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he is a heck no on trump care. >> i'm a heck no on this. i think they've got problems with the vote. i've personally spoken to 29 of my conservative colleagues who are no on this as of today and we're not even counting the moderate republicans who are a no. i think they've got a lot of arm twisting to do between now and thursday if they're going to pass this bill in the house. >> does he sound scared to you? because congressman massey was in the room today when donald trump came to the house of representatives to urge republicans to vote for the bill. here is how congressman massey describes tough guy donald trump. threatening and pushing around all those republicans who oppose the bill. >> he was very charming. there was some light-hearted jabs at his opponents in the room but it was all in good fun. >> light-hearted jabs. that ought to do it. that's what tough guy trump is delivering to republican opponents of his bill. thomas massey doesn't claim to
be a tough guy the way donald trump does, but he certainly doesn't sound afraid of the tough guy. and to listen to congressman massey, no republicans are. >> he's been to kentucky once, and vice president pence has been to kentucky once and it's still not changing senator rand paul's mind or my mind. i'm not sure what they can do to get the vote they need. >> president trump told them if they did not vote for the bill, they would face primary challenges in their districts. again, congressman massey is not worried. >> now, to your point about being in electoral trouble offer this vote, before i came over here to speak with you, i counselled my call log. i have 275 constituents who asked me to oppose this bill and only four who have asked me to support it.
known that from day one. >> mark meadows won his last election with 64% of the vote. mark meadows knows how to call -- calculate his chances. >> ken, this is looking very difficult for paul ryan and donald trump in the house of representatives now. what i'm struck by is no one who comes out against this bill seems even slightly intimidated either by the speaker or the president. >> yeah, there's a couple reasons for that, lawrence, i think. first of all, in this house freedom caucus, you have folks that are just personally predisposed to opposing the leadership. we've seen that time and again. so i don't think that either having the leadership or donald trump lean on them is
necessarily the ticket to getting them on board. additionally, there's no evidence that trump would be able to leverage to actually go after gop house members. tease are district by district battles, not national media based advertising wars or air wars. as you cited in the run-up there, the health care bill is not particularly popular. so these folks are not going to face challenges from the right necessarily, let alone ones where donald trump would be a major factor in whipping up support for a primary challenger. >> let listen to what congressman david brat told conservative caty tur today. >> do you believe this vote is going to happen on thursday? >> right now we're aiming for it. >> aiming for it sound like you're not very confident you're going to have it. >> i don't think there's the
votes. there's 10 or 20 moderates and folks in tough races up in the northeast corridor that have coverage issues. >> so no. >> so it's a problem right now. >> what does it mean to the trump presidency if the president loses his first big vote in the house of representatives? >> it would be huge, enormous. i was thinking about listening to trump make this case of not being able to persuade republicans, and i thought back to ronald reagan when he got his legislation through in the first year, and he had to apply pressure but that was because he had to convince democrats, not republicans. what you've got here is a weak president and an unpopular bill. they're having tough sledding. to see a republican president with a republican congress 60 days into his presidency have this amount of difficulty is extraordinary. of course it's an unprecedented
tremendous blowback. but the reason is that these are self-inflicted wounds by donald trump. he is a corrupt president and a corrupt man and it catching up to us. it not just the description, it the ineptness. it not just the investigation. it's the a this man just isn't up to being president and day after day, week after week, we're seeing more and more evidence of that. i think it's unnerving republicans. >> ken, there's some speculation today that the drop in the stock market is related to what peter is now saying, that wall street is now getting that same kind of impress this presidency, that he is unbalanced and incompetent. what does that mean for thing about tax bill wall street is hoping for and all the
deregulation that wall street is hoping for? >> that's a kind of valid question. they painted themselves in the corner by doing it as the first bill out. it just a super complicated issue. but additionally it want necessarily the one that he or the folks in his administration, in his inner circle, felt the most strongly about. they did feel more strongly about the a -- tax overhaul and some the deregulatory measure. the de -- they said the members of congress for six years, the republican members of congress had campaigned against my sources tell me there are folks inside the administration o say
they wouldn't mind seeing this fail because they would see it as sort of a failure for paul ryan, who they believe put them in this position. nont business, i agree with pete, it would be set back his entire agenda because some of these other. >> a quick last word on what you think if this bill either fails in the vote or if the speaker has to just take it down and not go to the vote on thursday, the potential damage to paul ryan. >> i think it would be a beg blow to ryan. i mean, this is his bill. he set it up. he's pushing it. and trump has in a sense hinged -- connected himself to ryan, to that wagon. and if it crashes into the side of a hill, that's going to be very bad for ryan. but it would be bad for trump and it would be be bad for
