sean's back on monday. "the ingraham angle" is up next. have a terrific night. >> welcome to washington. i'm laura ingraham and this is "the ingraham angle". we have a spectacular show for you tonight. you wouldn't know it watching msnbc, but there was another great economic report tonight. we'll expose the blatant bias when it comes to exploring the president's accomplishments. that in a few moments. plus, there's a new craze that involves jumping out of a moving car. what? raymond arroyo will be here to explain it in the fridayay follies. plus, some black pastors are facing backlash for meeting with president trump. unbelievable. two of them will be here with me. but first, resisting for all the wrong reasons. that's the focus of tonight's angle.
Laura Ingraham shines a spotlight on everyday Americans and examines how their lives are affected by politics at the federal, state and local level.
butt in an age of trump, let's face it, we have seen what that all could entail. and here's the mayor of new orleans on what she hopes will happen next. >> let's bring about the change that we know our people need. we need economic justice. we need criminal justice reform. we need health and environmental justice. we need racial equality, because we understand that no one matters if everyone doesn't matter. >> no one matters if everyone doesn't matter. i guess that's a double negative. that means no one matters, right? ohi' my gosh, i'll diagram that later. but the real question is this: why fight so hard to whip up change for an economy that's actually working for the people at every level of the economy? let's just take a look at what we're talking about here. black, hispanic, and non-high school graduate unemployment are now all at record lows.
job growth is also exploding across the country. we have more people employed now than at anytime in our history.o wages are up 2.7% from last year. the housing market is making a massive comeback. and get this. manufacturing jobs are back. oh, how many times did barack obama say that couldn't happen? it's the strongest manufacturing job market in 20 years, despite what all those naysayers told us. so what's the bottom line? there's a glaring disconnect between the so-called resistance and just regular americans who want to work for a living. and those people are revelling in trump's economic renaissance. just listen to some of my radio callers this week. >> i work for the largest shipping company in the world. i'm an outside sales rep for them. and i'm up 40, 60% this year. i think everybody sees a difference. everywhere i go people talk about it. and i think it's real. >> my family has a construction
they've become basically the party of perpetual grievance and complaint. but how long will that actually play among an electorate that is so much more prosperous and from what i can gather, so much more optimistic than they've been in years? who will want to change that or reversee that? as for the netroots, i think they can use some water. the kool-aid has gone to their head. this is why i call them nut roots. and that's the angle. joining us now for reaction is florida attorney general pam bondi. she's a a republican. and teslan vigoro who worked on the bernie sanders national campaign. let's start with you, teslan, i'm trying to figure out, as just a person, forget republican or conservative, how democrats argue against an economy that's helping so many who's been kicked so far down on the economic ladderke for so long
whether it's unemployment, wages going up, optimism, opportunity for small businesses? why would you want to change that? >> that's the problem, laura. they're not arguing it and having the debate to talk about the issues. democrats have been playing platform hopscotch for the last several years, which is why we lost the house and senate. going from the center, first it was all about being in the center with clinton, then it went to the left with sanders. in 2020, they'll be back in the center. i'm here t to say it's time they pick a side or step aside. decide which platform you're actually going to push and how you're going to push that narrative. it's ok to talk about president trump and what they don't like about trump, but they do have to be able to sell the message to take the american people further than where we are right now. getting into the debate on whether that was from the benefit of obama or whether it was from trump has nothing to do with what individuals are dealing with right now which is how arels we going to be able to move america forward? that's what you're seeing with the divide between themo far let and the middle of the democrat party.
