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From chicago former senior adviser to president obama, director of the university chicagos institute of politics and msnbc contributor david axelrod. also in washington,s in news chief white house correspondent and political director and host of the daily rundown, chuck todd. thanks for all of you for being at the table this morning. lets get to news. the nations biggest tech companies will sit down with president obama to discuss the nsas practice of data collection. whos who of silicon valley,...

1979 when meta data was first held constitutional, the world has changed and this amount of information allows the government to create a virtual identity of american citizens that use any kind of telephone and so that is invasive of the fourth amendment. i think again, its somewhat lichlted finding for the following reason. if they were to find ways of limiting the invasion or the collection of data for u.s. citizens for which there is no suspicion whatsoever and if it were to demonstrate that ...

Came from judge leon, who was a bush appointee, who is not a liberal judge, who is not somebody who was appointed by a democratic president i think is really important. i think a lot of these things help to sort of change the public tide and i think change very much so what it is that he was trying to do and trying to say. i think thats having a huge impact. when does edward snowden leave rub russia? i dont know. where does he go? im sure thats still an open question and he doesnt know either. b...

Interesting dynamic movement on the nsa issues on capitol hill. this has been pushed to the side for quite a while now. you had fights or the budgets, squabbles or changing the nsa rules. you have a number of competing bills, theres one that would require the nsa to disclose more about what type of data it collects and how many times its violated its own internal security safeguards. my guess that comes up in a pretty good way at the beginning of next year and you have on the house side as well,...

Fairly narrowly defined standard actually kind of means if the only wins in the nfl that count are what you showed last night in detroit. the only wins you matter are ones you get on a field goal. thats not true when it comes to foreign intelligence. >> jeremy peters. >> general, reasonable people can disagree just how far congress should go in limiting the nsas ability to collect this kind of data but one area where there is a lot of bipartisan agreement is on requiring greater disclosure. do y...

Side. ive seen instances where the ability to collect data really did thwart potentially catastrophic events and so, you know, i really wonder what this debate would be like if god forbid one of those events had happened or happened now and so, you know, the presidents responsibility is to balance all of these interests and its a difficult line to walk. so well see what he comes up with. but theres no doubt that hes poised to do something. >> david, after what you just said, what would the debat...

This information is regularly updated. and again, it catches most americans who use cell phones or land lines. what the court is saying since 1979 when meta data was first held constitutional, the world has changed and this amount of information allows the government to create a virtual identity of american citizens that use any kind of telephone and so that is invasive of the fourth amendment. i think again, its somewhat lichlted finding for the following reason. if they were to find ways of li...

Are ways, you know ive never understood why they have to grab the data from the companies why cant the companies keep it and then the government gets it when they have to -- you know if theres cause. if theres some reason for them to go after. so i think -- look, i think the race now for the administration is to come up with a reform that makes it so that this court decision essentially they can abide by it where they say, you know what, hes right weve reformed the system so were not doing this ...

But, again, courts arent well positioned to judge that. two political branches, the president and the conditioning will have to stand for re-election and live with the consequences of these kinds of decisions are actually better positioned to make that judgment. >> katty, you have a follow? >> obviously because this is a secret program it sometimes is hard to understand the efficacy and the american public doesnt know very much the. is it possible to have a forum where the government goes forwar...

This issue, the smaj case of 19 -- the smith case of 1979 that said there is no reasonable expectation of priefs in the case -- privacy in the case of meta data on phones. so it was acting within the current understanding of the constitution. what leon is arguing is that the use of this phone, the way this information is more detailed today, is different than it was in the 70s and thus it is an invasion of the fourth amendment. but that issue is yet undetermined and there is no definitive ruling...