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possibilities, there should be, i think, a global emergency. and as -- keeps pointing out, it's just people are not rising to that challenge. >> greta thunberg, thank you so much for joining me on the show today. >> you marcano, thank you for coming on the show. >> no chomsky, thank you forever for the time, appreciate it. >> we should think black woman for what a bunch of white guys have failed to do four years, hold donald trump, hold a former president accountable for his alleged crime-ing. >> john legend, thanks so much for joining me on the show tonight. >> michael more -- >> judd apatow, thank you so much for joining me. >> what was it like to be back on the screen as luke skywalker? kind of back on the screen, aided by cgi, on the tv series the mandalorian? after all these years, like many, i whooped out loud when you arrive down on the fighting scene in the second season. >> i went over, they show me the footage, and a proposed this idea, and i was like -- found of saying. >> so it's a poor choice, it's either no to the ice cream or

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calendar, you're not gonna be able to skip certain days because it's your birthday or skip certain days because you got a nail appointment. you're gonna have to actually go face the music and that's what's playing out here. the dutch port is going off with lights and bells and whistles telling us all the warning things that we need to know. 91 indictments, faith -- a trillion dollars worth of debt. everything that we can see did not chisholm as a nominee, especially that he's got the moral compass, or the more like an ex murderer than a president, we have to do something right, here right now. this is our pivot, pointer last gasp as republicans. >> jeff, jim, michael, all our georgians in one place, thank you so much for joining me tonight. >> always a pleasure, thank you. >> meanwhile, the former president is trying to ratchet the pressure to get an impeachment inquiry launched against his successor, president biden. is the house speaker going to bite or is the threat of a backlash from moderates get him to back down? when migraine strikes, you're faced with a choice. accept the trade offs of treating? or push through the pain and symptoms? with ubrelvy, there's another option. one dose quickly stops migraine in its tracks. treat it anytime, anywhere

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fulton county grand jury. jim jordan, a former georgia state senator and attorney, and michael more, also a former u.s. attorney from georgia. michael, let me start with you. because what did you make of meadows taking the stand? how risky is this, potentially? >> look, it's a pleasure to be with all of you tonight. you know, it's unusual to see a criminal defendant get on the stand and give a testimony underwrote, the largest one is a shot away from. that what it tells me is his legal team in this case at least is thinking about making a complete record that the likely find its way before an appeal that court, and they need to get evidence out from him that will be unique to him. in other, words they want him to hear him talk about his job, how he perceived his duties, how he perceive the functions he was, doing to find out if he could meet that standard. and even if it's a low standard, and a low bar, to have this case for move to the federal court.

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just the drip drip of all the different strategies. i'm expecting 19 different approaches to battling these indictments. and the whole theory of it being campaign related or official related, at the end of the day, they're trying to argue that they have the right to challenge the election which they did have the right to challenge the election, and they actually got relief on that. they had three challenges to the election, but that similar to walking into a bank and, saying i won $11,780. and they tell, you you don't have $11,780. that's fine, you can't turn around and slides videotapes like they did -- you can't accuse people of regulations, you can see the operators on the atm's are crooked, and then expected to not be called up fraud. that's where this demarcation line of asking a challenging versus fraud. and that's a challenge i think they're sitting in. >> for all of this, michael,

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is that the strongest argument when michael was just talking about is the president wasn't subject to the hatch act, so if the president tells him to do something that violates the hatch act and because he's not somehow been -- does that mean that he is not responsible for a violation of the hatch act, meaning meadows? that's all circular, it doesn't make sense, and a really does underscore why you should never put a criminal, someone who has been accused of criminal activities like mr. meadows, on the stand undergrowth, especially this early in the case. >> one thing that someone highlighted earlier today, jeff, is in the memoir he was road after leaving office, meadows said that is trump's chief of staff was to, quote, tell the

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some of the rural counties with a vote, speed in here some of this real litigation. that's just the reality. i >> some of these indicted are saying -- i was listening to advice. and the other part is that -- everyone doesn't disagree that they did this stuff. it's on twitter, it's on the news, it's on video, they are just saying it wasn't illegal. >> that's right. because they thought they were moving forward with something that was right. >> we'll see what the jury decides. and if and when that happens it could be long time for now. thank you both for being with us. our two resident georgians -- michael moore and jeff duncan. up next the fbi is now involved in the state of georgia after the grand jurors who voted to indict donald trump there earlier this week are now

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know the situation well, michael more, and jeff duncan, the former lieutenant governor, and a key witness in this case. what do you make when you look at this board, this is your home state, you know lot of those faces? >> it's not surprising really at all, and i think they are using this idea of an unindicted coconspirators to put historian for some context on it. also let's look prosecutor reach a little deeper into the hole of the enterprise and pull the noose a little tighter around the group. it's a viable tool, it also helps keep cooperators in witnesses islamic is they recognize if they do try to do something against the story, against what they told under a foursome point, they can end up on the opposite side of the side of trump. it's a good tool, and i'm not surprised to see these people. when >> you think it could be potentially used to flip other country >> sure. >> and see what looks like for these 30 people. burt jones, he's the current

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this natn, and who ultimately corrupted by it. any turn they could've stopped and said, iss, enough this is going too far. didn't know better.e, perh most of them did know better. they were desperately trying to cling onto power after knowing they lost the election. nobody spoke, up no into the right thing, and that's why where they are today. >> we talked about this last night, michael, the courthouse put a document online earlier in the day. they now come out with another explanation, saying it was some sort of a sample that was being done as a test run. does that make sense to you? >> i think there's coordination that happens between a.d.a.'s office and a clerk's office. i wouldn't be surprised if they said, look, this is coming down tonight. we believe the grand jury votes, be ready. this will help you get your feels field in the computer, that type of thing. it was a mistake. it was a serious mistake. the reason, was it was like turning on the gas pump onto the fires of the people who want to find reason to think there is a conspiracy.