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a tale of love and lust gone wrong. >> wrapped it around her neck. >> but could she be believed? >> i was sleeping around. i think i slept with half the town. >> was she out for justice or revenge? >> is it a perfect world? no. yes. >> he wasn't there! >> i'm lester holt. and this is "dateline." here's angela with "secrets and lies". >> on a frigid december morning on december 2008 in a tiny picturesque town on the banks of delaware a tragedy unfolded. >> 911. what's your emergency? >> the whole house is on fire. >> reporter: a deadly blaze burned a small country house to the ground and left behind in the ashes were secrets, love gone wrong, elicit affairs, friends turning against each other. it would take years town ravl the mystery of that fire haunting this town and those who loved the couple who once lived in that house, paul and catherine novak. the novaks had both grown up as city kids. paul was a new york city paramedic, a job that seemed the perfect fit. >> i wanted to be that person that would show up that would hemi parents and help my sister if she was in a car accident or something like that. >> reporter: but he also saw the dark side of city life, a little two close to home. >> i would do shootings and stabbings two blocks away from my apartment. >> reporter: in 2002, paul and his wife catherine went house hunting in narrowsburg, new york, a small hamlet in between the mountains. they didn't look wrong. >> it was the big red house, as she called it. >> reporter: catherine's brother michael and sister-in-law joanne said she worked hard to make the big red house a home. >> she was thrilled to have five acres, ten acres of property, and she loved it there. >> reporter: the perfect place for the perfectly matched couple. they seemed meant for each other right from the start. >> i liked her from the first moment i met her. she was very effervescent and very funny and very opinionated. i really liked that in her. >> so you really saw into the future the first time you saw her? >> yes. we ended up getting married, i think seven months later. >> two years after that their first child natalie was born. >> it was very special. >> reporter: catherine's mom christina was ever the proud grandmother. >> natalie looks so much like her mom. so much like her mom. >> what was it like the first time you laid eyes on your new daughter. >> natalie, well, it was like falling in love, like 1,000 times more than you ever have with any other person. natalie is just, you know, she's a part of me. >> reporter: four years later, along came nicholas. >> she was in her glory. and then to have a boy and a girl, which was good. >> things were all coming together. >> yep. >> she got directly engaged in the community, in the church she taught sunday school. she became a girl scout leader. on the school board, she did many, many things. >> reporter: and she did almost all of it by herself. paul was still working as a paramedic in new york city, more than 100 miles away. >> that's a big commitment. this is pretty far from the city. >> it's a two-hour drive. i was making it up here, the sacrifice was that i couldn't be home every night. >> reporter: and that, they soon discovered, can be tough on a marriage. >> we went to counseling for a year and she just felt that she never got a break, you know, from being a full-time mom. >> reporter: but they were both committed to making their marriage work. on their tenth wedding anniversary, valentine's day, paul surprised catherine with a ceremony to renew their wedding vows. >> i'm not a -- it was a big thing. i planned a little, you know, couple a day getaway and she was really taken by surprise by that. things were good for a couple months after that. >> reporter: it wasn't enough. the glow of that getaway faded and life became routine again. soon paul's eyes wandered to a much younger woman, someone from work. they had an affair and paul moved out, leaving catherine and the kids alone in the house. >> she was beside herself. she was absolutely hysterical. >> reporter: catherine's good friend and neighbor remembered when the marriage ended. >> she couldn't even get her breath. she was sobbing so hard. >> reporter: but catherine's family considered her the eternal optimist watching her move on with her life, putting all of her love and attention on her children. >> she was very focused on them. very engaged in their lives. did everything with her. >> sounds like that was important in her life anyway. >> uh-huh, absolutely. >> reporter: she was working at her children's school and had even been on a few dates. catherine was creating a life without paul. then in december 2008, sometime in the early morning hours, somewhere in her house, a fire started. >> the house totally on fire. it's on fire. >> when firefighters arrived, the big red house was a wall of flames. they had no idea if anyone was still inside. >> does anyone live there? >> yes, yes. there are kids. >> do you know if they're out of the house? >> i don't know. >> reporter: neighbors knew paul wasn't there. he was living in an amoupartmen three hours away with his new girlfriend. that morning he got a call from catherine's pastor. >> i picked it up and it was catherine phyllis. she goes, where are the kids, where are the kids? they're with me. what's going on. she goes, the house is on fire. >> reporter: firefighters worked for hours dousing the flames. when catherine's friend sue muller arrived, the fire was raging. she stood vigil for hours, waiting to hear news of her friend. >> all of a sudden the firemen were more concentrated in one area, looking down into the basement, and then the local funeral home was there with a body bag. i saw them bring the body bag down into the basement. >> reporter: in the destruction and muck of the basement, under massive pieces of what had been the house, firefighters found the remains of the family dog, and to their horror, the body of 41-year-old catherine novak. >> oh, no. oh, no. it can't be. i think it takes a while to grasp it. death is forever. >> what did you think when you heard that news? >> i was just a blank. a complete blank. what on earth am i going to tell these children? how am i going to tell them? she was a great mom. i didn't know how i was going to be able to even try to fill that void. >> reporter: the autopsy report said she was killed when heavy debris fell on her. catherine's death was officially ruled an accidental. >> she lived a courageous life. she was bold in the things she did. >> reporter: a tragic end to a life that held so much promise, but as you've probably guessed, the story didn't end there. for investigators, it was just the beginning. not everyone believed this was an accident. if it wasn't an accident, was it murder? it certainly didn't look that way until a second autopsy report came back. >> we knew she did not die in that fire. she died before the fire. >> he goes, why don't you take a polygraph test. ♪ [ male announcer ] can't believe you can pronounce everything in it? believe. new deliciously simple from i can't believe it's not butter! with 100% taste and zero artificial preservatives. it's time to...believe. was voted product of the year, artificial preservatives. finish quantum better homes and garden's best new dishwasher detergent, and it has the good housekeeping seal. giving it more honors than ever before. take the finish shine challenge and see what it can do for you. 