entire republican party. it would signal to voers they're not ready for primetime. they've got the senate, the house and the presidency and they can't govern. they can't pass what is sense and you know politic, victories build on themselves and so do defeats. if this goes down, this isn't the only issue they'll go down on. >> and there as within more night nairos and then those republicans who voted for it and compromised themselves in the house will have done that for nothing, trying to get them to do that once given on any other bill is going to be pretty tough, too. ken vogel, peter wehner, thank you both for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> coming up, the leader of a physician's group tells us he's never seen legislation that would do more harm to health
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mandate, ban on further expansion will harm the most vulnerable. and joining us now, robert dougherty. thank you very much for joining us tonight. i want to start, first of all, with what you see as the differences in this 2.0 version, the version of the bill that was hastily written yesterday and released last night. >> sure, lawrence, and thank you for having me. the original bill was bad enough because it targeted the most vulnerable people in our society, poorer and sicker people, particularly those on medicaid. in an effort to make sweeteners to attract more vote, they made it even worse for those people by putting a block grant aid, which means they would be stuck holding the tab and they would need to -- and then the work mandate, we believe health care is a right and people shouldn't
be forced to prove that they are able to work in order to have coverage. >> i want to go to something that donald trump said about physicians specifically and their reaction to the affordable care act. let's listen to this. >> many of our best and brightest are leaving the medical profession entirely because of obamacare. obamacare has been a complete and total catastrophe and it's getting worse and worse by the day and yet you watch the fake media, the fake news and they try and build it up. it's a disaster, fellas. it's a disaster. >> your reaction to that, robert? >> physicians have frustrations
with red tape and things like that, but that has nothing to do with the affordable care act or obamacare. the physicians i represent internal medicine doctors, the largest specialty in the united states are strongly committed to the idea that their patients should have access to affordable health care. what we know is that the bill that will be going to the house on thursday would roll back coverage for millions of people and get particularly the most vulnerable and that really sticks in our craw. a society should put its greatest attention to supporting those who need help the most, the poor kids on medicaid, elderly on medicaid, mental health disorders who get coverage through medicaid and the idea of going after those people and taking the coverage away, to our members at the american college of physicians is unconscionable. >> you are getting some help from rick schneider who sent this letter to his delegation saying there are 1.75 million
children, seniors, pregnant women and disabled individual served by traditional medicaid in michigan and roughly 104,000 of them reach side in your district. he wrote to u.s. representative tim wahlberg in a letter saying that this legislation will adversely impact them. it seems that that's not something understood by a majority of the republicans in the house. >> maybe so far. we're still hopeful the bill will not pass the house on thursday or that speaker rife -- ryan will reconsider rushing ahead and rushing the legislation through. clearly governors, governor kasich is another, who understand that medicare is crucial to the health of their resident and medicare expansion states like michigan, ohio, terminating that program would have terrible consequences for vulnerable people, older and sicker people covered by medicaid right now.
i think there are more and more republicans who are getting it, certainly the governors more and more are getting it but i do think you see more members of congress, members of congress that are having strong reservations at least with the plan that's being put forward for a vote on thursday. >> yeah, i think from your experience you know when you see this kind of trouble getting through the house, there's probably even more trouble trying to get the same bill through the senate. robert doherty, thank you for joining us. i really appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> up next, the senate confirmation hearing a supreme court justice. what you should be looking for in that hearing. that's next. various: (shouting) heigh! ho! ( ♪ ) it's off to work we go! woman: on the gulf coast, new exxonmobil projects are expected to create over 45,000 jobs. and each job created by the energy industry supports two others in the community. altogether,
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produced better justices than john marshall or oliver wendell homes, both of whom did not have confirm's hearings and had not been subject to fbi background checks because the fbi had not been invented yet. the first senate confirmation hearing was at the beginning of the 21st century when president wilson chose the first jewish nominee, louis brandeis, the supposed gentleman of the senate then were taken aback by a jewish nominee and decided we better slow this thing down and ask a few questions and so they had their first confirmation hearing. louis brandeis was then confirmed and went on to become one of the great figures in american jurisprudence. there were only two more confirmation hearings before the television days and both to address suspected scandals and both were then confirmed. william o. douglas was the longest serving member of the
united states supreme court and possibly its most influential and its most liberal. most liberal member ever. he lived a romantically scandalous life for his era as a supreme court justice. he was married four times while serving on the supreme court. excerpts of an article he wrote appeared in "ever green" magazine, which was considered a mildly porn graphic magazine. it is impossible to imagine the longest serving justice in the history of the united states supreme court getting through a senate confirmation hearing today. and luckily for william o. douglas, he didn't have to. douglas reportedly sat outside the judiciary committee's meeting room on the day he had heard his nomination was going to be discussed privately among the members, and he passed a handwritten note to the chairman saying do you have any questions for me?
