue and go forward. >> respectfully, it seems like there's not an onramp back on after you've done that. >> maybe not for him. >> but even for the committee? my question to you is it becomes more -- the further we go down this path, and i want to get to chairman nunes in a second but as i watch this unfold myself it seems i'm not quite clear this committee that you have is the proper investigative body or is equipped, frankly, to undertake what is essentially a kind of law enforcement investigation if we're talking about crimes being committed. >> chris, i long believed that. that's why in december elijah cummings and i wrote a bill calling for an independent investigation. every democrat supports that as well as one republican, walter jones and so we always saw that as the most comprehensive way to understand what happened and how to make sure it never happens again but it's also an insurance policy against an investigation that our chairman has compromised. >> so in terms of your chairman, can you make sense of what he is doing? he seems to me in every public appearance -- i'm not sure how to describe itcharitably. that he's not calling the shots. that he's not driving the car. >> chris, what's so disappointing is we have worked so well with him in the past. we keep authorizing intelligence programs together and those were his best days. this past week has been among his worst so i don't know what to do next with him because it seems that he wants to still be a part of the trump transition team rather than to show the independence and collaboration we need to do on this committee so the american people understand that we're never going to let this happen again. >> were you notified in any way about cancelling the committee hearing with clapper and brennan and yates that was to be in an open hearing? were you notified? were democratic staff notified? >> he went to the press first. we knew they were trying to do what they could to get out of that hearing or maybe put in the a secret setting but without really having any details about it, he went out to the press and held another press conference so that's just concerning because this committee has always worked collaboratively. it's one of the most fulfilling parts about being on this committee is that we work in secret usually, we get the job done because we know when it comes to national security that's where it counts but the chairman it appears wants to be more loyal to the president than our dt duties on the committee >> there was a moment i have watch eed numerous times that i can't get over in which the chairman was asked directly if his source, as he refers to it, his source that there was some incidental collection associated with the trump campaign, his source for that was the white house itself. he would not deny that was the case. do you think it's possible that that is the case? that the white house is the source and this whole thing i l scheme? >> it's certainly possible and it's one of the only possibilities. from what we have been able to gather, he did not receive that information in our secured facility at the capitol so that leaves it just to the national security agency and the cia and from what we're hearing they didn't provide that to him so he either went to a non-secure location to receive this information or at the white house so we want to get to the bottom of that. we also want to know why did speaker ryan authorize this? we're supposed to be an independent branch of government looking at a president whose campaign is under investigation. why would he allow chairman nunes to go to the white house and perform this stunt? >> all right, congressman eric swalwell of california, thank you for your time. >> my pleasure. still to come, senator bernie sanders on this early deneat the trump administration and the republican failure to fulfill a year's long promise. plus, some shade from the obama white house in tonight's thing 1 thing 2 after this break. for lower back pain sufferers, the search for relief often leads... here... here... or here. today, there's another option. drug-free aleve direct therapy. a tens device with high intensity power that uses technology once only available in doctors' offices. its wireless remote lets you control the intensity, and helps you get back to things like this... this... or this. and back to being yourself. aleve direct therapy. find yours in the pain relief aisle. chooarmy versus army.ion. 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>> i think some of them may have felt that way. other people, certainly mitch mcconnell, has been pushing very very hard to repeal obamacare. but i think chris at the end of the day, i know media will focus on the winners and losers and trump and ryan and that stuff, that's not what the american people care about. the fact of the matter is is that today was an extraordinarily important win for working families all over this country who understood that this so-called health care bill was not a health care bill, it was a $300 billion tax break for the top 2% and hundreds of billions more in tax breaks for the drug companies and the insurance companies and what the american people said in town meeting after town meeting where they flooded those meetings, they told their republican representatives, you know what? you're not going to triple my premiums just because i'm hold. you're not going to throw me off of my medicaid. and i think what you saw is a rising up of the american people and it was a very important day and a very important victory. >> i couldn't help but think today about -- thinking back to the election, an election you ran in, and the woman you ran against in the primary and then endorsed in the general in which -- i read this account of donald trump talking about the bill and asking his advisers "is it really such a good bill?" because he had no command whatsoever and no curiosity to learn what was in the bill. i wonder what you think about the ways in which people looked at hillary clinton and thought, yeah, maybe she knows details but it doesn't inspire me and the importance of actually knowing what you're talking about when you're trying to pass legislation. >> well, obviously, needless to say, one would thing when you run for president of the united states as trump successfully did that you might and with to know something about some of the most important issues facing this country like health care. you might think that would be the case. you'll remember a month ago trump said, boy, this health care thing is complicated. well, no kidding, it really is. but i think the problem is that while obamacare has, in fact, made -- done some good things, 20 million more people have health insurance, we have ended this disaster of so-called pre-existing conditions, young people can get health insurance through their parents, there's a limit to how much people have to pay if they have a serious illness. what we should also and must understand a, chris, is this is far, far, far, from perfect legislation and in my view, as you've heard me say many, many times, i'm talking to you right now about an hour away from the canadian border. somehow or another they manage to provide health care for every man, woman, and child in their country at about half the cost per person than we do. somehow the cost of prescription drugs in canada are a fraction of what it is in the united states. we have got to have the guts to take on the insurance companies and the drug companies and move forward to a medicare for all single payer program and i'll introduce legislation to do that. >> one of the things that struck me about this debate was the role medicaid played in it. and medicaid is a benefit that i think it was very easy for many years for politicians to sort of say that it was some other people, right? it was a program for the poor and a combination of a variety of factors, including medicaid expansion, you saw how central and kind of inviolable medicaid has become. it's almost ascended to the same status as medicare and social security. i feel like that's a new political reality and represent s a pretty seismic shift. >> well, off couple things, for a start i'm sure you know about two-thirds of medicaid spend dog to nursing home care. so you have a lot of middle-class families whose mom or dad is in a nushzing home and medicaid is paying far and we did a good job of making people realize that also you have states like kentucky, west virginia where the rate of the uninsured went way, way down, hundreds of thousands of people finally got insurance. and you know what? they don't want to lose that insurance. so what our job was and what we have got to continue to do is to bring people together in understanding that trump lied to them when he said he was going to defend the rights of working people. in fact what he is doing is defending wall street, the insurance companies, and the drug companies. our job now is to not only defeat these right-wing extremists proposals it's to bring people together around a progressive agenda -- creating jobs, raising the minimum wage, moving toward a health care for all single payer program. >> so they're now talking about -- the president almost seemed in a bizarre way relieved. he was talking for several weeks about how he didn't want to do this and he would be happy to have it over with. he seemed to be nonplussed. they're tking about a tax reform -- and i put reform in quotes -- package. what do you think about that as the next agenda item? in some ways losing your health care seems more tangible but i don't think the american people voted for a mandate for lowering the corporate tax rate. >> right. you're right in saying it's one thing to be talking about esoteric issues like corporate tax rates, it's another thing to take people's health insurance a way. that have in a sense as s an easier fight. but with this so-called tax reform fight, what it's about is, of course, giving huge tax breaks to billionaires like donald trump. they want to repeal the estate tax which applies only to the top two-tenths of 1%. they want to give massive tax breaks to corporations although we have major corporations today making billions of profrts who already don't pay a nick until federal income tax. so tax reform is an important issue and when you have massive levels of income and wealth inequality, very, very rich are getting much richer while the middle-class shrinks. what we have got to demand is the wealthiest people and largest corporations start paying their fair share of taxes and that's the effort i hope we can bring people together around. >> that battle is going to be a fascinating one in a completely different way. you also wonder whether defeat begets defeat and people start to smell blood that it's a political reality. >> well, that's right, chris. let's -- today's victory was important in terms of health care but what's also important is that we have taken on the right wing extremist agenda. we beat them today and we've got to keep betting them and we have to go proactive with the progressive agenda. >> senator bernie sanders, thank you for joining me. enjoy your weekend. i want to say thank you to everyone who has come out to say hi on my book tour for my new

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happening to him. he's a hate news monger. he's being challenged in court for things he's done. i do think this is another example of how these companies are struggling to figure out how to handle content on their platforms. it's harder than having an algorithm decide what to do. >> and what is the policy moving forward. >> unclear. >> appreciate it. thank you all for being with me. i'm poppy p py harlow in new yo. next hour starts now. hello, everyone, here is a question for -- do you believe an admitted liar or an accused one? that is exactly what jurors are face floodinging today in a vid courtroom as the star witness is back on the stand in the trial against paul manafort. so far rick gates has been telling the court a riveting tail of betrayal, theft, and years of financial fraud. and while there is nothing here about what either man did for the trump campaign, this is the first trial to come out of the special counsel's russia investigation, and they're back at it now. joe johns is outside the courthouse in alexandria, virginia. he's joining me right now. joe, what has been happening in the courtroom? testimony continuing, what are you hearing? >> reporter: it's really fass nating. the way rick gates lays out how they did it, how he and paul manafort moved millions of dollars that they got paid from ukraine through bank accounts in cypress so that manafort could have access to the money, and they're laying it out by presenting the witness, rick gates, star witness, by the way, with emails and other documents including some that are damaging, presumably, to manafort, one in particular which clearly indicates that what this gates would do is get Kate Bolduan gives a fresh take on today's top stories. that's where we are. back to you. >> and more to come. joe, thank you very much. court continues. joining me, crime and justice reporter shimon porcupez, and cnn legal analysts and former federal prosecutors. thanks all for being here. renata, first to you, how is the gates testimony going so far? like how would you -- how would you grade this? >> it's going very well for the prosecution. i think at this point if we're grading on a curve, we'd give him an a. they have obviously -- gates has problems, you alluded to that earlier in the show. whenever you have a flipper, cooperator, they're going to have problems. they're somebody who's committed a crime. here gates is -- you know, admitted to lying under oath. he admitted to lying to the fbi. so that is something that jurors are going to have to consider. but the -- that has been fronted by the prosecutors. in other words, they have put that out there there for the jury so it takes the sting out of the cross-examination. and what they have done as was pointed out a moment ago is walk through in detail how rick gates committed crimes along with paul manafort. and that is the power of a witness like him, a cooperator. he can say, i committed crimes along with that man, and here is how he did it. >> jennifer, the "washington post" who put it this way first, which is the jury has to now decide who they're going to believe, as i said it top. an admitted liar, an accused one. how is the jury supposed to decide that? >> there are a few ways that the prosecution will ask the jurors to decide that rick gates is telling the truth here. one is just the structure of his cooperation agreement. he has to tell the truth. that's in the agreement. if he doesn't, he doesn't get the benefit of cooperation, he doesn't get his guilty plea back either. he'll be facing time. the judge won't be able to give him leniency. the most important way is that he's corroborated by all the other evidence in the case. that's what was being discussed earlier. not just his own oral testimony about what happened, but emails, other documents, i'm sure there are wire transfer records, as well. so in addition to what he says, the jury will also be relying on the other evidence in the case. that's what prosecutors will use to say yes, he lied to us when he first came in, yes, he was stealing from paul manafort, yes, he lied to the irs. but he's telling you the truth here today, and here's how you know. this evidence backs him up that, of course, he couldn't have anything to do with fabricating. >> shimon, put this in perspective for folks. who is rick gates in the grand scheme of the investigation? >> when you listen to the testimony and what you're hearing is a guy who is directly involved in almost every part the paul