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>> they were nice. they just asked me, you know, about kathy's last whereabouts, if i knew she had any boyfriends at the time, if she had been in the house, utilities in the house that may have had a problem, things like that. >> reporter: the interview was very routine but the investigation at the scene was not. fire inspectors couldn't figure out what ignited the blaze. they checked the wiring, the appliances, the pellet stove, theclusiveonclusive. but then things changed. the d.a. brought in a specialist, a forensic pathologist to the a second autopsy a few days later. and the results this time told a different story. >> we knew she did not die in that fire, she died before the fire. >> reporter: the second pathologist discovered there was no carbon monoxide in catherine's blood or soot in her lungs, which meant catherine had stopped breathing before the fire started. she changed the manner of death from accidental to pending investigation. >> the question is, what else can we gain or learn before we can start to classify this as a homicide? >> who do you look to as a suspect? >> the state police had done some initial interviews. obviously the spouse is the first person you looked to. the spouse had a clear alibi. >> reporter: paul and his new girlfriend was far from the beloved red house when the fire broke out. a three-hour drive away in their apartment on long island. still, investigators didn't just take the couple's word for it, they made a request. >> he goes, we want you to take a polygraph test. >> did you feel like you were almost on a tv show at that point? >> yes, it felt like "law and order," a bad episode of it. >> when did he get the results? >> a few minutes later and said, okay, you're done. you passed. >> he was driving home from the interrogation and he was hysterical. >> paul's sister had never heard him so emotional. >> he was crying and saying they asked me if i killed her and he just sounded so unbelievable that, you know, he was being asked these questions. >> reporter: so if it wasn't paul, investigators needed to look for other suspects. >> the state police did a complete canvas of the area. anybody who had any connection to catherine novak, the state police reviewed, found, interviewed. >> reporter: but after many months and no leads, investigators hit a dead end. the case turned cold. none of that mattered much to catherine's mom. >> i still miss my daughter the same. i miss her no matter what happened to her, i miss her. >> reporter: seven months after catherine's death, paul and his girlfriend packed up the kids and their apartment on long island and moved 1,000 miles south to florida. >> i figured with my experience that it would probably be pretty easy for me to get a job somewhere. >> kind of a fresh start? >> a fresh start. i thought it would be good for the kids, great school, nice neighborhood. >> reporter: but paul said not long after their move, things with michelle started to sour. when they first met, she was a paramedic in training. he was her teacher, her friend. she had confided in him about her history of mental illness, long bouts of depression, and alcohol abuse. but now he says her problems were beginning to take a toll on their relationship. his young daughter, a sore spot. >> she was very jealous of natalie and her mental issues definitely became more apparent as time went on. at one point she actually threatened to commit suicide inside my own house. >> reporter: this was no surprise alona and her mom who loved catherine but never approved of michelle. >> what are your first impressions of michelle? >> we didn't like her. >> why? >> she walked into my mother's house and she immediately wanted catherine's pictures turned around because she felt like catherine was looking at her. >> reporter: paul said it took him a bit longer than his family to realize he and michelle were not the best match. they had been together for three years when he found out she was cheating on him with a married man. >> she didn't want to stand for that so he asked her to leave. and he did it very nicely and she didn't want to go. >> reporter: in what paul described as a bitter breakup, he forced michelle to move out and told her it was over. by that time it had been more than two years since catherine's death. investigators back in new york had moved on to other cases. the years were ticking by with no new leads. but the d.a. was a patient man. >> we never put the file away. it was always a matter of when something is going to come forward, we'll be ready to go forward. >> we never accepted an accidental cause of death, ever. >> reporter: his patience would be rewarded. a break in this cold case was coming and it would surprise everyone. coming up, a surprise knock at paul novak's door. >> my girlfriend comes in and she goes, there's something fishy going on outside. there's two police detectives outside and they want to talk to you about a hit and . years had passed since catherine novak's body had been discovered among the blackened ruins of his big red house. but the passage of time didn't make it any easier for her mother. >> it's the thing that never happens to you, it always happens to someone else. it doesn't happen to you. you don't lose a child like that, such a horrible way, a fire. >> reporter: catherine's brother michael and his wife joanne had stopped asking questions, choosing instead to accept they might never know what really happened to her. >> to take catherine's perspective, she would look for the positive side, the good things, and she would want us to move on. and you know, that's what we tried to do. we made our peace with it. we went on living. >> reporter: but as time went by in the little town, dark suspicions were whispered from neighbor to neighbor. and one name kept coming up, catherine's estranged husband paul novak. her close friend, sue muller. >> i was angry as time went on and i thought more and more about it and i thought that paul might somehow be involved. >> reporter: as she looked back, she was particularly haunted by the way paul acted the day of catherine's memorial service. >> it's the whole congregation were sobbing so loud. i mean, pastor couldn't even finish her sermon. i went up to him and hugged him. i kind of was struck about how he showed no emotion. after 11 years of marriage, that she might have meant a little bit more to him, that he might shed a tear. but i didn't see any. >> reporter: but there was no evidence that paul had anything to do with catherine's death, no dna or fingerprints at the crime scene, no witnesses, he had even passed a polygraph test. but he had an alibi for the morning of the fire. he was three hours away with his girlfriend michelle in their apartment on long island. paul continued to enjoy his new life in florida with his two children, working again as a paramedic and now dating a new woman he had fallen for quickly on match.com, kat dell grasso. >> we started texting and we made a date. and we went on a date. really, it was -- >> was it instant? >> instant. instant. >> what was the attraction? >> i don't know. it's really hard to put your finger on something like that. we just seemed to have an immediate connection. there was zero stress talking. no uncomfortableness. >> reporter: their romance blossomed and she eventually moved in with paul and his kids. >> do they look up to him? >> they worship him. they completely worship him. he's always up with them, checking homework. we do a lot of things as a family. >> is it a nice life? >> uh-huh. wire really happy. really, really happy. >> and then you get a knock at the door. >> yep. yeah, that was a tough day. >> reporter: it was an early morning in september 2012, four years after catherine's death. >> i was asleep. i was -- i just got off work. i worked 12 hours at the hospital. and i remember my girlfriend comes in and she goes, there's something fishy going on outside. two police detectives outside and they want to talk to you about your car being involved in a hit and run. >> reporter: but when he arrived at the police station he saw a familiar face and realized this had nothing to do with a car accident. >> this is investigator kelly from new york. so i'm like, okay. so he sits down and he grabs a chair and he's like a foot away from me. and then i remember him. he's the guy that grilled me, the one that got in my face. >> how are you feeling? oh, my gosh, these people are back in my life, four years later? >> at that point i still didn't know what they wanted from me. i knew this guy was celling at me. i looked at him and said i would like to speak to a lawyer. >> reporter: paul had already been interviewed by police several times. he thought this was all behind him. >> you knew it had to be about catherine. >> yeah, obviously, it had to do something about that. >> reporter: later that day the police went back to paul's house. >> and i went outside in the driveway with them and they said, we're sorry to have to break this to you but paul novak is under arrest. i said, for what? they said, for involvement in his wife's murder four years ago. >> reporter: what kat and paul didn't know is that a witness had come forward telling police an evil tale. and in that story, paul was the villain. >> they arrested you -- right there. >> did they put you in jail right then there? >> yes. >> the story the witness told was chilling. >> have a seat there. >> revealing dark secrets, but was it true? 