children killed in the span of three weeks. we believe. it on that note, my friend, ayman, thank you for your time and thoughts and perspective on all this. evening.social now it is time for the last word, with lawrence o donnell. good evening, lawrence. we re gonna be joined tonight by tennessee state representative justin pearson, who, as it happens, is a graduate of bowdoin college in maine. so he has been really struck by what happened in maine, and the mass murder there. lewiston, very close to bowdoin college. and he came to our attention because the school shooting in tennessee that he was trying to bring to the attention of the state legislature and that actually, as people recall, got him expelled. and he of course worked his way back in and got elected again, but he is here to consider what this means, what it feels like to him to have that hit close to his college all the way it hit close to home in tennessee. i m eager to hear on justin pearson on this. when
the next president is likely to have two new supreme court nominees. two more. he already has appointed two that have been very negative in terms of the rights of individuals. the supreme court has never been as out of kilter as it is today. i mean, never. i have taught constitutional law for nine years. this guy knows more about it then most. the fact of the matter is, there has never been a court this far out of step. joining us to discuss is our and missy legal analyst. we have a host of the justice matters podcast. welcome you with a happy father s day. you too. glenn, were you surprised by these comments from president biden? he is pretty forward leaning but he is calling it the way not only he sees it but i think the way most americans see it. we seem to have a supreme court, at least a block of justices, who are not honest brokers of the law. i knew we would talk about the supreme court. one thing i want to remind myself of from the washington post reporting
president can be immuned from prosecution even for ordering a murder. a president who ordered seal team six to assassinate a political rival who was not impeached would be subject to criminal prosecution. if you were convicted first. so your answer is? my answer is qualified yes. and just let sink in. an argument that would let a pr get away with murder. if that is up. joining me now is the former prosecutor who is an nbc legal analyst and host of the justice matters podcast. also with me, mark joseph stern, senior writer for slate. glen, mark, thank you both for being here. mark, you re here at the table, so we ll start with you. you were initially skeptical of the manhattan district attorney s case, but you have come around. what s changed her mind about the importance of this trial? well, you know, over the
leading off our discussion tonight, glenn krishna, former federal prosecutor and host of justice matters podcast. none was there for this morning s oral arguments in the courtroom. also andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and former chief of the eastern district of new york. co-host of the msnbc podcast, prosecuting donald trump. glenn, you are there. we start with you. it was exciting enough for the hour in 15 minutes that we were able to listen to it. what was it like in the room? what did it seem like it was like for defendant trump? . it seemed a little tense and i will say i am not a political pundit or expert i don t pay one on tv but it was kind of jarring to see the leading candidate for the republican nomination for president, a former president united states, colombian and behave entirely like a defendant and not like a
donald trump is the single stupidest person ever to sit in the counsel table in that courtroom, but even donald trump understood that in that room h, is immunity dream was shattered by a judge donald trump does not believe should be a citizen of this country. leading off our discussion tonight, glenn krishna, former federal prosecutor and host of justice matters podcast. glenn was there for this morning s oral arguments in the courtroom. also andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and former chief of the criminal division of the eastern district of new york. co-host of the msnbc podcast, prosecuting donald trump. they are both and msnbc legal analysts. glenn, you are there. we start with you. it was exciting enough for the hour and 15 minutes that we were able to listen to it. what was it like in the room? what did it seem like it was like for defendant trump?