manafort's business. that's clearment in this -- clear. in this testimony, he's revealing emails, messages sent to him, to paul manafort, to ukrainians. it is going to be hard for the defense in this case to refute the documents. you can go after witnesses all you want. it seems like the prosecution at least to this points has a lot of other evidence, documents certainly that are going to bolster their case. you know, in the grand scheme of things, also when you think about rick gates and what he was to the presidential campaign, right, he was involved in that. so he knows almost every aspect probably of paul manafort's professional life, his political life. and again, you know, what was revealed yesterday was that he has met with prosecutors some 20 times. so we really don't know exactly everything that rick gates has told him about paul manafort's life. we know that investigators, the fbi, the special counsel, has been very interested in paul manafort outside of this case and what he knew about communications with russians and perhaps others during the campaign. we really have only a little bit of -- of look inside of what rick gates knows concerning paul manafort. >> and with all of this kind of setting up as we have, i really wonder what is cross-examination going to look like? >> it is going to be brutal, kate. the defense absolutely has to take down rick gates if they want any chance of victory. even if they do take down gates, there's a lot of other evidence, they still might lose. if they don't take down gates, it's all over. gates essentially lays out the prosecutions's case, goes through the evidence. he is telling the jury, i worked with that man, we were criminals, we worked together. here's how we did it. so you can expect a lot of fireworks today. this is going to be the most dramatic part of the trial. in the defense opening, they said, the opening statement, that -- that rick gates is the real bad guy, he's the real wrongdoer. and you can expect that a lot of fireworks here, particularly focusing on the fact that he embezzled money from manafort. the defense will argue that he fooled manafort then, and it goes to show that he fooled manafort as to this other stuff. >> part of what one of the big things that's come out, jennifer, is that rick gates says that -- admitted that he basically stole money from paul manafort over the years, like in the process of all of this nefarious stuff that rick gates is admitting to. why did he admit that? >> he had to admit that. you have to tell the truth about everything that you've done. i mean, even if he stole car parts when he was a kid, he's going to admit that. this especially because keep in mind the prosecutors have all of this documentary evidence. they have all of the financial accounts and probably could see even if rick gates didn't tell them, that money was going out that couldn't be accounted for through the salaries. he had to come clean. he did come clean. renato's right, that's going to be a tough part of the cross. >> jennifer, does this testimony make it less likely that manafort takes the stand? >> you know, it's hard to tell about a defendant testifying. in my experience defendants only take the stand when they're desperate, when it looks really bad for them and they think they have no chance of winning. i think that's probably the case here. but keep in mind that his testimony then opens him up to cross on a whole variety of topics including things that he doesn't testify about on direct. as long as they go to his credibility. he may not be willing to open that pandora's box given what the government knows about him. so it will be interesting to see. i still am guessing that he doesn't testify, though, given the risks. >> okay. shimon, this case as we've mentioned is not about the president's campaign or possible collusion with russia. these are very clearly financial crimes that happened that he's accused of and charged with, that happened before manafort joined the trump campaign, years before in some cases. how important is really today for the mueller investigation when you talk about this star witness, this testimony, this cross-examination, that will be coming? this moment? >> so here's what i think, it's important because rick gates is a cooperator. if the defense or anyone, say, in this case brings him down, whatever else he may be cooperating on could be in jeopardy. if they break his credibility here, certainly if this jury finds that he's not believable, you can be assured that the prosecution, that these investigators are going to look at this as an issue. it's not necessarily going to affect the plea deal that rick gates has worked out and the cooperation agreement. they would be devastated. it would hurt their chances of using him in any other criminal trial. they can continue to use him in their investigation and gather information and get information from him. but to put him out there publicly would certainly -- if his credibility is found to be bad in jeopardy, putting him out there in public again would probably limit it. >> guys, great to see you. thank you very much. let's see what happens today. ahead for us, the final test for president trump before the midterm elections. can republicans hang on to a very longheld, very strongly held, reliably red seat in ohio? or will democrats be making history tonight? and one of the greatest athletes of all time, tennis star serena williams, opening up again about a personal struggle. what she is saying today that has so many people talking. 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why, oh why? it seems everyone has their own answer, and the thinks he is the solution. campaigning there over the weekend, but not surprisingly, the candidates disagree on what impact he will have. >> has brought so much enthusiasm out, to have both the vice president of the united states and the president of the united states here within six days of each other is just -- huge. >> the most important thing we can do is have one-on-one conversations with our volunteers, with me, with my family, knocking on doors. because that's more valuable than when people come in from washington, d.c., they spend a couple of hours here, and leave. they're not invested in the community like i am. >> cnn's ryan nobles is in ohio for us. what are you seeing there? you're at the polling place where the voters are. what are they telling you? >> reporter: yeah, it's been a steady stream of voters here in wef westerville. there's no doubt that president trump looms large in this race. national politics certainly a part of the focus here. we were reminded last night that this is still very much a local race. that's because of something the republican candidate troy balderson said last night. take a listen. >> my opponent is from franklin county. franklin county has been challenging. we don't want someone from franklin county representing us. >> reporter: if you caught that, balderson said we don't want someone from franklin county representing us. we happen to be in franklin county now. this makes up one-third of this important congressional district, and it is where danny o'connor, the democrat, hails from. o'connor responded saying our district represents someone who's going to represent all of us. troy balderson made it crystal clear that's not him. and democrats are really trying to seize on these comments, targeted facebook ads that are going out to voters here in frederick county to try and drive them to the polls. certainly this would be the more moderate end of the district that includes parts of columbus, as you get further away from columbus. the district gets more red. kate, for all the talk about donald trump's influence in this race, it could come down especially something, a race that is so close at this point to a very big gaffe at the 11th hour that could decide who wins or loses tonight. we'll have to see what happens. >> great to have you there. thank you very much. for more on the race and what the results could mean, who else am i going to go to? difficult, or disastrous? >> this is the only election. not like there's more inning in terms of ohio. -- more coming in terms of ohio. this is what folks are voting on if they're turning out in ohio. what does it change in terms of the map and the path if the democrat wins? >> reporter: if republicans cannot hold this seat, ronald reagan was president the last time a democrat won this seat. if the republicans cannot hold it tonight, it is a better-than-safe bet the democrats will take back the house. better than a safe bet. if they cannot hold a seat like this, you cannot expect them to hold the more competitive races that would give the democrats the 32 -- 23 or 24 they need. if it's close, republicans will try to turn the lessons in the battlegrounds states. this matters. it's not just a special election because we're inside 100 days, we're close to november. republicans are nervous about the message out of this district tonight. >> yeah. the momentum is real on this one. trump came out with a new endorsement yesterday. i want to ask about another race. there are other people voting. >> reporter: right. >> tonight. a controversial polarizing, if you will, kansas secretary of state, chris coback, he is running for governor. in the primary fight with the current republican governor. what does it mean for republicans' chances of keeping the governor's mansion there if we're talking about chris coback and an endorsement that by all accounts that i'm seeing folks didn't want donald trump to weigh in on this. >> reporter: no, they did not. they wanted him to stay silent. think about what you said -- the sitting republican president just opposed a sitting republican governor. donald trump loves his sway in the republican party. he thinks he can turn out the voters. he loves being the leader of the republican party in that way, rally trump, if you will. base trump, if you will. he doesn't understand, many republicans will tell you, his responsibility as the leader of the party, they think by endorsing chris coback who, like the president, says that millions of people came out of the woodwork and voted illegally in the presidentally election, among other -- presidential 14,000 firefighters across california are battling 16 major fires. the largest is the mendocino complex fire. it's two fires combined into one. now it's doubled in size over the last three days. and now it's the largest fire in california's history. it's burned more than 290,000 acres, an area about the size of los angeles, if you can believe it. so far, there are no reports of deaths or injuries related to that fire. we know from other fires there have been fatalities. joining me now, live from lakeport, california, correspondent dan simon with more. dan, it really seems like these fires, you take all 16, they will not quit. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: hi, kate. yeah, the california wildfires keep getting bigger and bigger. this one is massive. we're not seeing any abatement. this is one of the hometown that's been -- one of the homes that's been destroyed. 75 homes in total. and you have about 34% containment, and thousands of people who have been evacuated. at this point about 11,000 homes still being talented. we have some of the structures like i said, destroyed. for the most part, you see what the fire has done. it has charred a tremendous amount of landscape. we're talking about fire that is in a steep area, very rugged terrain. so that is the place where the helicopters really need to focus their efforts to try to get those flames under control. for the most part, again, the fire is burning,a b -- burning from populated communities. with the weather, wind, heat, and bone-dry brush, there's a concern that the fire could push into the populated areas. >> we know as we've seen it can shift it can change directions so quickly without really any warning. i have to ask you, dan, president trump is weighing in on the fires. he's tweeted out in part that the fires are being, in his words, magnified and made so much worse by the bad environmental laws which aren't allowing massive amounts of readily available water to be properly utilized. he said in a tweet. dune what he's talking about here -- do you know what he's talking about here? what are officials in california saying? >> reporter: kate, the experts here have no idea what he is saying. there is absolutely no problem when it comes to getting water to battle these wildfires. in the past -- really for the past few decades, there has been friction between environmental groups and farmers and commercial fishermen when it comes to water diversion. the notion that firefighters would be challenges getting water to put out the fires, it's not rooted in fact whatsoever. and really, everyone seems to be puzzled. >> and dan, this was also handed to me. it seems the white house doesn't know, as well, from cnn's kevin liptack, the white house is not offering any clarity to the president's claim. kevin liptak reporting, officials admit to being perplexed as to where trump may have gotten the notion that california's long-running water crisis is related somehow to the out-of-control fires. per politicsed in california. per -- per politicsed in california. perplexed in washington, d.c., as well. even at the white house. dan simon, thank you very much. appreciate it. ahead for us, a towering figure in sports gets candid about a real-life issue. ten is superstar serena williams sparking an important conversation across the country. this is your wake-up call. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion. humira can help stop the clock. prescribed for 15 years, humira targets and blocks a source of inflammation that contributes to joint pain and irreversible damage. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. help stop the clock on further irreversible joint damage. talk to your rheumatologist. right here. right now. humira. there's also a lot to know. the most important thing? 