so important in my state, is at a low of 4.5. the lowest it was ever under president obama was 5.4. as you said about kids that have dropped out of high school, the record fell 5.1%. how great is that unemployment! so i don't understand how they wouldd not root for the success of america, because when you do, it's rooting for the success of all of us. >> laura: tesla, i want to play a sound bite for you about what the democrats are missing. let's watch.>> >> their message to me and the five and a half million americans who are demanding donald trump's impeachment is that it's bad politics, it's off message, and it will galvanize the republicans. not a single person in the senate democratic caucus has shown the common sense or the
sense of right and wrong to support impeach him. not one. >> laura: is that what the democrats really need to rally around? impeachment? that'll turn people out to the polls? >> no, it won't turn people out to the polls. it does drive a lot of emotions, but to run complete campaign platforms on dumping trump is not going to speak to the heart of the voters. we have to remember, everybody -- i was an independent on the sanders campaign. i'm not a socialist so when people start believing that just because someone supported someone else prior to and think you're going to be able to talk on talking points that address that issue, they'll find me completely wrong.po you have to be able to speak about what you're for, and that's what the party is missing. >> laura: i think today, the number i saw was the african-american approval rating -- i believe this is correct -- today, and it's a daily snapshot isi at 29%. a couple of months a i believe it was at 15%. pam, i mean, if -- if bombed trump can move the a african-american opinion -- if
donald trump can move the african-american opinion, even if he moves itic 5%, that'll bea significant plus for the republicans and i think it would be good for everyone. the idea that just because you're one skin color, you have to vote for one party, to me it seems -- doesn't make any sense given how great the news are is forse african-americans. pam, the issue of impeachment. there's a lot of netroots enthusiasm for pushing the "i" word. >> they're just trying to inflame emotions. they're just trying to inflame emotions in the netroots conference. i was just here in tampa with the president. i rode in the car with him. i watched him and i watched ivanka. no one mentions that he just gave $1 billion in grants. he signed that into law. $1 billion for stem jobs.n for on the job training, for technical jobs. who's that help? that helps minorities that helps everyone in this country. >> laura: i don't think we'll
be able to pay that back. i hope we'll have the money for that i hope we'll be able to pay that back.ta i want to bring in howie curtis. howie, i mentioned at the top of the disconnect between the politicos and the far left, the everyday americans there's this one crazy moment today of many crazy moments on television involving our friend john meacham, historian and also chuck. seems like they've moved from invoking hitler as far as trump goes to nowit invoking another famous dictator, let's watch. >> it's simply a stalinist phrase for god's sake, to declare that a free press is the enemy of the people. it's in their self-interest to stop playing this totalitarian card. >> tonight i'm obsessed with. president trump's repeated stalin-era assertion. that the press is "the enemy of
the people." does he really believe that? >> laura: stehlin. is this working the stalin, hitler -- >> i guess the hitler thing wasn't polling well so they brought in josef stalin. i also think the president shouldn't refer to fake news. but the coverage is so one-sided. when journalists and commentators use the stalinist analogy and call the president unlimited, undermining world peace and danger to western civilization, they're lowering the discourse in precisely the way they accuse the president whom they detest. >> laura: josef stalin atrocities for fun on a friday. 25 million killed under stalin. additional 40 million killed often linked to him. had millions of people, of course, sent to labor camps, concentration camps and expanded the secret police and all sorts of other atrocities. it's patiently ridiculous. there's another moment today when all the good economic news came out when a number of
figures in the media were doing their best -- and it's unbelievable given the news to kind of downplay what's kind of happening on the economy. i want all of you to react. let's watch. >> 157,000, which is somewhat healthy but also disappointing. >> it shows a slowdown in hiring. >> this is not the strongest gain we've seen. just 2.7% year over year. this is a big problem for american workers. >> laura: a big problem for american workers. i want to go to you, pam. it's 2.7 year to year. it was flat under obama. we hadn't seen a median wage increase for i think 18 years. and it's tough. there's a lot of downward pressures on the economy. but this is good news and this is after revising numbers in may and june upward. they had to go back and reviseun those job numbers upward. so that was good news. in both prior proceeding months, they believe the number was bad for this month because of the toys 'r us. they lost a lot of jobs in
retail because of the toys 'r us closing, so that didn't help. does this seem transparent to you as it does to me? >> yeah, it does. i like the term fake news because that's what we're hearing and seeing every day. our economy has very strong footing right now. consumer spending is going up. that means creating more jobs. as a prosecutor, the more unemployed, i feel the fewer people committing crimes. it's great for our country. i do believe in the term fake news. yes, it's extremely transparent. when they have nothing to go on, that's what they go on, referring to our great president as hitler and stalin is unpatriotic and horrible. >> laura: and this gal, angela rye, was on with jason miller on cnnso, teslan, and they were discussing president trump and whether he was everyone's president or certain people's president. let's watch. >> i'm calling this process, this procedure is absolutely based on bigotry and fear mongering.
