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Defending why we are funding such an agency at all. right now were seeing death. right now were seeing a violation of human rights. this is systematic. it is wrong. it is anti american. >> martha: here now charlie hurt opinion editor and david brown former senior advisor and a democratic strategist. david brown let me chart with you. according to go our information she just voted at part of the last funding measure to support ice. so you know she certainly seems to be against this horrible inhum...