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wife, he insisted he was innocent. are you the evil murderer that some people think you are? >> no. not at all. >> any reason to kill your wife? >> no, no, absolutely not. i mean, i -- when i left catherine, i probably wasn't in love with her anymore, but i respected her and she was -- she is the mother of my children. >> reporter: for catherine's brother michael the upcoming trial felt like opening an old wound. >> part of me wished i didn't get that phone call because i knew how traumatic it would be to the family and especially how traumatic it would be to natalie and nicholas. >> reporter: catherine's mom also knew a trial would mean more heartache for her grandchildr grandchildren. >> i can only imagine how i feel as my child. i can't imagine how they would feel with now the loss of both parents, in essence. >> all rise. criminal court is in session. >> reporter: on august 12th, 2012, the trial of paul novak began. the district attorney opened the case. >> the evidence will show that as catherine begged and fought for her life, the defendant ended her life. murdering her in the basement of her own home. >> reporter: prosecutors set out to prove that paul orchestrated this murder down to the last detail. >> he was planning this for a period of weeks and maybe more in his own mind, of how to rid himself of catherine. >> he's a murderer. he's a sociopath. he planned, he executed, and he killed catherine novak in cold blood. >> reporter: their star witness was paul's ex-lover michelle lefrance. the jury heard every minute of those police interrogation tapes of michelle describing the details of how he killed his wife. >> he told me that they were fighting and they were rolling around the basement stair -- floor for like 45 minutes. and that she was screaming and begging him for her life. >> reporter: and the jury didn't have to just take her word for it, prosecutors called scott sherwood, paul's partner from work to the stand. they told the jury he had been interrogated by police and showed them the tape. >> let's go from the beginning. you meet paul where? >> i met paul at his house in glen cove. >> reporter: jurors heard him tell police his version of what happened the night of the murder. >> so he gets in your red blazer. who is driving, you or him? >> i was driving. we were driving up towards where his residence was, where catherine still lived. >> reporter: sherwood said paul told him to park a mile away from catherine's house and wait in the car. >> about how long was he gone from the car? >> over an hour. >> and what does he say when he gets in the car? >> he said, it's done. he had said that the chloroform didn't work. i had to strangle her. and something about hitting the gas line to ignite -- >> so you knew the house was on fire? >> yes. >> reporter: as scott sherwood's story played in the courtroom the prosecutors pointed out how remarkably similar it was to michelle lefrance's. >> did he say where he strangled her? where in the house? >> in the basement. >> reporter: prosecutors felt these matching stories were powerful but didn't think they would be enough to get a convection. they wanted physical evidence to prove michelle and scott were telling the truth. they began with sherwood's account of the drive up to narrowsburg. sherwood had told investigators paul asked him to stop at a walmart. >> when you get into the middle town area he said, you stopped where? >> at a walmart. >> and he went inside? >> he went inside. >> you waited outside? >> waited outside. >> and then he came out with a bag? >> yes. >> do you know what he bought? >> i believe duct tape. >> reporter: prosecutors showed jurors what investigators found when they visited that walmart. >> the state police found a receipt, only one receipt out of 30 registers that had three things on it, duct tape, a hat, and gloves. scott sherwood told us that he used tape to tape up the scrub, hat, and he had gloves on when he went and copy back from the house. >> reporter: and there was more physical evidence to back up sherwood's account. he told police he and paul crossed the george washington bridge on their way back to paul's place the morning of the murder. >> was it a toll you guys went through? >> i would assume so. i guess it was the lower level but there was no -- there was no attenda attendant. >> reporter: no attendant saw them pass but detectives wondered, could digital eyes help place the car at the toll boot. >> state police did the search for the ez-pass records or toll records at that vehicle and we had a hit of 6:39 of that vehicle coming across the george washington bridge lower level. >> that's huge. >> it was a highly piece of evidence. >> what's more, there was a photo snapped of the license plate. it was evidence that almost didn't exist. prosecutors said paul had planned to pay cash that night but construction at the toll booth forced him to drive through the ez-pass lane. >> he couldn't have anticipated that the bridge would be under construction and no toll takers. >> reporter: and then prosecutors presented a what they thought would be any smudge of doubt from the case, a third person who linked paul to the murder, elise hamlin, scott sherwood's wife. on the stand she recalled a conversation with paul where he told her that he committed to murder and that he did it alone. >> scott had nothing to do with it. no way scott is going to get in trouble. >> he told her, i went up there with him me drove. i went in. y everything. >> three people, three different room, they're telling us the same thing. you may not be able to say we have a fingerprint, dna, but that's pretty damning evidence. >> reporter: the last piece that the prosecute needed was motive. why would paul want to kill his wife catherine. simple, money. when catherine died, paul cashed in on her life insurance policy and homeowner's insurance. it all totaled around $700,000. >> the defendant said he would kill catherine and burn up the evidence, and he did just that. >> reporter: now it was the defense's turn to attack. jurors would hear more about the checkered past of the witnesses at the very heart of the case. coming up, and what a very checkered past some of those witnesses had. >> i was sleeping around. i think i slept with half the town. it was the defense's turn. paul novak would not take the stand to proclaim his innocence. >> my decision not to testify. >> reporter: instead, his defense attorney gary greenwall did the talking. >> i'm going to tell you you're going to have reasonable doubt. >> reporter: his argument, don't believe everything you hear. consider the source, consider the mental states of the key witnesses, consider their possible motives. he started by attacking paul's ex-girlfriend michelle lafrance, the woman paul had thrown out of his house. >> she was a liar. she was manipulative, willing to take whatever steps necessary to hurt paul. >> reporter: the defense tried to portray her as unstable, offering evidence of everything from suicide attempts to a bizarre drunken incident involving the police. >> it took six officers to take me