if you don't understand that your president announced his campaign by talking -- >> my president? he's our president, angela. >> not mine. not mine. i will never claim a bigot eve! >> laura: do you subscribe to that? he's not your president? do you like that approach to politics? i don't think i ever would dream of saying that. a i definitely didn't say that when president obama was president. he was our president. i disagreed with him on a lot, but he won the presidency, and he was an amazing campaigner and communicator. and i never took that away from him. but that's kind of the -- that's like the common parlance on the left now. he's not our president. >> saying he's not our president doesn't make it the reality. it doesn't make me lebron james. the reality is he's the president of the united states. to piggyback on pam's point,
as an employer who actually signed the front of the check in orlando, florida, i wish we would have had the economy we had to stop me from closing my business in 2012. i put over 300 people to work as temporary associates. most of the associates, pam, were people thatsi were second-chance citizens, people who got out of prison who actually wanted to be put to work when i was put out of business, we put out individuals that were on probation a lot of women in the shelters at the time. i was a two-time award winning business own we're the orlando business journal. those are the stories we don't hear about. those are the stories that affect small business and particularly african-american businesses who have went back into the community to do the hiring that maybe corporateco america cannot. i'm interested in the numbers. i'm interested into what could actually beri done specifically, african-americans which the democrat party still others that address which is why tom perez was on tour apologizing to women >> you're going to want to see a segment we do later about prison reform. they tried this about a year ago
with donald trump, that he's in declining mental capacity. amorosa is coming out with a book on that well. >> desperate for attention >> laura: this is what a host on nbc said this morning. >> a dangerous, blustering bigot on the stage last night is more borish and less connected to reality than he was 10 years ago. donald trump is not well and everyone close to him w says it. >> i think all of those adjectives don't help the left's position. and in' understand pundits going after president trump on immigration or putin but when the economic news is clearly very good for almost everyone -- there were pockets where it hasn't reached -- and you're trying to argue the skies are dark, that seems to me to be, you know, journalists almost rooting for a bad economy. the most appalling thing here, laura is when some of the journalists and commentators go after trump voters. they're yahoo!s and idiots.
that kind of hatred, they're smearing 63 million americans for voting for donald trump. that's even worse in my view than going after the president. >> laura: that's what they don't understand. they turned out to vote for trump because they know those folks look down on them. trump didn't. >> how condescending elite institutions, which includes the elite media are, when it comes to -- >> the forgotten men and women. fantastic panel. thank you for joining us tonight. >> why a former cia moscow station chief say john brennan and jim clapper are doing putin's bidding? the answer when we return.
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clapper's case that clapper's interference won the election to trump." senior intelligence officers know we speculate at our own peril.tr joining us now with reaction is lee smith, the real clear investigation reporter who wrote that piece. we're joined by former cia covert ops operator baker and "wall street "wall street [ indiscernible ] >> it seems a lot of conservative have seen what happened to john brennan and a lesser extent to james clapper. what else did you find in your reporting? >> there's a number of different things going on here. one of the key things is is that the american public is losing their con stannance right now when they see former intelligence chiefs like john brennan and james clapper get to tv and talk about the president. it enhances the idea and encourages the idea as president trump has said that these guys were up to no good that brennan
and clapper as well as othersrs including james comey and other intelligence officials were up to no good. >> laura: and there's a couple of moments over the last month or so that really jumped out at me where the criticism of the president -- well, it was particularly nasty it involves both clapper and brennan. let's watch. >> mr. trump is not sophisticated enough, unfortunately, to deal with these foreign leaders in a manner that is going to protect u.s. national security. >> this past weekend it's what a great case officer putin is. he knows how to handle an asset, and that's what he's doing with the president. lawyer lauer kimberly, for clapper to say that the president of the -- >> laura: kimberly, for the president to say that the president of the united states is an -- for clapper to say that the president of the united states is asset to vladimir putin?
