conflicting agendas. one side wants prosecution. the other side wants public disclosure. at least for the time being, there will be at least some communication between the two, but it s almost always just a one-way street. prosecutors don t tell congress what they have, but congress will tell the prosecutor why they really want to give immunity so it s a difficult and delicate dance between the two, but certainly at this very early stage there won t be any controversy because there s no way that michael flynn will get immunity hat this very early date. jeffrey toobin, thanks very much. let s get more on all of this. democratic senator chris coons of delaware is joining us, a member of the judiciary committee and senate foreign relations committee. thanks for joining us. thanks, wolf. we just heard from manu raju saying that general flynn gave false statements to investigators. does that explain his decision to invoke potentially the in
reporter manu raju is standing by. manu, you re getting some new information about michael flynn. what are you learning? reporter: yeah, that s right, wolf. the house oversight committee has obtained a report from investigators who conducted an investigation interviewing michael flynn after he filled out his security clearance form in 2016 and in that in that report it says that michael flynn may have misled investigators about the sources of his foreign payments, whether or not the foreign trips, whether or not they were paid for by u.s. companies or whether or not they were paid for by foreign companies. now in this report, it apparently says mr. flynn did not say that these trips that he took, including a 2015 trip paid for by rt, the television network, was paid for by a russian-backed entity. he said it was paid for by, quote, u.s. companies, according to a letter released by elijah cummings, the top democrat on the house oversight committee saying that the committee should
way forward on their investigation and whether or not it conflicts in any way with special counsel s investigation, and one other point, wolf. mark warner also making clear that he wants to see documents about that meeting that the president had with russian officials in which he apparently shared highly classified information. he says the white house should turn over records about that meeting, and i asked him are you ready to subpoena for those records. he says he wants to confer with richard burr. he did not rule that how the. manu raju up on capitol hill with the late-breaking developments. thank you. let s get more in what all of this means. our senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor jeffrey toobin is with us. paul manafort, roger stone, they say they are willing to turn over documents, already have turned over documents to the senate intelligence committee. michael flynn s lawyers say he will refuse. just listen to what they say in a letter to the committee, and l
is ultimately prosecuted. what do you make of the argument made out by general flynn s lawyers made out in the lengthy letter to congress? we have to respect the first amendment right against self-incrimination, and i suspect his defense counsel, his lawyer is making an argument that given the current environment and the range of allegations of missteps or misbehavior by general flynn that he s at some real legal risks so i think frankly any court would respect the argument being made by his counsel. the fifth amendment, his right against self-incrimination. should flynn be held in contempt? well, i think you ll leave that to the relevant committees, but my hunch at this point, as jeffrey toobin just laid out, that we re very early on. we need to have coordination between bob mueller, the new special counsel who is leading the fbi the fbi investigation which is both counterintelligence and potentially criminal. i don t think he should be held in contempt out of respect for th
against him. multiple members of congress have demand that had he be investigated and even prosecuted. he is the target on nearly a daily basis of outrageous allegations, often attributed to anonymous shoreses in congress or elsewhere in the united states government which, however, fanciful on their face and you be substantiated by evidence, feed the escalating public frenzy against him. the letter adds, additionally, in the intervening time since the committee issued its subpoena the department of justice has appointed a special counsel to investigate these and other matters this. environment creates a reasonable cause to apprehend danger giving rise to ains could us tooal right not to testify, so will that argument work, jeffrey, or can congress still hold him in contempt? i think flynn s lawyers are on very solid ground here. you know, it doesn t take much to allow an assertion of a fifth amendment privilege. the courts have always been very deferential to individuals to