down. i apparently had to be handcuffed to a tree. topless. i had bruises from fighting -- from fighting the tree. >> reporter: the defense attacked her credibility and used her own words to portray her as a liar who carried on a string of affairs with married men. >> i was sleeping around in mattituck. i think i slept with half the town. >> she was probably one of the most people who had ever testified in court. >> reporter: scott sherwood suffered from serious mental health issues. >> scott sherwood from the time he was 8 years old buzz being treated for major psychiatric problems. one of the crucial pieces of evidence was his psychologist who testified that when he was put into a conflict situation, would say whatever was necessary to get out. >> i think who some people are going to have a hard time wrapping their head around is why three separate people would all lie. >> the reality is, i take eliesse of the of the picture because she lied to support her husband. scott had a psychiatric problem and he was manipulated in my opinion michelle. michelle was a woman scorned. >> reporter: the defense argued their stories were tainted because michelle had been given full immunity when she agreed to testify against paul and sherwood made a plea deal for a reduced charge and a sentence of three to 12 years in prison. defense went after the evidence that seemed to support sherwood's story, specifically that photo of sherwood's license plate taken the morning of the murder. >> one piece of evidence that seemed pretty damning is the ez-pass record that showed scott sherwood's suv crossing the george washington bridge at can t. right time for this crime. >> the answer to that is very simple, it proves nothing. there's a picture of the license plate. there's no picture of who is in the vehicle. how do you know as we're sitting here now that scott sherwood or possibly michelle were not in that vehicle? the answer is, you don't. >> reporter: and greenwall dismissed that receipt from the walmart in middletown. is it just a coincidence that someone went into walmart around 1:30 in the morning, the morning of catherine's death and bought a hat, gloves, and duct tape, all the things that were supposedly used in her murder? >> okay. first of all, mr. sherwood admitted under oath to me that he got to middletown at 12:00. he never could have been there at 1:30 or so because he was out by 12:15. >> reporter: still, dlfs there n age-old motive, money, to explain away. in our interview paul himself had an answer for that. are you having any financial issues at this point? >> actually, at that point i was in a much better financial situation than i had been previously because i had ended up getting a second job at a hospital in queens which was very high paying. >> reporter: then greenwall called what he said was his most crucial witness. they wanted to use him to untds mine a key part of the prosecution's case. remember, scott sherwood said that after the murder he and paul drove home to paul's house. >> did you go straight to paul's house when you came back? >> yes. >> reporter: but on the stand, paul's landlord disputed that. he said he had been outside setting up for a photo shoot starting in the early morning and didn't lay eyes on either of them. >> how could the man be out there and never see scott sherwood or paul? you're going one way. it didn't happen. >> reporter: the landlord's testimony was proof, the lawyer argued, that scoot sherwood had made up his story. the defense closed its case claiming the prosecution had not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that paul was a killer. >> paul novak is not guilty. and we ask you to find that. >> reporter: after seven weeks the jury finally began to deliberate, going into the trial paul was certain they would find him not guilty. >> your life is on the line. >> yes, my life is on the line. but i think the truth will come out in the end and hopefully -- hopefully those 12 people will know the true story. >> reporter: his fiance kat told us before the verdict she will stick by him no matter what. >> i believe in him. >> have you thought about your wedding and where it will be, when it will happen? >> i actually already bought my dress. >> reporter: kat's future and so many others would be determined by what the jury decided. for catherine's family, the waiting was the hardest part. >> i truthfully did not know what it was going to be. no matter which way you went with it, it was emotional. no winners. >> reporter: almost five years after catherine novak's murder, so many secret, lies, and betrayals had been revealed. so many questions raised. would the jury believe paul's ex-lover and his ex-partner was all a ruthless killer or had he been set up? it took two days of deliberations. on the third day they had made a decision. the verdict was? >> how do you find in the case of the state of new york versus paul novaks to count i murder in the first degree? >> guilty. >> reporter: guilty, convicted of first degree murder. paul showed only a slight head shake as he was convicted of all choornlgs against him, including insurance fraud, grand larceny, and arson. >> how are you feeling right now? >> not very good. >> reporter: paul now faces life in prison. he will be sentenced later this year. his lawyers said he will appeal. but michelle, who knew about the murder plan from the beginning, walked away a free woman. >> a lot of people will be angry and think this woman knew about a murder that was going to happen and didn't do anything. >> i can think of hundreds of people, thousands of people who know about a crime and don't come forward and say a word. >> it us didn't make it okay. >> is it a perfect world? no. will she get hers? yes. when she dies. >> reporter: the future for the children will be decided by the people who love them most, paul and catherine's families. >> we will work to get to those kids what catherine wanted for them. >> reporter: up in narrowsburg where catherine novak's beloved red house once stood, the trees glow orange and gold. five autumns have come and gone. her mother still mourns the daughter she lost but remembers the life she lived. what do you miss most about her? >> her smile and her hugs. she was a lot of fun, catherine. she enjoyed life. that's all for now. i'm lester holt. thanks for joining us. . i just heard a bang. >> that's when i screamed. >> no way i'm going to survive this. >> longest 40 seconds of my life. >> the plane just kept getting closer and closer. they're coming at each other like magnets. >> all i see is this big fireball. >> you heard the pilot yelling. >> that's what i have the most nightmares about is his screams. >> we have a report of a possible airplane crash. >> half the people i knew just went down with the plane. >> we lost 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a space channel without any judgment. i myself work for a space on the channel and in fact, the great value in, in a national effort to try to shape the global story. but i noticed that when you talk to some of our western colleagues they, they're always to be skeptical. it's not condescending, all of your affiliation. if this your delineation somehow influences the quality of your work. you have, you have any, anything to say. i the reason why i have to correct people almost all the time, including my colleagues from our team, for instance, is because i believe this is part of the essence to use perception to shape people's understanding of the world. because in a western context, the word state is almost has very naked connotation towards its opposed to the people. it represents power that is not necessarily representing the interest of the people. it is kind of viewed as the opposite side. whereas in the eastern context, for instance, it is very different. and so i don't, i don't want to be given that label before i open my mouth, which is the case every time. and i don't know about your case on twitter for instance. we are, we are given the label status in the media, which