>> yes, i mean, how can you look at these people and not view them as partisan? and that gets to lee's piece, which is you go back and look through the history of cia directors. you might not agree with all of their policies. they might have had someor critical words after they got out of office for a president here or there on a serious policy question. but these were serious cia directors who know how important it is to remain neutral in the office and allow americans to have confidence in the cia and its assessment. brennanou and clapper are destroying that. and it's why you have the fbi officials who privately confess so much concern about comey too and his comments since leaving office. >> laura: mike, the president has hit backwh and hit back hard when he does hit back, he's criticized for himself tarnishing the reputation of the intelligence agencies ands hurting theirir credibility. this was on july 17th what the president said. let's watch. o
>> president obama, along with brennan and clapper and the whole group that you see on television now probably getting paid a lot of money by networks. they knew about russia's attempt in interfere in the election in september and they totally burned it. >> laura: he's basically saying they did nothing. if hillary won, what would they have done? is the president wise to speak in those terms about the intel agencies or at least the past directors? >> i think we're in a different world here. i would like to see the president more circumspect, but that's not going to happen. i would like to see brennan and james clapper and others who came out of those senior positions dodo traditionally what's been done which is keep your yap shutt and hold your own counsel. look, brennan and the others have a right to say whatever they want to say. they've got that right. and clearly they're exercising it.th they don't have a right to a security clearance. and that is one action that the president is currently
considering is yanking those security clearances. those are given to them or remain with them as a courtesy. not just brennan but anyone coming out of a senior position. and frankly we should be overhauling the clearance process regardless. but i think, to lee's point in this article that you started with, yes, it is true that by talking the way that john brennan is talking and talking that james clapper is discussing, there are -- in a sense, they're furthering the russian objective which is essentially and always has been over decades to so discord and doubt and confusion. -- to sew discord and doubt and confusion. and when you have someone with that senior position come out and just speculate, as they are speculating. they don't have access to that information at this point in the game. it does serve to the russian objective. >> laura: lee, back to you.ga that does make the russians happy. they're a fraction of what they once were. their economy is dwarfed by
china. it's about the size of italy. still has nuclear weapons, but they're not the great power they once were. this gives them a sense of, "oh, look the whole country is locked down in a conversation about putin." >> absolutely and the idea that our former intelligence directors saying things that vladimir putin is a master case officer and look at how he's handling trump. what more could he ask for, praising putin, how he's handling the president, which is nonsense by the way. these guys are out there making ridiculous.case is >> laura: lee, yesterday we had, um, -- late yesterday, we had five top officials, national security intel officials come out in the briefing room. this big show of force to restate that russia did try to meddle, it continuing to try to interfere in our electoral politics and made this big show, and i guess i thought, well,
maybe the media would say, well, ok. this is for real now, but instead, the reaction was quite different. let's watch. >> the tale of two white houses: one where you know where the election is real and one where the opposite seems true. >> for some it's going to take more than one surprise briefing to convince them that what we heard today about cracking down on russia has the full backing of the president. >> that's just a pr stunt. >> that was a pr stunt. give me a break. yes. they got used! >> laura: kimberly! >> well, keep this in mind, laura.p anything the trump administration is doing to combat russia and its interference in our election is ten times more than the obama administration did during their tenure. remember, we didn't find out about this until after the fact. and there has been very critical reporting about how little this was taken seriously, at least not until the very end, and howt little was done to proactively warn candidates out there. in fact, they were kept in the dark so they couldn't try to
stop this from within their own campaigns. when you have this many intelligence officials out there making the claim, you clearly have people within the cia that, having seen what happened in 2016, are very much on the case. the media can choose to ignore that if they want, but the proof is in what's actually happening. >> laura: all i can say is they literally can do nothing right in the media's eyes. there's just nothing they can do. i mean, donald trump could have smacked vladimir putin in the faceth and tackled him and done like the clothes line wrestling thing and still wouldn't have been enough for the media great to have allo of you on tonight. a viral dance craze prompting serious warnings from police across the country. how the me too movement may be ruining the way you view t classic victims. our friday folly segment with arroyo next.
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>> i'm jackie ibanez in new york. 10-month investigation into the las vegas massacre concluded. officials find you no clear motive for the brutal attack that killed 58 people. the official number of people killed increased to 8 -- injured increased to 869. that was more people than listed in the january preliminary report. a shiite mosque during friday night prayers, attackers opened fire outside of guards outside of a mosque before rushing inside and detonating their explosives. this just days after 150 isis fighters turned themselves into afghan government forces. many of the militants were wounded in fighting there with taliban. both groups came to overthrow the western-backed government. isis taliban are bitter foes.