that note came back to justice douglas with the chairman's handwritten one-word reply "no." and the republic survive and justice douglas wouldn't recognize what went on at the judiciary committee today. it is a game, steeped in a relatively short tradition that the press mistakenly thinks is a long tradition of judicial nominees refusing to comment on anything that you would ever expect a candidate for the united states supreme court to be able to discuss. like, say, the single most famous case of the modern era, roe v. wade. they pretend that cannot be discussed. the game of the judiciary is to pretend you don't have an opinion on the case everyone has an opinion about. here is clarence thomas in his confirmation hearing in 1991
telling senator patrick leahy that even though roe v. wade was decided when he was in law school, he neff talked about it, never formed an opinion about it. >> have you ever had discussion of roe v. wade other than in this room? in the 17 or 18 years it's been there? >> only i guess, senator, in the fact in the most general sense that other individuals expressed concerns one way or the other and you listen and you try to be thoughtful. if you're asking me whether or not i've ever debated the contents of it, the answer of that is, no, senator. >> have you ever, pretty gatherings or otherwise, stated whether you felt that it was properly decided or not? >> senator, in trying to recall
and reflect on that, i don't recollect commenting one way or the other. there were, again, debates about it in various places but i generally did not participate. i don't remember or recall participating, sir. >> judging by pat leahy's follow-up question, he didn't actually believe that answer. that was the moment i decided clarence thomas was willing to say anything and that was before anita hill came forward to accuse him of sexual harassment. today neil gorsuch was willing to play the game. he couldn't possibly offer his opinion about the case because of that meaningless and false and relatively short senate confirmation tradition that says you can't possibly be a fair
supreme court justice if you've ever thought about any case that may come before you in any form. of course exactly the opposite is true. presidents are looking for highly educated lawyers who have already been through the senate confirmation process at least once and sometimes twice as federal judges and appeals court judges. and that they're the kind of people who think about this stuff every day. but in the senate confirm ago -- confirmation hearings, they have to pretend they haven't and they have to pretend there's no hypothetical case they could ethically answer in their conformation hearings pause then no one would believe they could be fair in a case resembling that came to the supreme court. here's neil gorsuch today playing that game. >> it's a blanket religious test. is that consistent with the first amendment?
>> senator, we have a free exercise clause that protects the free exercise of religious liberties by all persons in this country. if you're asking me how i'd apply it to a specific case, i can't talk about that for understandable reasons. >> no. there's nothing understandable about those reasons. and to prove it, gorsuch himself later actually did talk about a hypothetical case, as senator leahy persisted with his line of questioning about religious tests. >> let me give you an example be, should there be a religious test to serve in the military. >> senator, that would be inappropriate, yes. that's against the law. that's against the law. >> see? pat leahy actually got a supreme court nominee to teak a hypothetical position on a hypothetical case that could now easily come to the supreme court.
president trump could easily decide that the solution to the massacre at fort hood by army major nidal has and is to ban muslims from serving in the military. that is not far fetched in trump world. and neil gorsuch has already ruled on it right there in the judiciary committee today. but that doesn't mean that he would not give a fair hearing to all of the details of a particular case, that a trump ban of muslims in the military would present to the supreme court because fairness as a judge does not mean in a you have no opinions. fairness as a judge means that as a human being you are full of opinions, political and otherwise, but fairness as a judge means that you limit your judicial findings and your jujs rulings to what the constitution intends. being a fair judge means that the controlling law in the case is more important to you than
your own opinions or prejudices. it doesn't mean that you don't have opinions or prejudices. and so neil gorsuch got nothing wrong on his side of the game today in the judiciary committee. very, very few supreme court nominees ever do get anything wrong because it such a simple game. they don't even get things slightly wrong according to the rules of that game. democrats in the senate along with republicans unanimously voted to the justice that neil gorsuch is nominated to replace, antonin scalia, who was the most right wing conservative judge in the modern history of the court. he got the unanimous vote of democrats and republicans because the tradition then enforced that vote. the tra dgs was simply is the nominee qualified to be a judge. not do i agree with this nominee. that's the new standard, do i agree with this nominee.