immediately gives people the impression that we are also credible or what we say propaganda. so be very, very careful. whereas, whereas those people who work for money, you know, they're not given the, the, the tag, copper media, for instance. if you look at the state or on media, we have many state broad media by the way, all over the world. you mentioned this distinction, perception and reality, and you heard my introduction this, this much is i think very central to how western media operate. and since you catered to an international audience, i'm sure you encounter the facts of it in your work. but do you subscribe to, do you believe that's perception trumps to reality rather than the other way around? i think perception is, unfortunately a way how human beings see the world, whether we like it or not. and that is used sometimes for good cause. sometimes for a bad cause it can be weaponized. everything we are doing in journalism is about perception because you are hearing me talking about china all about myself. and it is your perception that will make up your mind what you see, what you get, or what you the kind of image you can do in your brain. so perception is, is absolutely critical, but how do we make sure that we don't manipulate perception so that people have the wrong or a very, an impression or reality that is very much twisted or very distant from reality. i think that is the challenge because nobody is able to give reality 100 percent as it is. but how close are you able to give it and how to for how genuinely, professionally repaired professionally. you're trying to do a job do a job. i think that is the biggest challenge really. i mentioned we what are in my introduction, the use republican strategist, who in my you influence the american political, immediate communications for decades to, to come. and he also played on this very emotional badge issues. and all sorts of unscrupulous means he truly believe he was very open about it, that any means justified the goal. and it also needs to be at the and died very young of, of a brain tumor. i wonder if you think that the approach of trying to let me place the perception so that you have the reality that you live, you can actually ural doesn't tend to sort of choke up on its own content over a pretty short period of time. miss protection is very made if you're very good at it. for instance, if you work in the media and you know how to do it, you can do a very good job and manipulating public opinion. you can paint white as black. you can, you know, totally trust reality and sometimes not even by lying, sometimes just by picking what you want to pay or putting things in a certain order or putting human emotions into one side of the story. well, while not giving irrational analysis of the whole picture, and that's why we're moving in on a daily basis. not just what we see in our hands on tv and our phones, but also how we produce constantly as journalists as to the present. and so it is, i have to say it is part of human nature that we are prone to manipulate. it is also the beauty of human life that we are emotional animals. the challenge is whether we're able to cultivate our literacy, our ability to distinguish what is miss information, what is distant, what's, what's perception, what's reality, and how we can ourselves, with the ability to say, okay, this is perceived in this way. but what is the reality that we're in a constant pursuit of truth as closely as close as possible? you know, as i was surprised that the conversation i came across your interview with a b c, i think it was last year where the journal, if the sterling journalist tried to really on the state of freedom in china and how supposedly constricted it is in comparison to the west and fast forward one year. and i'm sitting here in moscow with my channel being taken all the air, all social media for explicitly legal reasons. to me it's not even ironic. i think there's something barry to tell the terry and then that that's why i wanted to try to trying to table here and ask you about this. they've all media freedom in the west. as you see. i think at this moment we see it's really clear what they mean by freedom of press, right? when freedom of press is in other country, they're defending it. they're even paying money. the latest us competes act allocates actually $500000000.00 us dollars to you know, false so, so called independent media in, in china, basically to malign china. but when it comes to freedom of press in their own countries, i'm not sure whether they will be leading by example, despite their claims. as you said, r t is taken all which is out of the reach by the regulators. i understand it is not done due to so due process. you know, there are all kinds of bottom lines that have been just totally ripped apart because i guess it's a war on the west and russia is waging. and for them it's just totally not possible . and everything russian seem to have become a target. so where's the freedom of expression bed? so i think it is the lane, it is laid back in front of the rest of the world. what they really mean by freedom, by freedom of expression, how unified their standard really is. are you know, the problems. they are always right. when it comes, you know, they can never be wrong. so like, so long as they are on the right side of history. if they have western liberal style democracy, you know, it seems like they can justify everything they do, even if they are wrong. they do it and they still say they are right. and that is that kind of exceptionalism. that kind of double spend that i think is really a huge problem. is that really exceptional is or isn't supremacy. i mean, i don't know how you approach, but i think you're one of the most eloquent english speaking grades. i'm not trying to be sacrificing here with you. true. have very good come out of the language. you not only to read off news, news, all other queue, but also in live debate in analysis. and that's a huge effort. i mean, if somebody call to speak english as that as a non native language, i understand how much word goes into that. and yes. in interview after interview, i can see you not being discounted, but sort of kept as, as somewhat not on par with all the people who speak english fluently, a job by the nature of being born in the country. i mean, do you think our colleagues, our western college, understand how much human effort goes into what we do, not just state firm but basic human effort into even being able to deliver what we are trying to deliver in that language. and also within the framework over there will be busy on not only learning the language, you're also learning the culture the will be there for. i think one, it would be good here. it's their house. so we have to follow their rules. and if you want to speak to an international audience, which is, you know, prevalent in english, which is english speaking primarily, you have to learn their language. you hampton them, their culture. and i've been doing, i was an english language major when i was in university that was in, in last century. and i've been using english all these years i've, i've had so much discussion sometimes in my spare time i, i talked to myself, i asked myself questions. there's so much thinking that's going on. so much discussion so much reading. why not? because i like it or mad or something because these are the questions that, that we want to. i'm so how can we talk to people in other parts of the world who don't speak chinese? i have to reach out to them and i cannot wait for everybody to, to, to be able to speak chinese because been, we will never understand each other. so i want to, i want to reach out. i want to go over, but it's very, very difficult. 