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Tactic naep how bad? >> well, listen within its a huge clash between the senate intelligence committee and the cia. the underlying assumption is a lot of stuff didnt work very well, you know. some of it was on the line. some was interrogation. some probably went torture. but it looks like it didnt get us very far. its all coming out now. >> it didnt get us much now. interesting to see what it will do with the cia and the fbi. >> and whether they are still talking to dianne feinstein. it could be...