and it is just as will the as the old standard because the constitution gives no guidance to what senators are supposed to consider. the standards are all based on tradition and now we see that that tradition changes over time. senator al franken disagrees with judge gorsuch's position on a case involving a truck driver who was fired by a trucking company after disregarding his supervisor's order, unhooking his trailer and driving to a gas station to get out of the freezing cold. the truck driver, who had been in his unheated truck for hours in subzero temperatures said he was numb and his speech was slurring and by the time he left the broken down trailer, here's what senator al franken said about this case today. >> it is absurd to say this company is in its rights to fire him because he made the choice
of possibly dying from freezing to death are causing other people to die possibly by driving an unsafe vehicle. that's absurd. now, i had a career in identifying absurdity. and i know it when i see it. and it makes me, you know -- it makes me question your judgment. >> senator franken thinks it's absurd that judge gorsuch ruled for the trucking company against the truck driver. that alone is a perfectly legitimate reason for senator al franken to vote against neil gorsuch. but there is another bigger reason that has never been present before in the senate confirmation process for any supreme court justice in history, and that is neil gorsuch is the only nominee ever selected to fill a stolen seat
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at large for "new york magazine" and emmy award winning producer of hbo's "veep." i want to go to the imagery moment in the one-on-one with donald trump where donald trump asks neil gorsuch a question that he disapproves of. lindsey graham sets the stage for us. let's watch this. >> in that interview, did he ever ask you to overrule roe v. wade? >> no, senator. >> what would you have done if he'd asked? >> senator, i would have walked out the door. it's not what judges do. >> and there is the perfect execution of the theater of the confirmation hearing performance by a supreme court nominee. >> didn't it look rehearsed? >> yeah, it did. and also i don't believe a word of it.
i believe if that moment happened, he would have said to himself i'm dealing with the most ignorant president in history who doesn't even know the public tradition that we're not supposed to discuss this and i will tell the most ignorant president in history i can't comment on that now, i don't have -- he would have given his confirmation hearing answer to the question, which is i can't talk about that. >> although the way lindsey graham, who is after all a lawyer framed that question, there was a lot of wiggle om yway. he just asked him -- if he asked you would you overturn it. the question could have been what do you think about roe v. wade and gorsuch could have told him the truth and still he could have given that answer to graham under oath today. >> right. so the democrats have a very tough set of choices in front of them. they, first of all, have this issue of the stolen seat. there's no question that the asterisk is on this seat of all team. there are many on the democratic side who want them to vote
against gorsuch on just that alone. >> it won't make a difference but i can understand the desire of the democratic base to want. it was a stolen seat and it an outrage. that's a good way to protest it and it not outrageous to cast that vote as opposed to what mitch mcconnell did to merrick garland. neil gorsuch called up garland to say this seat should have been yours. >> "lassie come home." should all the democrats oppose moving to the vote? in other words, filibustering it
because that risks the possibility that mitch mcconnell will then say, okay, no more 60-vote threshold on supreme court justices and then what are you going to get in the end of that anyway? >> nothing good if -- >> i would not know how to advise a democratic senator on this. >> and given that harry reid and the democrats sort of set this precedent anyway about breaking rules like this, that's not good and that could come back to haunt them, particularly if there's another -- obviously if there's another supreme court vacancy. >> the list of gorsuches just goes on and on. they had a dozen off the top of everybody's head in washington that the list that gorsuch was on. >> right. they're all sort of youngish, they're all presentable or most of them are presentable. really this guy, i'm sure he's a lovely man and smart. but really, if he wanted to cast in an hour drama you wanted to cast this person, this is from central casting.