25 years i've been, i've been, i've been working in this profession. i love it. i'm enjoying it. and i'm ever more energized and empowered, but it's not been an easy path. and that's why that's why i'm angry. i'm angry when people say, oh, you come from to state, meet a doing propagandized say excuse me. there are thousands of people more than thousands, tens of thousands of people working, streamline, hard to bring information from one language from our native language was which is chinese to you. and you say one word propaganda. you discredit everything. that's why i'm, i'm extremely angry. don't, don't, don't mess with that because i won't take, but i remember that back in 2019 you had a bit of an argument with the fox news hoss. you described her as being all emotion, little substance. and i think that was the criticism, but i want to ask you, why do you think emotionality, rather than critical thinking, have become such a dominant feature of western broadcasting because arguably, is easy for them to not only come with being even english, but for some reason there's a very hearing determine, push and pull toys, emotionality and the 1st i have to say with all due respect to, to trish reagan, my kind of part in that debate. when i wrote that opinion piece which triggered the debate, i didn't mean to say that she was all emotions and no substance, but you see that's the problem. because i was thinking in chinese and i wrote the piece, i was actually saying her research was not well done, but i read it in the accuse had been, you know, or emotions a no brainer. but i guess, you know, that made her feel offended and she turned her personality or even her. so my question is more about the approach to org. when talking about emotion, emotionality, we mentioned that just now i think we are all emotional animals. that's why life is so beautiful. that's why life is so easily manipulated. that's why we so credulous as well. that's why we as journalists, who, who are people who shape who can shape people's minds, have such a huge responsibility that we do not use in motion in excessive in a manipulative way. sometimes there are true emotions which have to come out and it can be extremely powerful, know, showing away from the motion. but when you are you making a motion to push your political agenda. i think that is a very dangerous thing. so both as a reader, both as a consumer information and as a producer of the information, i'm extremely aware when it comes to emotion, i rather keep my tears in my eyes when i see something because i don't want myself to be manipulated by my emotions and according to western philosophy, actually what is freedom? freedom is when you are able to restrain your animal instinct and make the right choice. and despite your emotions, that is when you achieve true freedom. and i want to have that kind of lead him and i want to give my audience the choice to has that freedom as well. do we have to take a very short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments in ah ah ah! in lisa hunter rushin state full narrative. i've started as i told them the most. i'm skiing with within the 55 with speedy when else with we will van in the european union the kremlin. yup. machine. the state on russia today and archie spoke next. even our video agency roughly all bands on youtube with . mm hm. ah, welcome back to world report with dtn anchor lou sheen. sheen i, what did you ask you about the coverage of ration military action in your crane from the chinese perspective. but before we go there, this is not the 1st conflict in the which russia and the west find themselves on the besides, we've been there in libya, in syria, on many other issues. and i wonder how the receive from so far away in the do you see that as a struggles within europe? us, charles, within the west or do you see russia as a separate entity? neither when there was no with the east or perhaps both here and there. i think it's really, it's really a very good question because the russia structural straddle europe and asia, part of you is where the west part of you is in the 8th. so russia is really in a very unique situation, and i think that kind of explains the kind of complex situation you are in. these are be the west. all these are the europe. sometimes i, i make mistakes. i say, look, i told my german interviewer, for instance, i said, no. russia is not going away. russia is right at your a. but after i say that as a russia is also part of europe. so this relationship love and hate, if you like it, between russia and europe, will very much determine how you get along with each other. but at the end of the day, you are not drifting away from, from each other. russia will all be there. geographically, europe will always be there during graphically you have to find a way to correct this and people are feeling the pay when you, when you start have to, when we are not able to do that. we open here for our western commentators that are in a final analysis, china with always with material or even monetary considerations. first about everything else. i think that's one of the reasons why many western animals were surprised by the russian rushes that brought the chinese reaction to russia's actions. it wasn't pro russian by any means. it wasn't also pro western, it was firm, but also very much aware context. and i wonder if you personally have noticed a change in beijing position in how vision presents itself on the international stage during this crisis. perhaps even before that, i wouldn't say i perceive to changing position because china, i actually wrote a an opinion piece on this since the start of the war. and i wanted to look at china's traditional foreign policy and to find out if there is any legacy that has been inherited. and i think it is very clear that china has the 5 principles of peaceful coexistence. for instance, none interference in each other's internal affairs, respect of sovereignty, and territory, and the integrity mutual respect, neutral benefits and peaceful coexistence, peaceful coexistence, basically is what russia and europe wants from each other. and i think in that we got chinese position has always been persistent, has always been the same. did you think trying to have become perhaps a little bit more for the coming in stating it's position a little bit? a little more blond if i may say so, because if i haven't noticed, i haven't noticed the change. let me, let me, let me repeat that. i haven't noticed the change just recently. the chinese state counseling, foreign minister said china want peace in ukraine. and i think from the very beginning that message is very clear. so i haven't noticed a considerable shift because john is also a friendly country with the ukraine. also friendly in terms with the west, also wants to be in good terms with the united states. and of course, russia is also extremely important for china. we have a very strong relationship back to back. so this piece and of course war is no good for anybody. so peace is the message, has always been the message. i think this, this is consistent. i also want to highlight for our audience how china reacted to be un drop resolution on russia. the actions and the chinese side specifically pointed out that the drug doesn't take into consideration the history complexity of the current crisis. the cation of the context of the chinese side, clearly points to it doesn't matter of ignorance on the part of the west, or do you think it's a deliberate tactic? well, i think nothing comes out of the blue. there is when there is a result. there's always a cause and i interviewed ordinary chinese people on the tree that well aware of the history, you know, the 5 rounds and nato expansion, for instance, towards russia. the very complex relationship between the people of ukraine and the people of russia. and what has happened in eastern ukraine since 2014. so there's not a clear cut right or wrong, or who did, who started the 1st shot or, you know, so to try to do that would be, or try to make things look like that would be counter productive because if you have a military conflict and most important thing is to find ways to stop it as soon as possible. so anything that is consider conducive to finding a peaceful and quick solution to the conflict is considered not in the interest of china