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it had me thinking all evening and morning about it. when you read that and you hear that, what do you -- what do you think? what is serena saying? >> i am so grateful to serena for being honest about mother hood especially in the early months. when i was a new mom years ago, i remember the power of brooke shields talking about postpartum depression. something i had not heard that much about. to hear a celebrity talk about that is not all rosy is incredibly powerful. >> it is incredibly powerful. elizabeth, something that i'm wondering about is -- is she talking about postpartum depression? is she talking about work-life balance? is she talking about all of it? what do you think? >> it's interesting. when you look at her instagram post, serena williams does not say she was diagnosed with postpartum depression. she talks about feeling in a funk. she talks about experiencing postpartum emotions. that can be different. that's not necessarily depression. i think in the end it doesn't matter. i think what she is talking about is what it's like to go back to work after having that cute baby there. it is difficult. i remember my first day back at cnn, an incredibly supportive place for mothers. i rode home with the first day with a friend and cried the entire day home. i wasn't depressed. it's just that before you're a mother, you're a different person. once you become a mother, you're not just about yourself. you're devoted to this other being. going back to work after going through that can be tough. >> christine, i have to say, i -- i have been so impressed all along on how candid serena has been about the journey. she is such an amazing athlete. and she is being so real about this aspect of her life. what does this mean for the sports world? >> kate, if it's possible, serena is having her finest hours now. and this is someone who's won 23 grand slam tournaments, is seen as the greatest of all time. maybe not just female tennis player, but of all tennis players. i think she's the greatest female athlete in any sport ever in history. yet i think this is each her finest achievement. because what the remarkable thing she's done on the tennis court, i think she's now decided to branch out and be honest. she always was honest. she always was very emotional in a good way about telling us what she thought about all these tournaments over the years. and she really burst on to the scene. in 1999, that's 19 years ago, as an 18-year-old, and she won her first u.s. open. she's gearing up again for the u.s. open where the crowds will be absolutely crazy about her. can you imagine the ovation? can you imagine -- now it's not just serena the tennis player, it's serena the cultural icon. and what she's saying and how she's helping women and -- and new fathers, it's -- really, it's serena's shining in a way that i don't know that any of us would have expected to see. it is great to see. >> and it doesn't seem planned. it just seems -- it's just authentic. she's just being herself and just being so -- there's so much strength in being open about it. because and you know this, as a working mom, there is always a risk. there is always -- it is always hard to show weakness or to throw up your hand and say, i need? help. and i wonder -- i don't know, maybe i'm being polly anna about it, but i wonder if serena speaking up helps with that. >> i think it helps tremendously. i think the more honest we are all about motherhood in the beginning and how hard to say to go back to work, to decide not to go to work. the more honest we can be with each other, the better. there is a taboo about talking about the really challenging parts of motherhood. and i think the great thing about serena's talking about it is that we're so used to her winning. she's the high achieving woman who probably got all as. she certainly knows the game like you practice, and then you get the trophy. you practice, win, get the trophy. and mother hood, there's no trophy as a motherhood, right. a completely different experience. for her to be sharing that with us is powerful because we're not used to seeing her that way at all. >> our troughies are the kids -- trophies are the kids, but sometimes the kids take the trophy and beat us over the head with it. >> exactly. >> elizabeth, i -- i never think of people appreciate and especially what anne's talking about. people appreciate the intense change that happens in that first year of having a baby. physical, of course. but emotional and mental. i mean, people talk about the fourth trimester for a baby. there's a fourth trimester for mothers, too. i wonder why we don't hear more about it. >> absolutely. when you think about it, you've spent nine months carrying this little baby inside you. and then three months or whatever your maternity was doting on them and looking at them every second. and then all of a sudden, you're sitting there at a desk, and you're still in that fourth trimester. i mean, that is where you're sort of in the early stages. you are a different person after you become a mother. you're a better person. and so -- i think that we all need to remember that. and so when we talked about before, this really could be her shining moment. i think that is absolutely right. she is not just a great athlete now, but she is a great athlete and a great mother. >> and christine, you were talking about kind of this being her shining moment. you have serena williams talking about an issue that she's so passionate about. and so real about. you have lebron james speaking out in the past week about what he is passionate about. and doing now a documentary, i don't know where these people find the time. doing an documentary about the athletes and causes they care about. are we seeing a new moment? i feel like the pendulum swings back and forth, christine, of athletes are role models, athletes shouldn't be role models, athletes are role models. >> you nailed it. in the '60s, you had muhammad apply, billie jean king, many others. then michael jordan saying republicans buy sneakers, too, and tiger woods wanting to be more corporate. i think you're right. we're looking at athlete activism in a way that i don't know that we've seen. it's coming from everywhere. what's great is that athletes have a voice and bring people to a conversation who otherwise would not be included. so whether it's bad things like the ohio state story right now or the michigan state horrors of usa gymnastics or important issues and happy things with the baby and then the did. issues involve that with serena williams, you have someone with a voice, serena williams, who has a way to reach people and brings people into a conversation who otherwise might be left out of the conversation. sports is this great common denominator. now it's bringing us to the issues in a meaningful way. >> i so want to see serena williams on the cover of "marie claire" again. i want to see her grace the pages of your magazine and see any conversation that you would have. what's your -- what's your, i don't know, message to serena today? >> just thank you. thank you from me and from all the new mothers out there. and thank you for sharing an -- sharing it on instagram. there's a lot of talk about fomo and how everyone's lives look beautiful on instagram. >> yes. >> for her to be honest and raw on instagram is really powerful. >> great to see you guys. thank you. great to see you, christine, elizabeth. thank you both. >> thank you very much. >> thanks, serena. coming up for us, president trump says he just slapped iran with what he calls the most biting sanctions ever imposed. iran's leader says let's talk. what happens now? that's next. no, what?? i just switched to geico and got more. more? got a company i can trust. that's a heck of a lot more. over 75 years of great savings and service. you can't argue with more. why would ya? geico. expect great savings and a whole lot more. feeclaritin and relief fromwsy symptoms caused by over 200 allergens. like those from buddy. because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones. feel the clarity. and live claritin clear. nuclear program and sanctions the trump administration just reimposed this morning. president trump today tweeting this. these are the most biting sanctions ever imposed, and in november they ratchet up to yet another level. anyone doing business with iran will not be doing business with the united states. i am asking for world peace, nothing less. so now this is what we have. both the u.s. and iranian presidents saying they're ready to meet without preconditions. so now what? joining me now, cnn global affairs analyst aaron david miller, who served as middle east negotiator for republican and democratic administrations. aaron, help me with this one. you think they should plan a sit-down with iran, but not a summit. what are you looking for? what should happen here? >> you know what the end game is, kate, is unclear. what we don't need is another summit -- what i call another summit of the vanities. either with putin or even with kim. talking to north korea was important. it's just these unstructured summits which are a reflection of the president's desire to dominate the headlines and to somehow personally believe he can turn these leaders to his advantage doesn't work out very well. so no, i mean, we ought to be talking to the iranians if only to diffuse the possibilities of tension in the gulf and tone down some of the rhetoric, but there's got to be some sense of strategy. for now, it's good politics to weaken iran. as long as the president stays out of a war and the iranians don't ramp up their nuclear program, this is a kind of muddle through strategy, which will probably get you through the midterms. >> just through the midterms. all right. i hear you. but there's the long game, aaron. >> we could flip a coin. you asked me what the strategy is. we could flip a coin. same with north korea, with putin, with arab/israeli stuff. >> i hear you. >> it's hard. >> it's hard, that's why i bring you on. i never bring you on for the easy stuff, my friend. trump's national security adviser john bolton was out again today talking about the renewed sanctions on iran. let me play you what he said. >> the implications are already pretty profound. they'll grow more profound in november when the oil-related sanctions kick in as well. >> what's the real impact you think of the sanctions? i mean, the sanctions were on, the sanctions were relieved, the sanctions are now going back on. does this change behavior like the administration is hoping for, you think? >> it's certainly not going to change the regime, not any time soon. as far as changing behavior, i don't think so. not without a -- look, the administration can apply a lot of vinegar. the question is whether they're prepared to apply some honey in order to create the possibility of some sort of negotiation, but then you have to ask yourself, well, what are we negotiating? we're going back to the nuclear deal with the president that says it's the worst agreement in the history of the world. as far as a comprehensive agreement, one that stops iran's activities in the region, gets a better deal for mr. trump, i don't think neither iran nor mr. trump is prepared to pay the price for that. i wouldn't rule out, though, kate -- six, seven times already it's been in the wind that sometime this fall, maybe against the backdrop of the u.n. general assembly, there will, in fact, be another summit of the vanities. i'd settle for a secret channel. wouldn't surprise me if they're working on it even now, to try to create a structured dialogue to see what's possible now between the u.s. and iran. that's the best you're going to hope for. >> yeah, when there are so many other countries who still want to be part of the now non-u.s. included nuclear deal. aaron, great to see you. thank you so much. >> take care, kate. >> let's see what happens tomorrow. coming up for us, rudy giuliani says the president's legal team is ready to respond to special counsel robert mueller. what giuliani's forecasting. he doesn't want the president to talk about it, and whether or not that means the president will ever sit down with the special counsel. that's next. to get your windshield fixed. >> teacher: let's turn in your science papers. >> tech vo: this teacher always puts her students first. >> student: i did mine on volcanoes. >> teacher: you did?! oh, i can't wait to read it. >> tech vo: so when she had auto glass damage... she chose safelite. with safelite, she could see exactly when we'd be there. >> teacher: you must be pascal. >> tech: yes ma'am. >> tech vo: saving her time... 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a modern city like many others but there's one big difference it's located in the middle of a desert in one nine hundred fifty the population was barely one hundred thousand then the age of air conditioning gone the electricity to power this convenience was supplied by coal plants suddenly it became possible to live under the blazing sun the population skyrocketed today phoenix is home to one point six million and is the fifth largest city in the united states thomas basso moved here more than twenty years ago. despite the climate he can enjoy his hobby all year round golf one hundred and eighty four golf courses have sprung up here in the desert and . i live in st louis at the time and every winter i'd put the clubs or couldn't play golf. the good things. live in phoenix is that you can get up in the morning i got a day like today harry are in april and it's sixty eight degrees sixty nine degrees fahrenheit you can come out and enjoy a beautiful round of golf in a beautiful breeze and you get your vitamin d. from the sun and so it's is a very healthy active lifestyle. but behind phoenix's vergence golf courses and their year round immaculate greens there's another story in arizona average water consumption per resident is six hundred liters of water per day among the highest in the united states it's the price of living in the desert. agriculture is also thriving i mean the temperate climate and abundant sunshine crops are numerous and plentiful. but they need water some need lots of water. cotton is farmed intensively in arizona it's one of the most thirsty plants on the planet but water is scarce in the desert so it has to be sourced from elsewhere. twenty years ago the country's largest and most expensive irrigation system was built here five hundred and forty one kilometers of canals draw water directly from the colorado river. but the supply is not inexhaustible. the colorado river and the region's groundwater are not easily replenished. phoenix recently experienced its worst drought in a thousand years. rain was followed by every new dry spell water shortages could begin cramping residents lifestyle in less than a decade but among. siddons there are no signs of panic. after all a month can happen in a decade. it's . you have to let almost the problem be there and then mankind is very very innovative it's very entrepreneurial it will solve the problem here we are in arizona where one state away california is in the way of the ocean the ocean has more water than all of mankind could ever use it's got salt in it so at some price you can desalinate that water and you have fresh water. if we are willing in arizona potion only to pay for getting that water here and pay for the price of decelerating and then we can live here if not we need to choose to live someplace else. is the solution really that simple desalinate sea water or relocate an entire city. maybe the question we should be asking is a different one. what if our energy hungry lifestyle simply isn't compatible to living in a desert. phoenix is emblematic of our development model the power of fossil fuels coal oil and gas have emboldened us to believe we can find a solution to anything at any time without ever worrying about depleting our natural resources. for. the reason we use fossil fuels is not because we're stupid the reason we use fossil fuels is not because we just want to destroy the environment and we have no idea about this the reason we use fossil fuels is because this energy has changed our livelihoods in ways that we don't want to give up we love to travel we love the idea that we can do things without so much labor fossil fuel is what's made this possible the question is really to me it's not how we're going to give these things up or rather how we're going to change our societies and our energy systems to make it possible for us to live on earth without changing the climate i think it's definitely possible but that the reasons that it's so hard to change is because actually we're quite fond of the way we change the earth. behind a fear of change is a fear of loss. societies today are not the first in history to opt for standstill rather than change. the story of phoenix bears a remarkable similarity to the viking conquests. when the vikings landed in greenland more than a thousand years ago the climate was very mild the first settlers believed in the promise of a green fertile land. they lived according to the same social model that allowed them to rule over northern europe. soon trade between greenland and the mainland was thriving. for two centuries the norse colonies flourished. and. yet life in greenland was challenging to adapt the vikings turned to sheep farming which was more resilient against weather changes but which we've the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries the climate underwent a radical change. ships became trapped in ice it became increasingly difficult to sail to homelands in europe to restock supplies. with time the farmers tried to switch to hunting with little success. farming trade religion unsuited to this harsh environment the pillars of viking society felt one after another. many fled the island. those who stayed tried to adopt the customs of the innuit whose way of life was perfectly suited to this kingdom of ice but the vikings found it impossible to completely revamp their culture their beliefs their way of life everything was too far removed from the innuit. by the end of the fifteenth century nor society had completely vanished from greenland. as for the innuit they still and have it the island today. will the residents of phoenix be forced to one day abandon the desert like the vikings were forced to leave greenland and on a global level where we go if the earth's resources prove insufficient for supporting our lifestyle. at the moment it seems decision makers are not asking that question on the contrary interference in the environment is increasing drastically. humankind has continuously sought to free itself from nature's constraints. today we rule the planet and we are profoundly changing it to suit our needs. after two thousand years of stable climate since the last ice age experts are calling for the current holocene epoch to give way to a new geologic time named for a measurable human impact on the earth's ecosystems anthropocene the age of man it marks the end of a power struggle that began two hundred years ago. or did we just have him sick enough in the early nineteenth century the idea emerged of human dominance over nature because evidently our freedom depended on it could pull social problems like poverty would be countered by economic growth and if we put you we believe going to solve our socio political problems we only needed to control nature itself a second i know that everything that. the secret to defeating poverty lay in making the most of the earth's natural resources buried underground for millennia cold seemed like a gift from nature it was the fuel that powered the beginning of the industrial revolution a race for progress that spawned factories across europe. manchester became the center of the cotton industry by the middle of the one nine hundred century the english city surrounded by five hundred factories was blanketed in smaug from blast furnace says. it was the price for maternity but not everyone was prepared to pay it. also lauderdale told it back to you both in france and england around the harris and manchester house they were already protests by residents outraged by stinking factories and environmental degradation only don't they blame the factories for epidemic outbreaks and even population decline. it's interesting to note how this dissent was curbed also that in france a new medical doctrine of hygiene was propagated which argued that the basis of public health was not the environment but material prosperity. meant that he shifts that was because that allowed no economic growth and industrialization would make the population as a whole more prosperous and thus also healthier. only a halt to this theory was a powerful argument that was used to get french authorities to continue approving new factories says the autoloader with on us this is a. if well for guaranteed health then factories were indispensable in eighteen ten friends demanded by decree that certain environmental criteria be respected before a factory could be built. once a building permit was granted it couldn't be revoked. in cases of pollution or environmental contamination residents could sue for financial compensation in theory at least. and so environmental degradation has been a concern since the start of the industrial revolution yet human destruction of nature continues to be regarded as a necessary evil. of. textiles chemicals and steel elice then one hundred years new industries developed above all in france and england and everywhere the power of coal was harnessed to operate machines. in addition new production techniques opened the door to mass production and mass consumption i don't know if the second pillar of down through the scene was the development of a consumer society which began to appear towards the end of the nineteenth century in the us along with the concept of brands. of old episode is going to started with the introduction of consumer credit with which plays a pivotal role in the anthropocene since that is what allowed the automobile industry to flourish by the nineteenth twenties or half of all american households had an automobile that much earlier than in europe and two thirds of these cars were bought on credit for the. was a letter. i am i. a new era was dawning it was the birth of the american way of life a dream for so many. desire. to dream was based on industry interests and consumer needs. a case in point street cars. gradually they began disappearing from american cities even though they were in widespread use and environmentally friendly. carmakers jockeyed to get their product on the road. they bought out struggle street car operators and replace trams with buses. in one thousand thirty three president franklin d. roosevelt created the nation's first publicly owned power company. the move increased demand for electricity across the u.s. countryside. coal plants were built even though some six million small windmills were already in place on farms across the midwest operating irrigation pumps and had just started producing electricity. the dramatic effects of pollution on the climate were already scientifically documented in the late nineteenth century the swedish chemist and later nobel laureates on to are a new it was first calculated our mental awareness arose much earlier than many believe and. why is it that we continue to ignore millions students today. is it because human society has achieved such power over nature. that. power can deceive a society and make it vulnerable to the ancient maya experience that's a long. it was the year four hundred in central america. for a time the climate had been very favorable in the maya and hire me that aided the mayas rise to the most powerful civilization on the continent. they had their own script and astronomical calendar each city state had its own king whose prayers it was believed could call forth life giving bread. the population grew up with every generation. maya society became increasingly complex and comprised of hierarchical social classes. but it lacked unity. individual cities states coveted their neighbors resources triggering armed conflicts can you. at its height the maya civilization numbered seventy cities states which were in constant conflict. gradually the climate changed. there was less rainfall. crop yields dropped. food became scarce for a population accustomed to plenty. then the worst drought in seven thousand years said. but the maya were not prepared to make any changes to their way of life they were incapable of adapting to new environmental conditions. or is broke out. fearing for their power the king sacrificed prisoners to appease the gods. but to no avail. rebellions brought the city states. just a century after exceeded by a civilization collapsed. their temples are comparable to the skyscrapers of today. where they invoked the gods to bring rain we bank on technological progress to stop climate change we are in the same miserable. situation as they were. how can two hundred modern nations achieve what seventy ancient city states fail to accomplish. it's a question that's been debated annually at the un climate conference since one nine hundred ninety two. that they didn't accept the land after the fall of the berlin wall the end of the cold war in the early one nine hundred ninety s. gave rise to new hope for the world's problems could be solved through a global cooperation. and attempts were made to find global solutions like the signing of the one nine hundred ninety seven kyoto protocol a binding international treaty to slow global carbon emissions but that hope has evaporated instead paralysis has set in over global climate action. worse still some countries have begun backtracking. in twenty twelve canada left the kyoto protocol. without the threat of disciplinary action it is now free to exploit its colossal oil sand deposits in alberta the equivalent of one hundred sixty eight billion barrels underground it's the world's third largest oil reserve . it's an ecological disaster this radical decision makes the country's priorities clear the economy always trumps environmental concerns. all change requires courage because people fear change people experience change even if the change might be good for them in the long run many people are afraid of change for more than twenty years there's been an organized campaign here in the united states to persuade the american people change isn't really happening and therefore you don't have to worry about have to change anything because there isn't even a problem and that's a very attractive story for many people because we'd rather that everything was fine we'd rather not change we'd rather there not be a problem the tragedy of the story in my opinion is twofold one is that because of just information we've lost a lot of time during which we could have and should have been working on solutions to the problem is now substantially worse and will be substantially harder to fix but also we've spread this path ology elsewhere. it's a minefield divergent interests. on the one hand we need to adapt to climate change and on the other people in the industrialized world are by no means willing to leave their comfort zone somewhat like the vikings who resisted any change to their lifestyle. were doomed by their complex social structure because they couldn't resolve conflicting interests when the climate changed. into the same trap if we continue to place economic interests over the environment. how the. ops. just be fit with other different you must be fit when does a human being average. normally only when he's in immediate danger when he sees something he can't escape. like a mountain barreling down on a hundred measures that are shot still take off see what it would the boy is sort of in he's the guy but if someone told him to go up the in twenty years a mammoth is going to come after you if you just stay put so he did and i would you know we simply don't want to acknowledge that we can't carry on this way forever. our actions are always based on reflexes our way of thinking is limited because our reactions are still based on reflexes if we're incapable of looking ahead pallywood . is change possible if it is enforced in japan the past out of an ecological disaster was centrally planned in six hundred fifty seven a huge fire devastated the capital and oh one hundred thousand people lost their lives it took just two years to rebuild the city requiring massive amounts of timber but even prior to this emergency japan was threatened by deforestation. after decades of peace and prosperity the population had doubled the forests were cleared to make way for arabella. the rapidly expanding cities devoured wood which was used for almost everything. once intact natural forests were decimated lacking regulation against logging japan's landscape was turning into a wasteland. the . immediate consequences were soon evident in landslides the sharp decline in crop yields. famine spread in towns battles a rapid for control of the last wooded areas the country was on the brink of collapse . the two leading political powers the shogun and the di meo decided to take action . deforested land was fenced off. from now on permits were required to felled trees or graze animals. in the face of immediate danger villagers adhere to the new rules. would transports over land and on water were controlled and laws regulated who could use how much wood and for what purpose. illegal logging was punished. at the same time families started having fewer children. there were more abortions and even infanticide. the government introduced reforestation measures and these were implemented by local communities. these two were strictly controlled. households switched to more economical cooking and heating methods amid a lack of wood construction methods changed. only by hearing to strict regulations was it possible for japan to avert total deforestation. climate change is a reality and we know what is causing it many are looking at complex solutions the global ecological crisis on the one hand is forcing us to protect the environment around us but it also demands that we look at our societies and the way we live together. i think the focus exclusively on the environment doesn't get at the reality that the environment is simply shaped by society so if we want to see a better environment we have to think about the structure of our society. today china is seen as the world's biggest polluter it's the perfect scapegoat but the accusations are misleading because in fact the world's leading industrial power is doing everyone else's dirty work. the insects and then yeah fester in a certain way the situation in china the situation in nineteenth century manchester just launches in china is the workshop of the world that the rules of europe's accomplishments in the field of energy efficiency are closely related to the relocation of its most energy intensive and polluting industries to china the more unique i did it is this release of this can you present actually really you could put your exposure. if someone manufactures a product in china which is then export it to friends or germany or the united kingdom whose emissions are those really so we blame china we say that those are chinese emissions but the goods and services are actually being consumed by westerners and if you calculate what it looks like if you trade those emissions not to the person who built the car or the airplane. whatever it is but to the person who uses it then chinese emissions fall very very low. just as an immigrant two hundred years ago massive growth in china has come at a cost to the nation's environment and public health. as it grapples to tackle these grave problems aging is seeking to go green china is now the world's leading investor in renewable energies a global power struggle has erupted to dominate these new markets china has its sights set on maintaining its leadership and is willing to burn millions of tons of coal to ensure it remains the world's number one solar panel manufacturer. under such conditions is a total transition away from fossil fuels even conceivable. just like more intelligent than the toys for an education installed in the us historically speaking there is never been one type of energy that has replaced another one but. instead ran as always discovered a new type of energy. so humans first used only would spend wood and coal then would coal and oil. the term energy transformation sounds like some kind of natural evolutionary process and in reality such a development would be a radical step that there's never been anything like it. or lose in the one possible approach could be to make environmental protection more profitable seem. to me. to me it's a strategy how the us america has been following for twenty years. in one thousand nine hundred five he founded forest finance a company that develops and distributes sustainable forest products which. one afterall often that my experience over the past forty years has shown that you can either save forests nor the world through charity projects alone you need to introduce a different economic system. it's not about different financing it's about a new collective