i'm jackie. back to laura ingraham. for all your headlines, log on to foxnews.com. >> it's friday, and you know what that means. ♪ a viral dancing sensation is sweeping the internet, but it's prompting serious warnings across the united states. fox news contributor raymond arroyo. what in the good lord's name is this? >> if you play your cards right, i'll send you a version of me taking up the "in my feelings" challenge.oo is a drake song a comedian named shiggy recorded himself in the street, there he is, dancing to the drake tune some know this is the kiki challenge. it's just you dance along to the drake song. well then, celebrities took it up like will smith. watch this >> laura: that's a good dancer. >> will smith got on the top of a paris landmark and started dancing along and then naturally which happens on the internet, everybody and their grandmother,
quite literally, got in on the act. they started jumping out of moving cars and then look at them, breaking legs, major fractures. fines are being imposed in florida and egypt and all over the world >> laura: how did they get from jumping out of cars part? how'd it go from thehe original video where he was a great dancer to jumping out of cars? >> because shiggy is a great dancer. he did it in the street. i have to show you this one. it's so sad, it's funny this one guy tries to do thisve, and he starts the move >> laura: good, very good. >> you'll see what happens here. [ laughter ] this was unbelievable. people are getting hit by cars. >> laura: he's ok. how is he ok? that looked really bad. >> peopleca are being airlifted. one girl, 18 years old -- >> laura: he said it would do it again in an interview, by the way. >> an 18-year-old iowa teen was airlifted out and learning to walk again. there are better ways to express yourself on the internet than
doing the shiggy. >> laura: i'm doing the shannon bream, the friday dance contest. >> there's another dangerous trend invading cities across the u.s. electric scooters. what happened in walking? in san diego alone, bird scooters deposited 1,300 vehicles around town and people are not happy. bird, lime, spin, these are three companies -- they're like ubers, laura. >> laura: people drop them in the middle of the sidewalk. >> you use your cell phone and you turn the thing on. i hope you have a direct dial tie personal injury attorney because most of these people are falling over. when they stop, they don't stop gradually them stop suddenly. people are flipping over them. again, fractures, leg breaks, arm breaks. it's -- >> laura: don't we -- don't we want people to walk? don't we have an obesity problem? michelle obama had "let's move." now we've gone to let's move to the emergency room because we're injuring ourselves on the scooter. >> if you're over 12, get off
the scooters. >> a grown man with a backpack wearing a knit cap or a baseball cap backwards, wearing the tight on a scooter with a man bun and a tattooea and an er spear. >> i can top you, the 50-year-old skateboards at the skate park. grandpa, you're going to bust a hip. >> go for the milk of magnesia. there was a piece this week by hannah that questioned whether we could still watch movies the way we once did. tell us about this. what does she mean? >> she's talking about "animal house's" 40th anniversary. she says the cruller moments beg the question in the era of me too, is it still ok to enjoy "animal house?" >> laura: are you kidding me? they have no sense of humor. >> we have to reappraise our viewing of every old movie? i thought, my gosh we can't watch "caddyshack" anymore.
>> who's your wife? lovely lady. hey, you're all right. you must have been something before electricity, hah? hey, sal. how are you, hah? olivia loan? >> here's my problem -- olivia loan? >> here's my problem, why are we judging the past by the present? take the era in -- my immediate thought was, my gosh, there's so many old classic movies we'll never be able to watch again like these. >> wish him well. if i could tie a bucket to you and sink you -- >> maybe you found someone you likeeo better? >> what's the matter? what's -- what are you sorry about a little slap? >> why can't we appreciate how society has changed? by the way, adams rid that
movie. it's all about -- adam's rib that movie. it's about a time when women were not equal. enjoy them like time capsules. they capture the stay geist of a time. have a laugh. >> it's like examining shakespeare through a gender study program. by the way, two african-american pastors met with president trump this week. they're getting blow back for it you won't believe up next. week. they're getting blowback for it you won't believe. up next.
the best traditions of this nation. >> laura: how many times did you see former presidents praying like that? i love thatyi moment. that was president trump on wednesday. he held a meeting with inner city religious leaders where several of the pastors expressed support for president trump's policies,r- especially the new push for prison and sentencing reform. well, that actually did not go over e well with some congregans of these pastors who say trump hasn't been good for the black community despite a record low unemployment rate. joining me right now are two pastors who attended that event. pastor darell scott, founder of the new spirit revival center? cleveland, ohio, and pastor moody from alabama along with antowain seawright from new york. thank you for being on tonight. let's start with you, pastor van moody. you received blow back after being at the white house on wednesday. tell us about that.