and china. lee, i understand trying to believe that is not in the interest of world peace either. so that's why china abstain and that position is actually shared. and i think this piece of information does not understood widely by people in the west, adequately that, that position is actually shared by the great majority of countries in the world. you have 141 country voted in favor of that resolution you, in general assembly resolution, but you have 35 countries abstaining and 5 countries, including russia, voting against. if you take out the population of russia, the population of those who are against the resolution actually are the majority of people in the world. so i think that is a lot and the west didn't get the word they wanted. they didn't get people to agree to condemn russia on that. let me just typically because i found this fascinating, you know, you're saying that they didn't, didn't get the ones that i wanted. because in your analysis of that resolution, you make a clear distinction between the words can dump merican media, put them the headlines and the words deplore which was the features in the chair of the resolution. and you say that the choice of words was critical. therefore, would be out in that account. i mean the, the choice of course would have been different account would also have been different. how come a chinese journal is like yourself is more attentive, more sensitive to the variations of meaning in english them are a native speaking colleagues, isn't that ironic? i don't know. i asked the question too. sometimes. that's why sometimes i cannot tell whether it was an honest mistake or just information that that's the distinguished distinction between missing nation and distance. this information, i think as native speakers they must know the difference between contamination and deploy. by the way, it's to deploy in the strongest terms. so there's a slight difference there, but still to deplore and to condemn a different words to condemn is much stronger and it has a moral aspect to it. right? you condemn some something that is almost considered evil. so the, the one us, mainstream media television actually fed the un passes resolution to condemn russia. and if you look at the original text, it doesn't actually say it condensed the announcement of russia's military operation and ukraine. but it doesn't condemn russia's military operation in ukraine, per se applause in the strongest terms. so these are the details that often gets lost and that's why sometimes it is very different. it's very easy, but this information missed information to travel because people are lazy. how many of our viewers will go to the original source to, to, to look through all of the piles of documents that are hidden somewhere and to read, to go through the legal language. some of it is really not very human friendly and to find the differences between condemn and diploma. they would just say, oh, this particular this, well we got a television says so, so it must be the case. and my question, my job is to ask exactly what happened and why it happened. is that an honest mistake or was it something more than that? sometimes i can tell. i hope it's not just information. i hope it's just an honest mistake. i want to ask you something about. 1 would you just mentioned that the international audiences or viewers can sometimes be, well, i don't want to call them lazy, but i think people have been indulged in attainment for way too long and their attention are rather sure they not always want to get into the sort of so the issue is how do you personally decide how you can, of course, can be with you analysis without making your audience. but this is also a very interesting issue for me as well because i like thinking and analyzing. but i understand that some people don't take it easily. yeah. no, you know, i am kind of person that doesn't take no as an answer. and i just bought a motto of the human brain from cow, the chinese shopping platform. i say i am going to put the model of the human brain is half out of the box. i. i want to put it on the ball on the tables on all my colleagues and make them out of the box all the time because that's what we have to do. how we do our job in, in entertaining, easy to follow way that's, that's still extremely professional. and that is honest and fair and easy to follow . when i write by script i, sometimes i joke about it, i say, look to my audience. let's imagine they have primary school literacy level. let's not use huge words because they're not, they're going to scratch their heads. and then if they scratch one price, they're going to say ok, she looks nice, but i'm going to switch channels. i don't want them to. i don't want that to happen . so i try to make it interesting and i try to, i try to make, i try to illustrate what i say because the human, the human brain works in a way that when they see something, they tend to believe it. that's why more and more, if you go on social media, for instance, you see messages being being put into graphics instead of mere language typed words, because that is more effective when you want to send certain messages. and i noticed the us state department is doing more and more that i noticed more and more social influences trying to do that. sometimes i do that, but i try not to do because when you have to that, i'm like the where they want to say something that is very, very they, they want you to, to, to, to see. but yeah, it's a, it's a fascinating thing, but i think there is a way to do it without going low, without sacrificing the quality of the discussion and still bringing out the best discussion you can have. and so make it fun. that's best my aim. and if my opinion comes anything you do, it really is clear. thank you very much on this opportunity to engage the great pleasure for me. thank you so much. oksana the for the invitation and the best. luckily a job, keep it out and thank you for watching hope to see again next week on wells with with mm ah and that the deal good, i think is 70 percent of even 80 percent of survey of the blow for why serbia in the few see i won't do approach and it means i won't this best. but this one, me not a toyota, michelle paul, slowly to login and then we'll proceed with ah ah, new foot ish haired by chinese media revealed china preparing for military exercises in the taiwan straits. that off to the u. s. how he can. nancy pelosi touched on in type paid despite numerous warnings from beijing. china strongly condemned to visit to saying it will with a new key, defend its territorial integrity and urge as the us against violations of the one china principal. china strongly urges the united states to stop playing to tie one car and using 2 i want to contain china and.

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issue here at home. tariffs. the president said it was be foolish for gop lawmakers to try to block his plan to put taxes on all products from mexico. the tariffs set to kick in next week unless mexico does more. unspecified more to stop migrants heading to the u.s. border. critics say the taxes would hurt american consumers and businesses when the cost of goods goes up. if republicans vote to override president trump on this, it would be one of the party's strongest acts of opposition. mike emanuel reporting live from capitol hill. first john roberts who is traveling with the president and live in london. we wait for this event to begin. john, good evening. >> shep, good evening to you. we'll keep one eye going on what's going on at windfield house as we tell you about what happened earlier today. i had the opportunity to ask president trump a question about the mexico issue for the first time since mexican officials started saying publicly, really appealing to president trump that they have been doing more to apprehend central american migrants in southern mexico illegally and deport them from the country. the president though seemed unimpressed with this when i put the question to him saying that mexico has