approach to economic activity that doesn't destroy the bases of our wealth and namely nature and humankind the forest has done a lot for humankind over the millennia but people just take it for granted and don't pay anything for it services. and they feel it's theirs to cut down if they need it and but now the forests are disappearing it's imperative to pay for these services so that saddam. at forest financed stakeholders invest in forested properties in panama colombia peru vietnam their capital is used to reforest parcels of land stripped by intensive farming. over time the wood from these trees is sold creating a profit for the investor. it's a long term investment with no quick returns. and is not really thought one says it's very hard for as a modern society which is geared towards a quick profit to argue that it's entirely normal it's a wait twenty thirty years a generation for your returns it's very difficult but it's unavoidable. i hope that increasing numbers of people come to realize that the goal can be to make a ten percent profit and over three months. we want to generate sustainable value for future generations we have to do something. you. can with some of these trees will never be cut down. it's forced finance commitments to sustainable forestry. over time this approach is creating protected forests natural habitats for plants and animals. how do you answer to the challenges of climate change lies in converting the value of nature into economic investment products. could this approach be applied to the use of fossil fuels. the small french town of big gun in brittany has achieved a one hundred percent energy self-sufficiency. more than a million people signed onto its wind power project. each individual's investment was determined by their income. the energy price is guaranteed by the state utility company. so it's a bit of community participation is key it's what makes us stronger because everyone here is a volunteer regardless of their position and everyone contributes as best they can . also play caller. many small scale local community projects are helping people address the global challenges of climate change. but what is happening in the big cities and. our nega cities symbols of the anthropocene play a key role in climate change. they could serve as incubators for solutions to global warming. in barcelona which suffers from severe air pollution ecological awareness is high. citizen action projects are taking root across the catalonian capital fab labs a new type of collaborative laboratory that gives private citizens access to modern industrial production processes. the prototype of a solar house was conceived in one of these fabulous apps. anyone can download the plans from the internet for free. this is open sourced in its purest form. with the blueprints in hand one only has to head over to another fab lab to use their technical equipment. found blabs seek to found conny based on trading and sharing. their cities will just have two options in the future they can either actively take charge and become self-sufficient by using their own natural resources and assuming responsibility for their own future. or they can opt for the blade runner version. that could become a mega city with a wealthy city center and personal burbs where people live in dirt and misery when a few rich all open their big isolated skyscrapers the stars there are other guys. at some point will have to choose between these two options to keep. behind the footboard also the future will actually look a lot like the past. i guess there are fewer cars more pedestrians and public transportation much like barcelona which is introducing electric cars next on the sidewalks of the french and up in wider and having more trains nature i would have turned her cities. that are not. in two thousand and eight the president of ecuador. called for a referendum on writing a new constitution. passed with more than eighty percent approval among the. proposals environmental activists put forward an inconceivable idea to give nature rights similar to human rights this revolutionary idea was accepted and written into the country's constitution. unfortunately guaranteeing those rights has proved difficult and. ecuador boasts exceptional biodiversity but the country also relies heavily on oil. when huge reserves were discovered in the u.s. sunni national park leaders faced a dilemma. should they preserve nature or foster economic growth. in two thousand and seven the country decided to keep the oil where it was it asked the international community for financial compensation amounting to fifty percent of what it would have earned if it had exploited these reserves in twenty thirty six years after the initiative was presented which the entire world welcomed as a revolutionary way of preserving oil reserves in a region with an exceptionally rich biodiversity ecuador low verst its position because it lacks the financial means to preserve the national park workers but at the payback. international donors failed to deliver the financial support ecuador needed to carry out the plan companies were granted permission to drill much to the disappointment of environmental 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and the continent of africa on the move stories about motivational change makers taking their destinies into their own hands. d.w. multimedia series food for god. d.w. dot com or go. hello and welcome to a new edition of ops twenty one. this is its literature i'm intentionally messing with you it's the best german language novel of the year will be announced at the upcoming french first book fair we meet the six contenders for the coveted german book prize for. first we had to san francisco and an exhibition showcasing contemporary muslim fashion that explores the fusion between faiths and fashion modesty and maternity. is america ready for the show. when the do young museum in san francisco announced contemporary muslim fashions two years ago the idea immediately sparked criticism dedicating an exhibition to muslim fashion given the current political climate in the us is a bold move but the museum's director at the time maps whole line and choice courting controversy i think i know so it's for life for them. on the one hand there's islamophobia criticism at the front and. on the other there's also criticism from feminists who feel the exhibition celebrates the subjugation of women in muslim countries are looking for fall in with these men. hardly surprising that the opening was so well attended eighty ensembles are on display all designed to cover the body in keeping with his lama principles they prove that there's more to muslim fashion the many realize. you are certain to be afraid of what they don't know. what i find nice and interesting is that once you see something. i don't think it's was scary as you might think. this is that. the fifty three muslim designers from across the globe have loaned their creations to the museum the pieces are high fashion elegant without a whisper of a cliché they might be what's called modest dress but they're also a celebration of confidence style and beauty. the intonation designer dion pelangi is a star of the muslim fashion world her five print designs are shown on runways in koala in poor and jakarta. when people say what comes to their mind is something in a dark colors and. colors but in the end line you can find colors that there's any style off the job so i think that's one of the. our signature. customer base our wealthy women she also sells in the us and europe the twenty seven year old who represents younger generations of fashion forward muslims for her to heat up is both a religious symbol and an accessory which can be used to express individuality that's not as paradoxical as it sounds a lot of people have a different perception about dep itself maybe they think that people who are press that oprah here so we start to be outspoken more in social media to show that we're not oppressed we were stylish clothes things and we can still do anything be anything with our here on. for some westerners head scarves and clothes specifically made to cover women's bodies remain tools of oppression. the exhibition touched on this view by including a book keeney the full body swimsuit which was banned on french beaches in twenty sixteen. the show also features the courageous protest by iranian women against he job loss in their radically changing country there's also been the rise of the muslim female professional and a lot of women are entering into the workforce and they're looking for a wardrobe that is both urban but also it hears to their modest dress codes. could tour design houses like oscar de la renta john galliano and karl lagerfeld are already designing for the growing and lucrative muslim fashion market muslim women spend forty four billion dollars a year on modest fashion the exhibition was partially inspired by the so called generation am confident muslim women and men between the ages of twenty and thirty bloggers fashion influencers from many countries who see themselves as unofficial ambassadors of muslim culture they call them. selves each of the styles or ministers their outfits are creative but also covered in keeping with the teachings of the koran all around the syrian american rapper mona haidar performs wearing her headscarf. pregnant stylish and strong her online activism demands more tolerance for muslims like me but the number of designers are joining her battle calling by making strong statements with her fashion like the saloon samaan designed a jacket with the us constitution printed on the back in arabic originally from lebanon she arrived in canada as a refugee. camp during my time as a refugee my i wasn't proud to being arab i was mocked i was criticized i was bullied i was you know going through a lot of lot of racism it is a political piece if you wish to see it that way but it also represents the u.s. constitution and the first amendment freedom of speech freedom of religion freedom of the press america is built on these values and we should remember that and the exhibition worth discussing the museum is well placed to start a much needed conversation about islam and muslim fashion without polemicist and i think it's very timely given our current climate that we're living in and i think that it's highly educational because not everybody may know muslim but art is the means to a conversation and so i think people might come and they might see something or they might learn something and then they're take away next time when they maybe watch the news and see something not so flattering about a muslim would be a little bit better. come spring the exhibition will move on to frankfurt it runs in the u.s. until january. time now. now to put our reading glasses on as we introduce the writers who made the shortlist for this year's german book prize for women and two men we start with susanna and the bird got a contemporary. the story begins with a sacrilege in an isolated mountain village a bird of prey worshiped by locals is killed. the bird hunters children pay the price. vocal describes their fateful encounters with a feather a day. i think birds especially birds of prey have always captured the human imagination. because they are such simple beings and yet they surpass us in many ways they can do so many things that we can't. form a medical student an artist story on and a journalist three supposedly rational people become obsessed with tracking down the mysterious god of birds searching for him and paintings and in a god for saken camp in africa. but that intellect common sense cannot save her siblings who for under the spell. of you think does this in the me tough i think it's a metaphor for our inner selves. of us of us least people are not confronted by something exteriors but by terrible parts of themselves. slickly says and. what are we in the face of nature this novel opens the door to a fantastical world that feels hauntingly real. in six suitcases maxine bello goes on a journey through history with a jewish family. what must it be like to be the son of russian jews constantly on the move seeing family members scattered across the world and never feeling it. might seem billers novel captures a sense of immigration fatigue the author drew on his family's own experience they came to germany in one thousand nine hundred seventy two years after the prague spring had been crushed. my parents suffered a lot leaving not just a city but a whole country and culture when you're forty and knowing you can't ever go back well that's like an amputation. and it's incredibly exhausting and i wanted to write about that i moved from munich to berlin when i was forty and that was hard enough for mentioned russian what can. the books narrator sent down from berlin to get to the bottom of a family secret his grandfather was denounced and executed in the soviet union who betrayed him and uncle. natalia a beautiful actress. the six chapters are written from six points of view the characters are perilous relatives including his mother brother and sister elena is the book or two biographical. because this is nonsense this is it's literature i'm intentionally messing with you mixing everything up cooking a great big pot of stew made of truth and lies some of the names are real some aren't and most of the events are completely made up with some comparative from. god knows why i suddenly remembered how when i was a child in prague i was always terrified that my whole life was just this story that spadeful was reading his son who of the neck to help him fall asleep and that space would shut the book of my story one day and that that would in my life to. the narrator's life does not end and the secret remains unsolved six suitcases conic masterpiece full of wit and melancholy. in arky peleg oh. also charts the history of a family this time on a canary island. thousand kilometers from germany off the african coast lies tenerife and emotionally charged a backdrop for a novel which takes readers on a journey through time and space through the political and personal. is the thought of leaving the island is on the periphery of europe and it's always interesting to tell a story from that perspective but more importantly this island didn't fit in with bush one german suburbia were i grew up. the authors mother is from the canary islands so she knows turner if well book tells the story of three families belonging to different classes in society spanning birth adultry love and death. the story is overshadowed by historical milestones the spanish civil war the franco dictatorship. travels backwards in time from the present to nine hundred nineteen a narrative challenge. i have to take everything i know about storytelling about building suspense and conveying information and forget it or turn it upside down after cops despite the complexity of the story her prose is calm and clear. i dislike opulence and corners it's basically sentimentality a sort of beautified retrospective with. nothing is beautified in this epic tale time passing and isolated moments a masterful depicted. i think every moment is the sum of all past moments the past is still present. stephon tom a novel called of the barbarians is set during the opium wars in one thousand nine hundred three china. people are starving those in power are amassing wealth it's a tinderbox riots in syria the typing rebellion is one of the bloodiest civil wars of all time with a death toll of thirty million. in count of the barbarians stefan tom a writes about this tragedy the old who has lived in taiwan for many years he depicts a faraway well and on the brink of a new era the rebellion is led by the charismatic mistake home. he and his growing