>> i mean, the question -- i guess one of the questions that's being calibrated is how far from scalia is he? where is he in terms of a replacement in that seat? what does he do to the balance of the court? >> well, "the washington post" i think had a story, the political scientists have looked at every single opinion of his say he's considerably to the right of both clarence thomas and alito. so i think we have the answer to that question. >> that's the scalia seat. >> he may be to right of scalia. >> the on person ever to the right of those guys. >> frank rich, welcome back from hollywood. you've wrapped on "veep." we need to see more of you. >> coming up, the world was watching when the fbi director told congress that the president of the united states was not telling the truth. at ancestry, we call it a hint.
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>> joining us now from paris is christopher dickey, world news editor for "the daily beast" and msnbc contributor. what was the european reaction to that extraordinary hearing yesterday? >> well, i think the first reaction was to report the facts that the fbi director is essentially saying president trump hasn't been telling the truth about all kind of things and that the investigation about the russian involvement is still under way. but i think also the reaction was why is trump tweeting in the middle of all this? why is trump going on and on about this on twitter when there's a very solemn hearing going on in front of the u.s. congress? i think people here are very confused watching this administration, and i think they just don't know what to do when they look at trump's presidency. so one of the things they're doing is they're starting to
turn more toward russia. we're hearing a lot here in france, even from presidential candidates about the need for closer relations with russia because russia somehow is a more traditional ally, is a more stable country. it's absurd to think that that would be the case, but that's what we're hearing. >> it's such a strange turn of logic, if we can even use that word, christopher, but is that just part of just how disorienting the trump phenomenon is in europe? >> well, i think so. i mean, i think trump is going to -- in may he's going to the nato summit, well, that's great. but the fact is people here just don't have much confidence in the united states to back them up anymore. and as chancellor merkel suggested in only slightly veiled language, there's real questions now about whether the united states shares the values of europe or at least of mainstream politicians and
leaders in europe. is the united states really supporting democracy? does it understand how serious the problems can be if you embrace russia? you know, so what they do is they say where can we look for stability? and if we're not going to get the kind of backing we need from the united states, we better start looking to cut better deals with russia. >> and how did the merkel visit play in europe, especially the moment of donald trump refusing to shakeer hand camera where everyone could hear it? >> i think people were appalled. i think merkel understood and i think many europeans understand that the policies of the trump administration are deeply hostile to the european union and in many in many respects to nato. the -- merkel when she was standing there next to him kept trying to call him out very quietly saying, you know, we believe in europe and you don't
VoteColleaguesCareProblemsHeck29Scary-donald-trumpIn-the-houseCongressmanRoomRepublicanLotit was supposed to be the night of a bright sit breakthrough summit britain and the european union both agreeing to an amicable divorce but for british prime minister to resign may the best laid plans of london in brussels have indeed go in the wrong again i burnt off in berlin this is the day. i prefer to live in on the face of the british people to continue to put the tory party's interests they now want a second referendum good for the british people and secondly terribly sorry we think you got it wrong she could listen to you to this is simply an acceptance of the people point to which you seem to me the second referendum the people voted in
this cup. also coming up tonight an exclusive report from the syrian city of raka and the legacy of fear and terror left behind by islamic state. we notice the children freeze up whenever they hear shots and explosions which are still frequent here. we were playing with it and it exploded two children next to me died and an old man was badly hurt. or we begin the day with yet another attempt to break through that breaks it blockade and yet again apparently it didn't work tonight the leaders of all you countries met in brussels now before their working dinner began they listened to british prime minister to resign may dish out the latest breaks it progress report a progress report in name only that's according to people such as european council president donald tusk he said that may be offered nothing new which means europe
and britain are moving closer to breaks it with no deal in saw the pressure is mounting both at home and in brussels but the reason may appear as beat . the team has been working very hard in order to ensure that we can address these issues what we've seen is that we've sold most of the issues in withdrawal agreements there are still there is still a question of the northern irish. but a backstop solution proposed by the e.u. does not sit right with london nor will not and would stay in the e.u. customs union while the rest of the u.k. would leave it. both sides want to avoid a hard border not in but how to achieve that remains controversial. the debate is now concentrating on the issue of the irish border and how to prevent a border in the irish sea which is something united kingdom desperately wants to
have also for the same time to afford of course a hard border. in ireland itself both parties involved face an uphill battle to get the still talks back on track the e.u. is willing to give the u.k. a longer transition period but father and this is just kicking the can further down the road. this marriage and discussing the idea of a longer transition but that can be an alternative to backstop an art of german chancellor angela merkel is taking the road of caution. i'm taking a rational approach in trying to find an agreement that works for everyone. it's but for now reaching a consensus appears difficult despite the best intentions an optimism of the e.u. leaders. can all sides ever agree on