>> i received blow back, vitrail and name calling, a number of people that were a part of what i'veer done. many said they're leaving. many people expressed anger and frustration because i was there but also because one of the comments i made was misunderstood and taken out of context when i thanked president trump for having a heart of all people as relates to this issue with prison reform and work force development so it's been quite a challenge, but once again, i think the purpose of trying to make a difference in the lives of people that are marginalized and voiceless is so much bigger than personal attack and political ideology. that's 80 went in the first place >> laura: how ironic -- that's why i went in the first place >> laura: how ironic we have a president who seems very open to taking on this very complicated
issue of prison reform, ending this scourge of recidivism in federal prisons, 66% of the current federal prisonut population have already served time them want to put an end to that so people could rejoin communities and get jobs and be retrained and have a job skill, and it's a -- it's a big and heavy lift, but i think they're going to get this done and it takes everybody to do this, and, you know, pastor scott, i'd like you to chime in here, because i think it's so brave that pastor van moody came to the white house. i can't believe i have to describe it as brave, but it is brave in this society that we live in today. >> he took a bold step. i commend and applaud him and the other pastors, my other colleagues, for a coming as wel, but listen, it's time to put those identity politics aside and put this pettiness aside and try to suppress this black/white
divide that the left is trying to promulgate in this country and sit down and have meaningful, productive dialogue lead to some meaningful, productive change in this country. the president has a heart for prison reform. i've been working with him on this for over a year. the president, jaret kushner, criminal justice reform is another issue that is on the president's heart that he's got a concern about. and we've had many different discussions concerning this, and urban revitalization. i'm working with him on the urban revitalization issues. we'reon going to endeavor to hae the most ambitious public/private partnership recording t urban revitalization in american history. i said it at the meeting, people took to to task, i -- tock me to task.um i said president trump has the potential to be the most pro-black presidents in my lifetime. i've lived under 12 different presidents, he's the 12th won.
prior 11 were reactive to the black community. johnson and kennedy that they say are holding up as civil rights icons, they were reactive towards social upheaval. president trump is being proactive towardsti the black community. he's doing these things. that's great. >> laura: antowain, what's your response? you heard what the pastor just said. g trump could be the most pro-black president in modern history. your thoughts? >> i think that's disappointing. and keep in mind, i'm not a pastor, but i grew up -- i'm a fourth generation ame. i grew up in the church. i know a little bit about leadership.e my uncle is the 133rd elected ame bishop in the ame church. what i do know is when a pastor steps out of the pulpit or in the pulpit, they represent the hearts and minds of the entire congregation. what we know about this president from the time before he -- when he was running for president up until now e not had the best interests of african-americans -- now, he's not had the best interests of african-americans.
>> laura: how do you say that? >> if you look at his rhetoric, if you look at some of the things his administration have done, if you look at -- >> laura: like what? >> hey, laura -- >> whether it's voter suppression >> laura: voter suppression? >> [ laughter ] >> absolutely >> laura: where are you getting that? >> hey, laura? >> laura: yeah. >> they're talking about a-hole countries or called mexicans rapers and thugs >> laura: you're throwing out a lot of stuff. half of it is misstated or misrepresented. you can't do this on my show. >> he campaigned on the issues that he wanted to undo barack obama had done. [ everyone talking at once ] ok, hold on, we want to get pastor van moody. you're giving us a speech. speeches don't work on cable television. >> i'm not trying to give a speech. >> clearlysp articulating why i disagree with these pastors. >> let me jump in here -- >> laura: bumper sticker mentality. pastor van moody, go ahead.
>> one of the things that people have to understand is for me as a faith leader, i'm called to something much higher thanh politics and egos and ideology. for me, this was very simple. there are a number of individuals thatf are voiceless and disenfranchised in the prison population. african-americans, for example, make up 12% to 13% of the american population but nearly 35% of the prison population and so for me p, it's not a left ise or a right issue, it is how can we help issue and how can we continue to model the ethic of jesus christ. >> you mean advocate for the least of these? >> exactly. but it's not about if we're going to do this, we've got set aside petty politics, put our egos aside and we have to find commonality between the issue of what i like and what you don't like. >> we're talking about donald trump here. you do know that, right? >> but wait a second, and i talk about in my op ed piece, i've been on record of voicing some
issues that i've had with this administration, but i still believe that we ought to be able to find commonality to work for the good of other people. we have got to move beyond who we like and who we don't like, because there are lives that are swaying in the balance. that's 80 went. >> it's not -- that's why i went. >> this is not what i like and you don't like. it's about -- [ everyone talking at once ] >> laura: hold off. we have two -- hold on, guys, all of you. what i find -- and this is interesting, because i hear this on my f radio show all the timei learn more by listening to people who are not in politics and not pundits like myself. i learn more from listening to other people, people of faith, people in business, than i do from people who are in that narrow lane of politics, because you're living the real life. >> absolutely >> laura:: and antowain, i'm not trying to put you down.
