Outside. The next thing you know everybody looks and you hear boom, boom, boom i just ran as fast as i could to the nearest forest to hide. I called my mom. I saw some girl. She got shot in the kneecap. Had a bandage and limping. Fireman came and got her. She called me and said, mom, there were shots at the school. I turned around and got here as quick as i could. I got on the phone and told her to stay quiet, stay calm, breathe. And just waiting and waiting and waiting and finally they were leading her out of the school. Thank god shes okay. Thank god shes okay. Many others are not. This is the seventh School Shooting this year and the second deadliest since the Marjory Stoneman douglas in parkland, florida. Casey stegall is on the way to Santa Fe High School and joins us live on the phone. We jumped in the vehicle in dallas this morning the moment the news broke and we have been making our way down through the state of texas. Across houston. This community is about 36 miles or so to
Manhattan: Is this déjà vu or jamais vu? Randy Jurgensen’s opinion piece (“Is it the 1970s all over again?” Jan. 30) perhaps overstates the historical similarities.
is that the thing? this the third or fourth time where a fire alarm was used in a shooting situation. is it a case that you know the guys going in and we have seen many terrorists event around the world, they are trying to attract the students to go their way and the fire alarm might be one of those resources they use to get people to come in their direction? it is definitely a strategy. we saw a similar incident take place in parkland. the active shooter threat is constantly involved. in the path you didn t see so much of the fire alarm being used but in this event an parkland we see the fire alarm was utilized. i have heard and read conflicting reports that the attacker pulled the fire alarm. i read another report where the students pulled the fire alarm to help people evacuate. we don t know that for certain at this point. michael, this is your business. you do this all the time. you know the studies. you have done this again and
to have more information about how many people were actually shot? i believe we are getting another update at 3:00. we should have something in the next hour. dana: we are waiting for governor greg abbott making his way from austin, texas, to santa fe. he is briefed to give an update for us on the situation here. we know the president will be meeting meeting meeting with the u.n. secretary general. i mentioned it was going to be opened press but i think it will be unlikely. i didn t want to leave you with the impression that was going to happen. trace, are you with us here? i am, dana. i want to set the table if i can to update people. you see things in the lower half of the screen. there are reports that come in. we want to go with what we have confirmed. the sheriff came out and gave a news conference a short time ago. we are going to go with the sheriff and what he says. he says the death toll is under ten. for now you have heard eight, nine, ten. the sheriff said under ten. f
focused on the best practices, do what we can do today that we know that works and really make a difference. these events keep happening time and time again. but if we keep relying on the same failed strategies we can t expect a different result. something has to change. michael yorio the president of ssi guardian. good of you to join us. dana, he makes a great point. when you talk about changing the routine and the protocol we had a school shooting on wednesday. nobody was killed in that school shooting because the shooter was taken out quickly. but talk about the protocol of the school and this school was on it. they had barricaded themselves inside the classrooms using desks, using anything they could get in there there was no way anybody could get inside the classrooms near the area where the shooter was located. it s a very good point. dana: indeed. in fact, when grace johnson was saying that the teacher was reassuring them, they were surrounded by concrete. they were going to