the w.'s mag's hoffman spoke to the veteran e.u. parliamentarian elmore broke and asked him is there a deal which suits the european union and could also suit the british parliament. let's see i think it's very difficult and would you compare parliament parliament because we do not see any see any coherence both parties are totally divided and see here is a man as one day to take the risk to put something to no deal is especially for the united kingdom. also damaged us but especially for the united kingdom was so dramatic that i think at the end of a day emotion should not be in that question and then have a position where we all it can live with but under the conditions that our two principles irish border and the intuitive market unity is secret and that's going to happen yes or no i hope that in the course of the next week it will happen probably not to. thank you very much mr. our the positive spin there any
prediction that's a man with courage tonight was told in our correspondent and he is in brussels covering the summit fours max you know we heard mr brooke right there say he thinks that some sort of agreement could reached could be reached by maybe next week is he . being overly optimistic with this. yes maybe he meant in the next weeks because that would be in line with what michele said the chief you negotiator from the e.u. commission we've heard that sentence repeated in different variations next days next weeks it seems that the prescription that the different leaders in the go shooters' gave themselves for this stage today was to say yes we do think a deal is still possible and we remain optimistic no matter what happens we're going to continue to talk together and to you this brand summit is over for today we just got that information in here so the e.u. twenty seven didn't convene for
a very long time they're not really saying anything. will not give a statement tonight austrian chancellor had said said so far that truce to make out her chance to express herself once again and that she didn't really say anything new that's in line with what the e.p. president said but it seems that the whole atmosphere the tone was much more positive than in the past so you have that at least yet and i mean look we're going to be able to leave the office tonight before midnight covering an e.u. summit i think the last time we did that we were maybe what five years younger but it it proves a point this topic has been with us time and time again we've had so many summits that were crucial breaks at summits and nothing happened now we're getting reports the e.u. leaders won't even give a date for the next brics summit so is that need to see a positive spin they are or are we just kicking everything down the road. well
we'll have to wait and see what they say we do know that the next regular summit is and december might be the last shot at getting a deal done and they were always discussing a nother summit in november just to finalize a deal on brags that if there is no deal then maybe they'll get to. nevertheless to talk about what happens in the no deal scenario we do know that they already talked about that tonight the commission actually presented its precautions is preparations for a no deal scenario this is getting more serious and they want to be sure that they're prepared for whatever could happen here clearly they think that the ball once again is in the camp of the united kingdom because as we discussed earlier the front line is no longer between the e.u. and theresa may it's within the u.k. what can to reset may actually sell what could she bring home that the bracks a tears will accept and not shoot down. and and that's briefly one thing that has changed we do have european leaders talking openly now about provisions for
a new deal brags that right we've got the german chancellor she's been open about it leaders in brussels are saying yeah we've got contingency plans and we're getting ready maybe to execute. that's a very very real possibility not necessarily because of theresa may she is she is known to be rather predictable when she says we want to find a deal that suits both sides it seems credible though the two sides one very different things but you just don't know what's going to happen with the deal with parliament in the u.k. will approve it so they really need to prepare for any situation and on top of that it increases the pressure on the u.k. parliament all right myself and all the storm force in brussels tonight max thank you very much. well still ahead on the day happy high and healthy not all doctors are celebrating canada becoming the second country in the world to legalize cannabis but plenty of business people are. i think canada is
going to be a big blow both leader and cannabis that's exciting that's something we should be proud about and the opportunity to showcase how this model can work on a federal level is a great responsibility and one we're more than happy to take on. and now to the heavy price paid for the liberation of raka it was a year ago that so-called islamic state was driven album its self declared capital in syria local militias fought them on the ground while the u.s. planes bombarded them from the air of the fight for iraq a lasted for months and soul thousands of people killed the city is now free of all yes but it lies in ruins our reporters begin to show them and jaffar of the karim went to iraq go on an embedded trip with the u.s. army they looked at what the u.s. is willing and unwilling to do to help
a city as it struggles to recover. abdullah is happy to see us in his classroom it's a place of safety and he can finally learn and play with other children. it's a year since he lost his hand he and his friends found a fridge which had a booby trapped inside. beer we were playing with it and it exploded two children next to me died and an old man was badly hurt. i was to buy a piece of shrapnel. two of my friends died from. their high file teaches the special class addressing the particular needs of able to enter on the test children she wasn't allowed to work at all and that i s. were in charge. all she says about that time is that it was hard for everyone to have an end up fighting casually we notice the children freeze up