numbers of followers see themselves as christians. the leader was in contact with christian protestant missionaries in hong kong and from his dreams and feverish fantasies he came to the conclusion that he was the son of god god second son the younger brother of jesus christ and that god is urging him to topple the emperor and make china a christian empire. it's a war on all fronts the british and the french muscle into as they want to force the free opium train. though it was a coalition of world views and political ideas clash of historical systems of order and the question was what form should world order take who has the right and power to decide what kind of a world we will live in. the novel central character is a young german missionary he experiences destruction and violence on his journey through the war zone and increasingly questions his own western values. of the barbarians as both a historical novel and an adventure story. it reads like an allegory of present day religious fanaticism. the cantona general by georgian born nino how to really tells the story of a russian oligarch and the rubble left by the crumbling of the soviet union. nino how to teach billy peers into the very depths of her character's selves. in the cat and in general she uses different perspectives to tell the tale of a monstrous crime. and of the first chechen war. the book is inspired by real life events. the house. was all pervasive people were fleeing their nerves frayed by curfews and cold war to much of the dead in the muddied snow were so disfigured they were unrecognizable as fallen as if the war was creating a new category a new kind of human. the central figure is alexander all of a sensitive russian turned perpetrator by the war together with other soldiers he raped and murdered a young woman in a mountain town in chechnya the spawns and again where i once crazy about this real life case is that the unit was on a kind of holiday. before they were on leave to recover from the fighting. but then they couldn't stand it they started all waging a kind of war within a war. and i'd keep in pick. twenty years on all off is a rich on a guard known as the general. but memories of his on a term since haunt him the son of a soviet war hero. so he holds himself and his co perpetrators to account. for it and for many wanted to depict a person who begins seeking some form of punishment because he knows he's done wrong with it and he sees the finality of that and realizes he can't go on living his life as before. leaving. a story akin to a classic tragedy know how to really explores crime and punishment wars inside heads and the evil within us all. now to argentina and the onset of the military dictatorship in the one nine hundred seventy s. . madonna's fail. and superstition the world of maria cecilia better. she's lived in germany for twenty two years and explores her native argentina from that. little town where she grew up on the outskirts of one as iris is called by a staff it's a melting pot where migrants from all over the world come to seek a better future. best name in the internet is the life in argentina is not easy. but people are used to fighting hard for the things they love and love the fields who came for. the heroes of her novel are hair dressers laundromat owners or car mechanics like bob and his grandfather with all their hopes and fears they congregate in the car workshop. there. anyone who wants to build up an honorable life in argentina needs a vision we need a utopia there's no way around it. the reader experiences major political events through the eyes of ordinary people the death of president pair on the terrorism of the one nine hundred seventy s. and social divisions on the eve of the military dictatorship. he wanted us to learn kana i wanted to write about what i know well enough to play inside of course that was life in a dark era a time filled with threats kidnappings murders but still all of these people sought out the light in their everyday lives the little things that make life worth living he wants that mark and. maria cecilia bettors opulent novel night growing is steeped in affection for its characters and depicts a torn society seeking its identity. six try. six rivals for the german book prize worthy contenders will find out the winner on october the yanks. in two thousand and six fall again henkel fontana smocks debut film the lives of others want every award going his latest is never look away doesn't live up to expectations. this fellow doesn't do small long on hankel from donors mark won an oscar for his first ever feature film he made his second one with hollywood stars but was marked by critics now his third film never look away has celebrated its premiere at the venice film festival although there were no prizes there was one success for adonis mark germany has selected his film as its nomination for the best foreign film oscar. this gifts he. said that's what constitutes borders just as either of us had us but couldn't so to. quote from kind of an exhibition about degenerate art in dresden nine hundred thirty seven. the last british just came i live in. america and it's. only confidant is his favorite aunt elizabeth who has schizophrenia. i suppose. it's sure. the mental confusion of kurt's aunt is her death sentence elizabeth becomes a victim of nazi ideology women like her belong in asylums. sebastian coe who plays the monstrous doctor who later sent her to the gas chambers donna's mark tells the suppressive story with much path as a family story. i thought it was intriguing to show how intertwined perpetrators and victims were within a family because ultimately that's what it was like in the whole of germany i mean if you see germany as one big family perpetrators and victims were extremely intertwined and at the same time the historical background is also told as the history of art to. fast forward to post-war dressed and kurt now played by tom shelling is living in communist east germany and studying art he falls in love with a fellow student who reminds him of his murdered and. the life. sphinx next to his or her that soon moves in with allie and discovers that her father is the very nazi doctor who sent kurt's aunt to her death after nine hundred forty five he hushes up his nazi past seamlessly pursuing his career in east germany kurt becomes his son in law and as a hermit you have to be careful and he. is going to need a good sign. and i'm not sure that oscar matched. that i believe. most watched most of the best as i. the thing to sniff as if he thinks it's just a phase when he sees this little artist who he doesn't take seriously at all who he totally underestimates who has no power he's just a student painting pictures for him it's just a question of time until his daughter realizes this too hard to type and he's still thinking in a league terms from a position of superiority then at some point he sees that it's bigger than that but he doesn't expect him to get in his way to. be defeated and kurt can't develop as an artist and in nine hundred sixty eight he and ellie flee to west germany i've been wrecked. kurt wants to study at the dusseldorf academy the center for modern art and his you professor is pretty unconventional. and i'll get us to magazine assess that. there. is actually what it's really. is that the. the film is fiction but inspired by great artists of the time such as joseph boys who revolutionized arch and awareness in post-war germany. on the street boys did not distinguish between man and art he declared meant to be a work of art that was an essential component to his understanding of art and he believed that our can anticipate what still lies beyond the reach of the human mind . curt finds his style his paintings are photo realistic yet alien much like those by the successful contemporary artist gary hart who stuck his aunt was killed by the nazis while his father in law was a nazi gun ecologist who carried out the forced sterilization of women. parliamentary system leading from elements from get out of this life became the starting point for this film that's your point. but then i created my own path and story from there. because i find fiction somehow becomes more real and true when it isn't tethered to pure facts and real life events. a noble ambition but honest mark wanted to much displeased decades of german history and love story and art theory into a three hour film. the results doesn't quite add up despite many strong scenes and strong performances. that sent from ops twenty one this week but before we go if you're in berlin be sure to drop by the. video installation at the hamburger bahnhof gallery the artist won the national gallery prize last october our work is poetic hypnotic for provoking definitely worth saying join us next week for more arts and culture until then good bye on talf it is a. bully. to . have. you romance finally the feeling was all my divine instruction nothing else could change will celebrates forty years as a unit scope world heritage site osman see threads fashion label all showing up close heads in paris daring maneuvers drag races get fun stuff and be a professional. bored bored bored bored bored. tear up at the more everybody camp there's a terrible 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so catastrophic. there watching t w news coming to you from berlin we'll be back again at the top of the hour with another update omarion evans teen from all of us in the newsroom thanks for watching. state by state. the liveliest. the most traditional. any time. check in with a web special. take a tour of germany find state. dot com. and for. language courses. video. any time. you. lose. hello and welcome to a special and binge of the series edition of q no we are mad about movies but we are also serious series junkies. small screen drama is booming with more serious than ever before being produced in countries all around the world many are finding global audiences germany has secured its slice of the cake that lavishly produced a bit on palin is just one of a host of german shows enjoying international acclaim. the german capital berlin is being explored as a versatile location by a growing number of productions and it's not just the roaring twenty's the city's more recent past and its present are also being mined for series gold beilin is ready for its close up. seen as a magnet for a visit from all over the world a new series celebrates the city's infamous nightlife it's called feet which is also the name of the main character around the series spence. techno clubs have given germany a brand new image going this is the american market one it's become a real selling point and for berlin the club scene is probably the main source of revenue after historical sites we have a very open liberal sexually permissive nightlife and club scene which is extremely liberal also when it comes to drugs. and the serious the clubs of the scene of all sorts of heinous crime murder illegal operations on refugees and organ trafficking. immediate recruit speeds and a bit to fight organized crime a series shows an ecstasy fueled darkseid that says here to atlanta to the south to the chasms that open up in everyone a very very deep and that goes for all the people we meet in the series we always said he says the night and emilia is the day and i love the night very much until eleven o'clock in the evening i'm. a good jew thirds of this series takes place at night and night is full of color and the day is grey but it's doesn't get much sleep. blocks is a series set and a different island that follows gangland boss and drug lord tony hamadi and the lebanese clan he rules over in a multicultural just part of noise current. figure jobs on. the series is gritty and realistic it even starts some real life locals some with criminal records of their own soldiers and an iconic. number who did. there's a range of george clinton deutschen. four blocks exposes the inner workings of the klan and makes the city look like an older version of the bronx a broken down city where the authorities struggle to cut. him out of this forty second fight in this would. get back to our best humanity and their lives languish and have to really kind of piece it does he feel about. four blocks is one of the most authentic series on the market right now it's a brutal visually stunning and somewhat terrifying portrayal of life in a problem district of the capital. flight. path in berlin also features in torch on the eighty six that i was if an east german spy in exile in south africa wants to go home with two. hundred folks but i just love to plant god did it and who can get it out but i'm completely. it was a chance i had to the ass and stuff so yes that in the first series concentrated on the german german conflict within the cold war even the most we now see more of the global dimension sameem. called it's an action packed series with east and west facing off. the lens behind the wall from the communist perspective as part of the push. is a political issue so it's additional if you live in the city and the script was written by an american who is having a little distance from the subject may have helped and i'm talking. to my friends. and to. stand out as that's not an issue long and i don't think it's far enough in the past yet for german to approach the subject with this light touch tone that i. need and kind. and this is what the notes like in the u.s. production the city as a haven for whistleblowers and money gates pursued by a cia very at home on german soil nobody is safe you claim to speak english common karmas. fighting in the. modern day berlin as a hub for agent and distance alike haps this isn't so far from the truth. now to a series actor who has made the german capital his home when he's not jetting around the world on a variety of very different assignments tom for the show up will be familiar to many juju a key role in u.s. series game of thrones now he's starring in a new german series based on both parents and oscar nominated one nine hundred eighty one movie thus but we caught up with the serious star in belle it. is not too well known on the streets of berlin but tom daschle has already made a name for himself a bald. he's played in no less than three u.s. productions to critical acclaim. now he's starring in a t.v. version of the classic film dust pool to set in the german submarine and world war two little. clique russia is chilling as an s.s. officer. often shocks much as to who's a cohort of course. the actor loves playing baddies. does it a sebastian's you have to have this or. ever like them or unfortunately i've experienced too often that the goodies of boring so i don't have anything against playing more ambivalent characters and be violent to concoct a it's a sheer change in the most expensive series of all time scale of thrones place you can have a secretive killer a man without a face. he was might find. he was noble. if you are. the system for knowing. you were still someone. this marks. a maternity to me because i really like series because you have the possibility to explore a character and a role in more detail and more depth so you're off you know for certain. whether in hollywood or germany tom daschle has gives one hundred percent every time a serious task on the way out. and finally a look behind the scenes of the international series world where all the news stories coming from and with increasingly intense competition between streaming services will it be continued boom or bust for the series we've got ten on a summit of series movers and shakers to try and find some answers. the european t.v. drama lab in. a meeting place for independent produces television stations as well the so-called show runners to not only script series but to read does well. go wrong carlson michael romanoff he said he was of ronald chipping in for romanoff i'm from a lot more more serious a flooding the market and networking has become. the premium portions in this overheated high caliber world which devours both money and manpower. the biggest trend in american television is is just but there's a lot of it right now in twenty seven here in america there were four hundred maybe seven scripted television series which was last year at all time high is probably growing and when i love to see people used to look down on series it wasn't so long ago that they reclaim their status as the pinnacle of what t.v. can do. to them in europe started with nordic high quality crime drama from scandinavia which was dark and disturbing. sash and desolate landscapes nordic more focused on martha's twisted characters broken families and human despair the genre became hugely popular around the world . we just told our stories from the point of view that is very danish and they were true true who we are i think we are still trying to find stories that comes from within our country and for the you know nature of. southeastern europe the german remaining in co-production hackable centers on hackers and organized cybercrime across several european countries hackers and barely out of bed diapers but already hacking german banks. streaming sites complaint to get the best european stories. 