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And white dots symbolize white supremacist events and propaganda or anti-semitic incidents and in 2018 and 2019 and based on this methodology you approximate over 6,700 incidents of extremism or anti-semitism in the united states. when you break down the numbers sthar , is that a rise from the past and we talk about the tangibles but what is in the now so that were not sitting here again having the same conversation that keeps ongoing? >> so the rise in hate crimes are real and the rise in anti-...

Changing moods every day. >> potentially. theyre compartmentalizing, like the president himself. you see the president acknowledge that he thinks impeachment is an ugly word, at the same time insisting its to his benefit at the polls. not all public polls bear that out. the white house may have some private polls theyre not sharing. theyve shared some of them, but they havent shared their methodology so you need to take them with a little bit of skepticism. the president has this unique approach...

This well get into this throughout the next two hours of the show, it is the good economy the strong market. thats the back drop, and the president or republicans will keep season on that, they want to deflect attention from that. what do you think? >> i do think that and again, thats where the methodology comes from of withholding this. they want to keep impeachment in the news. they dont want to focus on other things, and so delaying that keeps it in the news, because if you send this over to ...

Us a letter. that was said. thats how it would be taken care of. the white house hasnt received all the documents its supposed to have. we are doing impeachment and they havent received the documents. i still have not received the documents. i have not received the documents. thats in direct violation. i dont know how we get around it, but we can pretend. heres another thing. the staff member they sent would not testify or answer questions on the methodology and how they did their investigation....

Something he didnt want he could write us a letter. he could write us a letter. a couple of these things. the white house has not received all the documents its supposed to have. were doing impeachment right now and they still havent received the documentps. i still have not received all the documents. i dont know how we get around that. we can pretend and paint pretty faces. also heres another thing. the staff member they send, mr. goldman, would not testify or answer questions on the methodolo...

Wants something neat and quick, get it out of the way, out of peoples minds before 2020. >> again, youre right to point out that the president sometimes says things in public and works crosswise in private, but what he said there officially is that hes going to defer to the mcconnell only the length and its up to mitch. just real quickly so it doesnt get buried in this five, six page letter. but the campaign just put out some privat polling which gives sense of how the white house feels now. and...

American policy on ukraine, i do think it was appropriate. i know some people dont like that. >> you said you werent -- >> i didnt like the point about rudy giuliani and the phone call. i think this was an official call. rudy giuliani wasnt working in an official capacity. i didnt like that part of it. but lets be clear. theyre not trying to impeach donald trump over the part about rudy giuliani. i think were having an american conversation about does this meet the threshold for impeachment and ...

Irregularities, these statements, these omissions were not satisfactorily explained. and i think that leaves open the possibility to infer bad faith. its premature now to reach a judgment on that, but i think that further work has to be done, and thats what durham is doing. >>. >> bad faith, josh? >> its important to understand what the inspector general is. this is an independent body. well hear from him at the top of the hour as he testifies before congress publicly about his findings. what is...

Russians who clearly the bad guys and they wont go and talk and say what is this about. >> so the inspector general says he found no evidence to indicate that the fbis decision to start the investigation was based on political bias. do you agree? >> well, what he actually -- i think you have to understand what the igs methodology is. i think its the appropriate methodology for the inspector general. he starts with limited information. he can only talk to people who are essentially there as emplo...