whenever they hear shots and explosions which i still frequently hear. there they completely unsettled me that anything with a hole in. the united states funds the class we are on a trip organized by the u.s. army and state department they want to show us what has been achieved since the victory over here as in russia and they want to encourage small countries to fund the stabilization of the city. the security measures during our visit here in the aca a very very tight they have been several terror attacks over the past months and there are still i as sleeper cells operating in the city. the fight against the so-called islamic state in russia which included u.s. airstrikes destroyed more than seventy percent of the city. there's not much left barely any hospitals homes or anywhere to live and no mains electricity but people
are slowly coming back. we really need work they don't have work you can't eat or drink work is the most important thing for sure will come of that luckily some schools are opening again and we registered our children my daughter was not allowed to study under i.r.s. now she's in the first grade even though she's older but still she's allowed to study that's not the fact that the u.s. has been giving what it calls stabilization eight to rocka that means clearing mines and rubber repairing buildings and supporting local people but it doesn't mean large scale reconstruction. the united states has said that in terms of rebuilding there can't begin until we've got here reversible progress towards a political solution through the geneva process and so that's what we're looking towards it's. irreversible progress on the political front the future of syria is being negotiated far away in geneva by the u.n.
sponsored talks there have stalled and roc-a the pressures on. the longer reconstruction takes to begin says coach elfric cassava council. the greater the danger that i as might gain support among the people. the help offered so far is like um but it's not enough meeting with the u.s. representative the council vent their frustration they've heard that us president on a tramp cut about two hundred million dollars from syria's stabilisation eight. as if those who destroyed the city should rebuild it what will we expect the coalition of the united states to help us with this they promised they would. fund now it's projects like this that's a civil council is focusing on repairing rak us infamous stadium. the foreman a match tells us islamic state terrorists carried out mass executions here and that
they tortured hundreds of civilians in the cellars. i hope that the stadium will be full again one day and the people will come and play sports here again. like they did before the i.a.s. to control that's what we're hoping for. the first two games are due to take place here in a couple of weeks they could offer brief respite from everyday life in the ruins of rocca. yeah and from the ruins of rock is my calling from here to show because she was there since all that report it's good to have you here safe and sound at the big table but here to talk to me a little bit about just how extensive the the ruins are in that city i mean the city is basically completely destroyed isn't it yeah absolutely driving through. feels a little bit like driving through a ghost town and actually iraq is one of the most destroyed cities inside syria so
there is a lot of destruction but the people are trying to come back they want to reclaim in a way this city they want to have hope they want to to to rebuild that they are in a very middle growth situation because infrastructure is shattered there are mines everywhere so it's very hard for them and we had the feeling from what the people told us that it they are very frustrated and they have a little bit the fear that the u.s. and the international coalition might step out and leave them alone with all the what they say mess with them if they have i mean these are these are traumatized people i was struck by the fact that there were people these men want to rebuild the stadium knowing that in that stadium these atrocities took place with islamic state that's mind boggling yeah exactly it's i mean it's not only the trauma because of the fighting it's also the trauma because of all those atrocities committed by islamic state in open and public so there are a lot of locations where the people are constantly remembered of have happened
there of tortures of mass executions like in the stadium as you said and we met workers who had been imprisoned in that stadium so now rebuilding it is a sort of relief and help but at the same time the trauma is triggered and they're there they're really remember this is haunting them we know that image the international recently called for answers regarding civilian deaths in iraq claiming that hundreds rick killed in u.s. coalition led airstrikes i mean how was it how important is it for the city to have closure and to find out what really happened it's absolutely important because those people who have lost loved ones they want answers that acknowledge that the gas and the collision had to do asked trikes to defeat isis but they criticize also the. of destruction the mount of civil kevil ts and they want closure they have very happy that i'm the difference and ist is investigating that and we have met
one of the investigators on the ground her name is donatella rovera and we can listen to what she had to say concerning the coalition is not carrying out to be investigation that it should be carrying out having bombarded from the sky they really should be here and do the work we are doing which is to go and do site investigations and interview survivors if they do in lessons have to be learned and we have to remember this is a city that was a jihad as capital for years how much support can these people count on moving forward to rebuild. i mean the problem is that. i as had thousands of supporters and city and out of conviction some some some just just fear for the their security but those people have vanished they just melted back
into society so the people are asking themselves where out they trust each other the people now not at all it's the same situation by the way we we saw we saw in mosul when we were there and the fighting is but even the frustration of the people is so so big that some of them i mean we were talking on the streets was always a u.s. soldier in our back so you can ask if they'd be really open but some even said i as the time during i asked was better than now and i think this is a really alarming sign. very disturbing fact to considering what i did to them and their families and their children and their daughters good historical we appreciate you being on the show tonight and for bringing this story it's important to hear thank you.