antowain, i'm not trying to put down what you're saying. i'm just saying that sometimes when you take it out of politics , and you give it over to a higher power, good things can happen. not always, but good things can happen. and i want to now allow pastor scott to speak. go ahead?as >> listen, gentlemen such as antowain, whatever your name is, these -- >> it's antowain seawright, don't disrespect me on the air, pastor. i was respectful to you. >> i didn't know your name so i said whatever it is -- >> laura: everybody be nice. be>> nice. be nice. >> duly noted. you guys would rather this country fail than trump succeed. >> who are "you guys?" >> you then. i'll put it on you. you're talking about donald trump person. you would rather the country fail than work together for donald trump to succeed! we're sitting there talking aboutt prison reform to help t prisoners, and you're upset that people went in the room with him! >> i'm not upset that people
went in the room. >> laura: guys, we're out of time, but we're going to be covering prison reform for -- i mean, a couple of months at least and it looks like we're going to actually accomplish something, we're going to be bringing you back. great segment. thank you so much.e and how out-of-control parents, you won't believe this, are fueling a crisis in youth sports. oh boy, look at this. that's next.
[screaming] [bleep] [screaming] >> laura: now, that's just a small sample of the absolutely ridiculous things some parents have done at youth sporting events recently. and the brunt of this increasing harassment is being felt by the referee. the situation is so bad that 80% of high school referees are quitting within just three years. on this facebook page created by an oklahoma youth soccer referee, he is looking to change all that. he's offering bounties to anyone willing to give him a video. showcasing badly behaving parents to publicly shame them. joining us now with reaction is football coaching legend lou holt! lou, it's great to see you! i'm so excited because football
season is about to kick off. you and i are going to the michigan game together. i'm so excited. i'm thrilled. but i'm not thrilled to see the parents completelyi' getting out of control. what -- is this something new or is it just because we have cell phone videos of it? >> i think it's because of our society so to speak.s the most important job a parent has is to prepare their children to make good choices in life. i encourage you to go to games. i went to games for my children, however, i went there predominantly to be there thinking, oh well, it's a life lesson you can teach them. life isn't always fair. ball bounces the wrong way. sometimes a person complains about the way the ball bounces is usually the person that dropped it. and as far as the officials are concerned, this is absolutely ridiculous. these officials don't have children involved in the sport. they are giving of their time and of their effort. they're not professional. you always have to look tatfrom a different point of view. you're going to think this ball is white. i say it's blue. it depends upon which angle you
look at it i would tell our players about the officials. they will make bad calls but they can't put the ball in the end zone. they put it on the one. let's teach our children how to react to it when they have ach tragedy in their life later on, they know how to handle it and now how to react to it. >> when you're coaching at notre dame, did you ever have parents come up to you and say, look, i know everything's on the line at every game, but you never play my son. he's fantastic. can't you give himer a chance? do parents put pressure on you even at the college level? >> never once did i ever have that happen in my entire coaching career? but i always told the players this, you explain to your parents why you're not playing. they don't need to come to me you can give them the answer. you're not doing the things that need to be done.s you're not making the necessary sacrifices. you explain it to them. t because if they come to me i might be more harsher than you willli be if you explain it. if they have a problem after you talk to them, i'm more than welcomed. all my obligations' coach is to be fair to everybody on that football team
if i have someone that's really working hard and wants to win and achieve something in their life, it'll be unfair to that individual for me to put someone on the field who's not adequately prepared to do so. this really bothers me about the parents because so many times they scream andme holler. there for my children when things didn't go well when tim brown won the heisman, i went there to be with him when he didn't win it that's when people need guidance and counseling and above all patience. >> part of this, lou is parents who are trying to live vicariously through their kids. i played sports in high school and some in college. i love the team sports but i don't think i'm vicariously trying to live my life through my kids. i guess that could happen. they get frustrated when things don't go their way. >> well, these are people who are trying to live a second life through their children. you lived your life. let them livech their lives.