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that technology. transforming the long. before. the second season of our documentary series. join german founders. more. starts november twenty fourth w. . hello and welcome to a special and the series edition of kino we are mad about movies but we are serious series junkies. small screen drama is booming with more serious than ever before being produced in countries all around the world many are finding global audiences germany has secured its slice of the cake that lavishly could have been on palin is just one of a host of german shows enjoying international acclaim. the german capital berlin is being explored as a versatile location by a growing number of productions and it's not just the roaring twenty's the city's more recent past and its present are also being mined for series gold. is ready for its close up. seen as a magnet for raiders from all over the world a new series celebrates the city's infamous nightlife it's called feet which is also the name of the main character 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sleep. loss is a serious threat and a different. it follows guidelines balsam drug lord tony hamadi and the lebanese clan he rules over in a multicultural district of north korea. trying to compile trouble. just series is pretty and realistic even start some real life locals some with criminal records of their own so we're just going to kind of. there's a range of. large london deutschen. four blocks exposes the inner workings of parkland and makes the city look like an old version of the bronx a broken down city where the authorities struggle to carve. this focus they could find in this were to. get back to. that so and their lives languish and have to stop every piece of the killers from out of which. four blocks is one of us to a frantic series on the market right now it's a brutal visually stunning and somewhat terrifying portrayal of life in a problem district of the capital. patty in berlin also features in torch and eighty six that is it an east german spy in exile in south africa. he wants to go home with two. hundred trucks because palm print is left to the plant counted it and he can dig it out but i'm probably going. to muster the title to the ass and stuff that in the first series concentrated on the german german conflict within the cold war even we now see more of the global dimension sameem. it's an action packed series with east and west facing off. pullin behind the wall from the communist perspective as part of the push here. is a bit of a close to the traditional view live this year the script was written by an american peers having a little distance from the subject may have helped her not talking. to me. and putting. it and got us that's not in this long and i don't think it's far enough in the past yet for german to approach the subject with this slight touch tone that i wish to mankind. and this is what the looks like in the us production the city as a haven for whistleblowers and money gates pursued by a cia very at home on german soil nobody is safe to cling to sleeping to. common karmas. fighting. for a man. modern day berlin as a hundred agents and diffidence alike haps this isn't so far from the truth. now to a series actor who has made the german capital his home when he's not jetting around the world on a variety of very different assignments tom for the show up will be familiar to many juju a key role in u.s. series game of thrones now he's starring in a new german series based on both parents and oscar nominated one nine hundred eighty one movie sports we caught up with the serious star invalid. cuse not too well known on the streets of berlin yet but tom brushy a has already made a name for himself of the world he's played in no less than three u.s. productions to critical acclaim. now he's starring in a t.v. version of the classic film dust pool to set on the german submarine and world war two little league russia is chilling as an s.s. officer. often shot smart so as to produce a cohort of course. the 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oh by the. numbers about. love and respect. this is from burlesque teresa mayes bret's a diplomacy the british prime minister is meeting the german chancellor and other european leaders today as she works to salvage her bread's a deal that's after postponing a parliamentary vote in the face of overwhelming opposition. also coming up breaking his silence after four weeks of on grass the french president announces reforms that admits to making mistakes almost all the successful and except my share of responsibility i may have given you the feeling that i wasn't concerned that i help other priorities i also know that i've heard some of you with my statements it would be nice if you saw. him on one mccall is hoping to see was the best protests that have drawn the country into turmoil but will his concessions be enough. and the bail hearing for aggressive while wait chief financial officer mung when joel continues the outcome threatens to further aggravate already tense u.s. china top. i'm sumi so much kind of thank you for joining us britain's prime minister true some may will meet a german chancellor angela merkel in berlin today may is fighting for her political survival after delaying a parliamentary vote on her breakfast. well she hopes european leaders will give assurances that will sawston opposition to the deal at home in leaders have called a meeting for thursday to discuss the crisis and say they are stepping up preparations for a hard for exit i view lost control of a difficult day for to resume a britain's embattled prime minister are this and very carefully to what has been said in this chamber and was she had hopes her draft breaks it deal on how the u.k. leaves the e.u. would somehow get through parliament or. just this house wants to deliver bricks it. i. but it's not our style does it want to do so through reaching an agreement with the e.u. if the answer is yes and i believe that is the answer with a majority of this house then we all have to ask ourselves whether we're prepared to make a compromise politicians of all stripes around grey with theresa may there were loud calls for how to quit the prime minister is trying to buy herself one last chance to save this deal if she doesn't take on board the fundamental changes required then she must make way for those who can. while m.p.'s passionately debated inside parliament well side parliament pro and anti brett say demonstrators they're squabbling representative of the mood of the nation many people have problems with may's draft breaks it deal nearly everyone dislikes have proposed border arrangement between ireland and northern ireland the so-called backstop it guarantees that the only land border between the u.k. and the e.u. will remain open something everybody wants but under the. draft agreement northern ireland will behave as if it was still part of the e.u. in terms of trade and the movement of people this would either effectively create a new board within the u.k. or else the whole of the u.k. would have to keep e.u. trade conditions both of these options raise fierce opposition among break city is everyone seems a bit fed up. i'm not sure they could be dealing with it anywhere really i think they think. they've been really clear about. more than during it's i mean the point it's. hard to get it or i don't think anyone expects to get to really understand hard and it's making pretty. good she's just trying to live it and look at the hands towards and she herself is what my social. norm norm would have been towards your. interest. may now heads to european capitals in a frantic to rescue have breaks in our. well ireland's prime minister lee of our car has commented on may's push for additional concessions from the e.u. here's what he had to say oh i can only say what i said earlier we've already offered a lot of concessions along the way we ended up with the buck stop with this with all agreements because help all the red lines of the u.k. laid out on the way this is about all agreements which are supporting twenty eight member states it's not possible to open up any one aspect of this without opening up all aspects of the greek i've no difficulty with you know statements that clarify what's in there which all agreements but no statement of clarification on contradicts what's in the drug agreement. right let's get some perspective on the story we have derek scally a correspondent for the irish times newspaper here in berlin and again heard first from deed of you business with the economic aspect of the story i want to start with you derek we heard the irish prime minister there essentially ruling out any changes to the agreement there do you see any path forward for theresa may and that with this parliament it's very hard to see i mean we're almost into this is emotional territory this is not reality anymore this is i often talk of it as post a period of stress disorder i think you know it's this is both written this is about internal british politics and i think even people in dublin who understand how the british public political system take they're really starting to see as somebody said in our newspaper this morning this is like a briggs it's for by the marx brothers i mean there is no necessarily any logic anymore in there so britain and are they but wong a good deal on is hugely dependent on this they will do anything they can do what they have to is reopen this because we're three months away and we've had two hundred years of this so starting to go back into the detail again would be disastrous and astri said may said yesterday if anyone else has any better ideas let them step forward she has done the best she could and i think mr rudd current of them will be doing all the hands to support or not because she's the person who has to do with ok a break that script written by the marx brothers how are the markets reacting to all of this. last have been business as. not have the sterling slumped to its lowest level since april twenty seventh in this nearly twenty months the euro also extended its losses the footsie one hundred is down as well even if not really significantly but it has been hit but interesting the there of a statement here from the c.b.i. that's the body representing british industry more than one hundred ninety thousand businesses all across all over britain and strong words they say that this is yet another blow for companies desperate for clarity they say the country resists lighting towards a national crisis and that politicians on both sides of the channel need to show some leadership basically saying get on with it do decide something but get on with it this unclarity is this this uncertainty is just poison for the british economy and derek how would a chaotic brags that affect ireland well both sides of the border would be it i will turn of our own northern ireland trade goes to the republican the south of those trucks to be sitting around on a hard border because a hard break that means a hard border and them for our land for the republican violent almost forty percent of our trade off our goods is with trade is with continental europe so they go through what they call the long bridge which is trucks driving through. go driving through a ferry and true england if those trucks can't get through are fresh meat are fresh dairy products oysters. destined for ad department stores in france won't get there in time they'll be gone off sitting on the border so it would be disastrous for for on to be disastrous for northern ireland and that's why we need a deal and we need it sooner rather than later and the prospects not looking good there tell me from the irish times and got it all for some day to be business thank you both. so what kind of reception can't reason they expect in berlin later today let's bring in our political correspondent kate brady she is standing by for us covering this story for us kate what does theresa may want from chancellor merkel today and will she get it well soon interest in may is coming to berlin today in a somewhat desperate bid to win concessions from german chancellor angela merkel and the german government but whether or not this trip will indeed be worthwhile will be the big question later this afternoon and the german chancellor has said on several occasions that germany regrets the decision made by the u.k. back in two thousand and sixteen but when it comes to the threats it negotiations anglo-american has said time and time again that this is a joint venture and that it doesn't come down to individual e.u. states and it's also worth bearing in mind that machall did say last month when they still came through she welcomed that deal but she said as well at the same time that there was no question that there would be more bret's that negotiations if this deal where fail to be ratified by the u.k. polman so it's very unlikely that we'll see a u. turn from merkel on those comments today here in berlin when the u.k. parliament hasn't even yet been able to vote on that deal so very unlikely to reason may's going to go back to london later today with exactly what she wanted to hear from anglo-american or at our political correspondent kate brady thank you very much. to france now where president de manuel mccall has announced a series of financial measures in hopes of defusing the so-called yellow vest revolt what started as a demonstration against the planned fuel tax has grown into a mass movement against the president and his policies with protests at times turning violent speaking to the nation mccall said he was partly to blame but it's not clear yet if he's managed to appease the protesters. after weeks of under arrest emanuel mccaw is moving to publicly confront what's become the greatest crisis of his presidency on monday he huddled with trade unionists and business leaders in paris in search of a way to call the yellow vests. as he addressed the nation for the first time over the protests a president known for bold words tried to cut a humble figure. and upon this that response would be except my share of responsibility i may have given you the feeling that i wasn't concerned that i had other priorities i also know that i've hurt some of you with my statements to be seen. by me. when one falls we want a