a green rush begins today in canada as the first stores began legally selling cannabis can of the today became the second country after europe wide to legalize the use recreational use of marijuana people they are can now buy i possess and use small amounts of the drug legalizing marijuana was a campaign promise of prime minister justin trudeau he says the move will protect minors and reduce organized crime but not everyone agrees. a very high five as canada's first legal recreational marijuana transaction takes place buyers had waited for hours literally lining up around the block. i'm so excited i don't think i've ever been as excited for anything else i'm only. huge this is like the end of prohibition for alcohol pretty much for cannabis right so it's just something that you want to be able to tell your kids that you are there
for this moment. legalization means that pot is suddenly big business worth billions buyers have been snapping up greenhouses and farms as legitimate demand replaces the black market. the main focus of the company right now is certainly on creating a very strong footprint here in canada which is the biggest legal market in the world but some health researchers say the impact on young users in particular is a big unknown in. what example for example in quebec at the moment the age when you're allowed to use recreational cannabis is eighteen years old. but we know that the brain is still in a stage of development and still twenty five years of age. says. search law enforcement experts say there will be another unintended consequence several do. drug sniffing dogs trained to detect marijuana will likely have to be
retired. so for more on the long term implications of this historic day i'm joined tonight from ottawa canada by dr di and kills all she's editor in chief at the canadian medical association journal doctors good to have you on the program from where you're sitting and from a health standpoint is today a good or a bad day for the health of canadians. a good question and i would have to say as a physician it's not a great day for health of canadians why. well. let's legalize ation of cannabis in the country it can send a message across the country should be given to the adults they can perceive that the nine substance it's something we don't need to be worried about but my concern is that it probably is decades down the line the same thing or not it was
cigarettes we're going to discover that we're going to have a generation that may have increased the pendency and then has the have side effects that he may not have ever thought about when they started using that there are. what do we know what we don't know what all the side effects could be but we do know there are some risks but if you compare that with what we do know about alcohol and tobacco i mean that's it's very minor right in alcohol and tobacco are still available. well you know i mean that's a common thing that people say to you know that say about this and i think the thing is because just because we've done poorly with alcohol john better and doesn't mean we need to reproduce. with the legalization of cannabis we actually do know a lot about the health effects of cannabis and i mean the studies that have been done show that young people particularly those with
a family history of mental health disorders psychotic health disorders some are more likely to develop something like a schizophrenia or another psychotic health disorder we know that those who use it regularly they're more likely to have problems with thinking and with complex tasks their memory you know so so while there are many things i don't know about marijuana there is a lot that we do know and it's concerning i mean as as your clip had just showed the brain the human brain continues to develop until the age of twenty five and we have receptors in our brain for can happen or is which is why when you use marijuana you feel pleasure but putting cannabis into the brain as it's developing and again with a legalization age of eighteen or nineteen depending on the province even if you're using it legally there still are many years where your brain can be affected and one thing we do know is that with me look at the brain of an m.r.i.
there are actually physical changes that we can see in the brain in those who use it happily what we're doing let me ask you this to what it seems like what you're saying is that beginning today all of canada has become one big maybe social experiment or that all canadians are now lab rats if you will is that the case i mean let me ask you will you ever smoke a joint. no i won't then you're right it is it is an experiment and it. an experiment because we don't know if the regulations that have been put in are going to achieve their goals we don't know a lot about canada but we will down the line as more and more people use it which is why it's really important that the government put in a very robust monitoring program that they look at who is using it now is it going up is it going on among both of those populations like young people and their needs
and he put into research dr heels on fortunately we're out of time but we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us tonight dianne kelso editor in chief at the canadian medical association journal article thank you very much thank. well the day is almost on the conversation continues online your find us on twitter and you see how to reach us right there and remember whatever happens between now and this tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody. can come.
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