your most important obligation, i said at the top of this portion, is your op briggation is to prepare your children for life. you don't do it by blaming everybody else. it's always someone else's fault, son. it's not your fault was it was the official. i'm going to get even with him. this is what is wrong with the society. it's about making right choices. let's be accountable for what happens.ou >> everybody gets a trophyan. everybody gets a trophy. >> no. >> i'm going to see you at the michigan game. legendary coach lou holt, thank you so much. such an honor to talk to you. what a great guy, period. we'll be right back. you. what a great guy,
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>> one of the things that people have to understand is for me as a faith leader, i'm called to something much higher thanh politics and egos and ideology. for me, this was very simple. there are a number of individuals thatf are voiceless and disenfranchised in the prison population. african-americans, for example, make up 12% to 13% of the american population but nearly 35% of the prison population and so for me p, it's not a left ise or a right issue, it is how can we help issue and how can we continue to model the ethic of jesus christ. >> you mean advocate for the least of these? >> exactly. but it's not about if we're going to do this, we've got set aside petty politics, put our egos aside and we have to find commonality between the issue of what i like and what you don't like. >> we're talking about donald trump here. you do know that, right? >> but wait a second, and i talk about in my op ed piece, i've been on record of voicing some
this is news? this is why the president is not only really frustrated with this, but the fact is, this is new's coverage now. you play segments and people are spending air time talking about what the president had had for dessert. or whether he had a diet coke when everyone else had water. here's the thing. the media needs to get up to the real world. but the fact is there are many ways to communicate. whether social media or instagram, facebook twitter. if the media is to the point where they spend air time on two scoops of ice cream. strawberry or vanilla. i don't care. >> sean: joe, you agree with me p wikileaks leaks exposed collusion. >> of course, it was horrible. and they are biassed. >> yes, of course.
this is news? this is why the president is not only really frustrated with this, but the fact is, this is new's coverage now. you play segments and people are spending air time talking about what the president had had for dessert. or whether he had a diet coke when everyone else had water. here's the thing. the media needs to get up to the real world. but the fact is there are many ways to communicate. whether social media or instagram, facebook twitter. if the media is to the point where they spend air time on two scoops of ice cream. strawberry or vanilla. i don't care. >> sean: joe, you agree with me p wikileaks leaks exposed collusion. >> of course, it was horrible. and they are biassed. >> yes, of course.
subcategory is not subject to what is dealt with now. everybody who is here illegally is subject to removal at any time. that is consistent with every country, not just ours. if you for this country are in an illegal manner there is a provision to be removed. but the priority of the property and ice, is make sure are that people who commit a crime are a priority of their efforts. first and foremost. >> reporter: let me p follow-through. the president and his team had rez areivations about undocumented people in the united states who are beneficiaries of public assistance or access to benefits either at the state or federal level. what will the president do to
a huge cooperation like the state department you may not know everything that is going on. but you are giving direction as to whether or not you want to be lobbying on certain issues and taking positions or not. you told me p in the world conversation with president-elect you didn't discuss russia. it is difficult to believe that you didn't know exxon was lobbying. >> my understanding they are required wherewhether you are lobby for or agains you are required to report. >> you believe you were paying to money to lobby. >> i don't know. all i know. >> can can you imagine your share holders to lobby for sanctions to bottom line. >> it would depend on the circumstance. >> let me turn to mexico. a little different part of the
i thought when i pointed the gun he would stop. he got like a linebacker went low and to the west. when he did that i didn't mean to hoot him or anything. i didn't even think i was holding the trigger. i just was pointing it at him. i didn't know that i shot him. he lunged at me p and he fell. he's grabbing at my clothes and i got up and he is just screaming angry. after i broke away from him he said (bleep) kill you (bleep). >> once you broke away from him what do you remember? >> almost nothing for a long time. >> do you remember stabbing travis alexander? >> i have no memory. >> were you crying when you were
you know, look, i guess dennis rodman has a right to whatever friends he wants. but i do think broadly you have to realize if you're a public figure, you go and do things like, this they have an impact. the white house has come out and said this is not the sort of thing we want to be doing. >> he looks earnest. i feel sorry for dennis rodman. thank you, stephen. >> i'm not sure whether he is earnest, but that doesn't mean the impact of hi actions don't have negative consequences. >> thank you thank you stephen a. we'll be right after this. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics let my me p in the middle of the night it can be frustrating. it's hard to turn off and go back to sleep. intermezzo is the first and only prescription sleep aid approved for use as needed in the middle of the night when you can't get back to sleep. it's an effective sleep medicine you don't take before bedtime. take it in bed only when you need it and have at least four hours left for sleep. do not take intermezzo if you have had an allergic reaction to drugs containing zolpidem, such as ambien.
he could have cut me and ran. i didn't know he had a knife while he was cutting me. i didn't know. >> how did you not know? >> i was busy. i was fighting. >> at what point did you realize you had been stabbed. >> at the very end i had him by the hair and i was upper-cutting him. then i noticed i had a couple of drops of blood on my shoe. and hi cut me p like bam, bam, bam and i let him go. >> you were severely stabbed. i'm just curious how you wouldn't have felt that. >> because i was enjoying fighting. >> but fighting has led to one of the greatest refwrets of ellerman's life, the loss of a relationship from his 13-year-old son. he has and heard from him once in the past eight years.