france where one can live in dignity through one's work and on this point we have moved too slowly i want to intervene quickly and concretely on this issue. he said his government would raise the minimum wage by some one hundred euros a month and exempt overtime from taxes pensioners would also receive a tax break but many in the yellow vest movement remain skeptical. very nice speech but i don't trust him at all and. i think he's getting scared he's feeling the heat and that's it he's lost all credibility and people don't trust him he's got to go. he took one first big step he has many more to take. of the minimum wage that's a good thing hundred years is very good. but it wasn't all concessions from the call he refused protesters demands to reinstate a wealth tax and said he'll push ahead with plans to overhaul the country's pension and unemployment system as for the yellow vests they've already announced new protests for this weekend no one knows whether the president's actions will prevent seems like these from playing out across france again. lisa lewis is following the story for us in paris and joins us lisa good morning to you we saw a man was back home made it make us some new and concrete concessions last night is that enough for the yellow vests protesters. well sue me it doesn't look like that really i mean there have been protests of some preachers have been saying you know this is a good first step you know understand what we want but it seems like the large majority of them is saying you know it's not enough he doesn't understand what you want pension is the more money we need higher unemployment benefits we need a redistribution of wealth and you know as you said in that package does it mean it . president in man mark karr has that he wouldn't green state a wealth tax that was abolished this year however there is one really interesting poll that was made late last night you know remember that up until now between two thirds and three quarters of the french a voice been saying you know we support the movement now there was one poll done last night asking the french do you want this movement to continue or not and fifty four percent of the french are set new so this might be a turning point although obviously that poll still needs to be confirmed by other polls or he said this was a significant address from a car he's been accused of not taking these protests seriously being aloof or arrogant he did sound conciliatory last night but will that help changes image and his popularity numbers. well. again i don't think it were you know that concerned there was a conciliatory tone yes of course he said i'm taking my share of the responsibility for this and although the situation this melendez has been accumulating for more than forty years by understand that haven't we acted in the right way. and yet it doesn't look like protesters feel that they that the majority of them at least feel that he understands what they need they are complaining that he started to speech by saying you know we're going to prosecute days you have committed violent acts and who have looted shops etc now protesters are saying you know the president doesn't understand that if we are violent that this is that and that that is because actually we are so desperate and were really struggling to make ends meet so there seems that these two sides protesters and and the president still don't really understand each other lisa let's talk about this protest movement the yellow vests has their success boosted the radical fringes of politics in france. if you look at the polls it doesn't look like it you know marie le pen from the far right or wrong you can all sean from the far left they're not they not gaining a lot of support amongst the protesters but their ideas the protesters ideas really sometimes look like ideas from the far right of the far left now asking for a referendum for example on government policy they're asking for more independence from the european union because they say they think that the european union is imposing a liberal a market orientated model that the french don't want so in that sense yes it has actually reinvigorated at least the ideas of the far left and the far right. as lisa was reporting for us from paris thank you very much. let's take a look now at some other stories making news around the world u.s. agents have arrested dozens of religious activists rallying to support a caravan of central american migrants more than four hundred took part in the protests in san diego they want the u.s. to stop detaining him to a point in my quince and to welcome the caravan for the stock cross the border in tijuana. in afghanistan at least four people have been killed and six others wounded in a suicide attack outside kabul on members of the country's main intelligence agency the deaths come amid an upsurge in taliban violence against afghan security forces . three people have died in weather related incidents after heavy snow fell in parts of the southeastern u.s. the snow cost treacherous road conditions and left thousands of homes in north carolina without power up to forty six centimeters of snow was measured in west virginia many residents were caught off guard by the and. now access to health care is a human right but not a given in africa many cities fail to deliver one example is hargeisa and somaliland it is the largest city in the breakaway region in the northwest of somalia in hargeisa there are twelve hospitals for more than a million people that means one doctor per ten thousand people it also means that the bedridden and the poor have almost no chance to receive medical attention now a new kind of clinic is trying to change that young doctor. has come up with a solution bringing the health care to the people between the seventeen he sets up the mobile health care service. for some examples of such challenges include people who get. to six it meant expensive hospital fees for people. and. it was because. we dean and his team visit peace places homes where a body needs support it sounds like an expensive service right but we feel of charge next to his job as a medical assistant so the patient only has to pay for his transport and a medication. i had a ball to the service was through social media belong to him i wanted to visit a doctor but i never managed to find the tapes but they have come to me instead and good the job done. for someone like. this service is invaluable get any votes nation appointment for his son at the public hospital was almost impossible but thanks to paul he can get treated at home and it cost the head of the prize. seeing the good he's doing in the community some local clinics have lend support and allow. for free he has a degree in biomedical sciences on the verge of medicine but some people are still a little suspicious of the service. even though her coming out. of the big issues we faced since we started this idea is that understanding the general public of what we do use the question how someone can see a doctor get tested or be vaccinated. the moco team is made up of dedicated young doctors nurses and pharmacists and they all went for free part of the our youth outreach program is to visit schools for the general checkups he is a qualified mez she volunteers with because she knows how much people would need this reliable service. but no to that much that i am one of the key programs we fulfill that is to voluntarily treat better than patients children in schools madrasas and maternity have clinics as well as patients who come from towns miyu detroit at the bottom and they get out much better. we dean's organization goes some way to plugging big gaping holes in highgate says health care it's relies on the dedication of its members and pop in the clinics to offer affordable rates to do so in need. they said it would never sell but more than forty years after its release this queens six minute rock anthem bohemian rhapsody has broken a new record. the seventy's rock classic has become the most streamed song from the twentieth century record company universal music group says the tune as been played on line one point six billion times around the world surpassing. the likes of nirvana now fucking scary and switch on tonight by guns and roses. and her and get her to see what business now and get ahead of the u.s. and china stop giving each other the cold shoulder and clive erupts in the yes but they started talking again that's a good sign during a phone call between the two sides officials discussed chinese purchases of u.s. cultural products among other issues still unclear is whether the recent arrest of y.y. executive men when joe was part of the coma situation the case against her will be watched closely by both sides the forty six year old executive with huawei one of the world's biggest smartphone companies and a symbol of chinese economic heft brought before a court the bail hearing in vancouver to determine if mung one joke can go free while her case proceeds it continues today after monday's adjournment her lawyer argues high tech surveillance and a twenty four hour security detail be allowed to keep her out of jail during proceedings. u.s. prosecutors say mung used a shell company for a while ways dealings with iran misleading banks into approving millions of dollars in transactions they violated sanctions arrested in canada she faces extradition to the u.s. . on monday her lawyer said huawei sold the alleged shell company sky com years earlier but the paper trails complicated sky com was bought in two thousand and seven by a company emery shows a known tax haven for ownership records are opaque the case against mung is now set to unfold against the backdrop of a tense u.s. china trade dispute a dispute many hoped was approaching a resolution but that was before joe's arrest. said all i phone models remain on sale in china and that's despite a chinese court decision that in the sale of most of the american tech companies handsets the ruling yesterday was from to buy a lawsuit from u.s. chip maker qualcomm the company says apple infringed on one or two of its rights and swung regarding photographs resizing of the other related to the op some managed on the top story about six models between the i phone six s. and the ten apple stocks drop one point three percent the chinese market is worth about eleven billion dollars a quarter of all stocks rose nearly three percent on the news. well for a closer look at the financial fall in both of the cases we just heard about i'm joined by kathryn young investment director in hong kong at fidelity international catherine qualcomm case appears to be escalating in couple with huawei issue and the unresolved trade issues going on or investors losing confidence that so yesterday we've had this uncertainty regarding trade it's really overshadowed the market especially in china sentiment on the ground in china and we really don't expect this uncertainty to be resolved anytime soon so investors should be prepared for more volatility having said this a lot of the risk when you look at the downturn in chinese equities in the price of said installed has now been factored in. it is china's tech sector going to take a real hit if we look at all these developments. the chinese tech sector is seeing massive amounts of innovation under what we call from a government perspective the made in china twenty twenty five strategy so we look at the tech companies whether the listed companies whether they're the unicorns all that the companies are coming to market there is a lot of competition in this space a lot of innovation a lot of already so whilst tech sex tech stocks have sold off here to date the opportunities set as long as those companies can still maintain margins the earnings visibility contained somewhat of a mo to all their pricing edge some of these names of the thing very attractive in terms of long term growth compound is from an investor's perspective is the government in china taking the right measures. when we look at the government policy since june there's been this big message from a government perspective about accommodative easing all policies both from a monetary perspective as well as a fiscal perspective so a lot of the easing we've seen in terms of monetary should start flowing into the real economy at some point if we're still seeing this weaker economy and data come the second half of next year then you could see further sort of easing but what's really the risk of china is that they over stimulate the economy to a time when the u.s. risk is that they overtighten so that's what we're keeping a close eye on but at the moment it's all about stability sentiment wise on the ground for chinese investors and chinese businesses. in hong kong thank you very much. time on a fracture a good ship has pulled out of venezuela citing the country's ballooning economic crisis as the reason one thousand two hundred workers have been laid off a note posted on the gates said the. operations good paying workers a severance package including ten. years of financial turmoil and struggles with u.s. sanctions have seen companies such as can believe top abandonment as well as hyper inflation has made most business conduct in the local currency unsustainable. and that's all we have business here's a reminder of the top stories we're following. british prime minister to resume his meeting with the dutch and german leaders today as she tries to salvage of drugs a deal that's often postponing a parliamentary vote on the divorce agreement with brussels the e.u. will hold a special summit on thursday but the deal is not up for renegotiation. the french president has announced a series of financial measures as he seeks to diffuse full weeks of violent protests across the city possible political the public imposed a minimum wage increase as well as tax concessions. and that's all we have this is all good news don't forget you can always get your news on the go just download our from google play all from the apple stall that will give you access to all the latest news from around the world push notifications for any breaking news we. can also use. to send us photos and. that's it more news of the top of the hour. take off. drummer in a black forest last friday the flashlights take with them as an enslaved tag for. dolly blues for shelter stallman gets no points and bragging rights meant to finally taken go. take off next on the lead. we buy cheap clothes and discard them soon after. fast 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>> harold: do you return -- with the basket, you return it or leave it? >> dana: my groceries are delivered. just kidding, of course i returned the cart, what do you think? >> harold: exclamation point, how do you feel about this? b3 we have to remind everybody, she is a psychologist. psych majors. anyway. you know what this is? another example of child privilege. i can't do this decent thing or do this certain responsibility because i have kids and they need protection. i need an imaginary kid, and then i need to use the threat of kidnapping whenever i need it. i was going to do that promo shoot for fox, but, you know, i can't have somebody kidnapping gg jr. so i'm going to keep him with me. he only feels safe at the golf course because i can see the threat early, so that's where i'll be. see? all you little people with child privilege, oh, i'm taking paternity leave, maternity -- i'm going to be late for work. >> jesse: wait a second, i

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According to the doctors, the mother and all the babies are doing good and are said to be healthy. - Woman Gives Birth To 5 Healthy Babies By Normal Delivery In Kishanganj, Bihar

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