not done enough to avoid the tariffs which would be imposed monday at 5%. back to you. apparently there's an arrival. >> shepard: it appears prince charles and duchess camilla are here. we'll listen in to hear the greetings and the rest. >> shepard: now waiting to see if they'll speak. it's not scheduled. you never know. and a look inside before the dinner that the president and first lady are hosting. the president saying thank you very much. in they go. john roberts, the reviews largely have been glowing for all of this. the president hitting the right notes according to observer there's in great britain and of course here across the states. >> yeah, other than the critics of the president, like the opposition leader jeremy corbyn and the mayor sadiq khan, many people here in britain, this state visit has gone very well. i mean, the dinner the queen had yesterday and all of the pomp and ceremony involved with the president and the first lady being at buckingham palace was quite extraordinairextraordinar. only the third time that something like that has happened. it happened with president bush and president bush in 2003. it's a very high honor reserved for a small group of presidents. the general consensus is that things have gone very well in terms of this state visit. the meetings today with prime minister theresa may went very well. in addition to all of that, the two sides sat down, they talked about trade. we will get into brexit in just a couple minutes. there's real hope here that the united states and britain will have a trade deal in place for when the u.k. pulls out of brexit. let's talk about what we talked about at the top here. this is the president looking at what's going on in mexico and what mexican officials are saying in terms of trying to apprehend more central american migrants and the president deporting them. the president says it's not enough and tariffs will go into place on monday. listen to what the president said. >> i don't think they'll do that. if they do that, it's foolish. nothing more important than borders. i've had tremendous republican support. mexico called. they're going to meet wednesday. secretary pompeo will be at the meeting along with a few others that are very good at this. we'll see if we can do something. it's more likely that the tariffs go on and we'll probably be talking during the time the tariffs are on and they'll be paid. >> the president also took aim at republicans that might try to block him from imposing the tariffs. the president said he thinks it would be foolish if they did that. the democratic side, senator chuck schumer said he believes the president is bluffing. listen here. >> i have a feeling that this one just popped into his head. it's clear that lots of people in the administration didn't agree. i believe that he will back off when faced with the opposition among business, among his own republicans. when he sees when a dumb move he's made. >> the president believes that mexico can change this quickly if they made a decision to do that, shep. >> shepard: john, you mentioned the british planned exit from the european union and the work to get a plan together on that matter. >> yeah, this is what eventually led to the down fall of theresa may, that is stepping down as prime minister friday, the day after the president leaves europe after commemorating the 75th anniversary of d-day in normandy. she tried three times. didn't get it through parliament even though she did get a deal with the e.u. leaves a lot of political uncertainty as to what the way forward will be. the president has urged whomever replaces theresa may to go with a no deal hard brexit by the end of october. one of the deal that could replace theresa may, conservative politicians have suggested we have to have a deal with the e.u. and let's delay the brexit through 2020. both the president and theresa may believe that brexit eventually will happen. it's interesting the president pointed out a couple months ago, theresa may did not take his advice, which was to sue the european union. this is a great, great country. they want their own identity. they want their own borders. >> i believe it's in the best interest of the u.k. to leave the european union with a deal. the president suggested that i sue the european union. we didn't do. we went through negotiations and came out with a good deal. >> a lot of political turmoil going on in britain right now. with theresa may stepping down friday, the conservative party has to choose a new leader. a lot of jockeying over who that person will be. will that government be able to -- might there be elections called later in 2019 and how could those go. if there's a hard brexit, might that create more economic and political turmoil? right now a lot of things are up in the air right now, shep. nobody is sure at the moment where they're doing to land. >> shepard: all right. john roberts live in london. we're expecting video inside the state dinner and potentially at least some words from inside there. when that happens, we'll take you there. first, dave lawler from axios. good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> shepard: do we have a sense for how this is playing in britain and beyond? >> trump gave them a headline. he said this is the greatest partnership ever. there was a lot of nervousness that this would be an i'm -- embarrassment for theresa may. and there was the protests. there was worry that it would overshadow everything. if you're in downing street, you're happy with the way it's going. trump has been complimentary of theresa may. he's interacted well with the royal family. this is certainly perhaps a good outcome for theresa may and downing street. >> shepard: watching the video of the protesters there. it was yesterday that we reported that organizers of the protests suggested there might be as many as 250,000 people on the streets. that has not happened. not even close. there was a little rain this morning. that being said, the protests did not happen the way they thought they would. as far as how everybody seems to be getting along publicly, out so i of sadiq khan, the major of london, i mean, i don't know what more you can ask for. given the past especially with theresa may and the president. >> right. exactly. as you mentioned, the protests, we've been expecting the protests ever since this visit was announced. there was weeks of build-up to the protests. they haven't been quite as massive as the organizers had hoped and the people in the media expected. president trump has said he didn't see any big protests at all. it's all fake news. obviously they are happening, but the scale is smaller. like you said, his interactions with theresa may have been cordial. trump has said she deserves credit for the way she's handled things the last few months. obviously she's going out on a low note again having made brexit. while arriving during a political crisis, you can see the meetings devolving into just a spectacle and it hasn't quite worked out that way. i'm sure theresa may will be breathing a sigh of relief. >> shepard: she and her country and her party have a lot of work ahead even after she's no longer in charge come friday. dave, good to see you. thanks a lot. >> thank you. >> shepard: taking a break early today because we know what's coming up. we're going to have a look inside this dinner coming up in just a minute. we'll have more on the president's back and forth with his own party on capitol hill about taxes on mexican goods coming into the united states, whether or not members in hits own party get out in front of that. the president's warning. there's a slew of news and our reporting continues on this tuesday afternoon. why go with 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taken up temporary residence there and hosting the prince and the duchess this afternoon or this evening. it's 16 minutes past 8:00 british summertime. at the same time, there's back and forth with president and his own party in washington. the president is saying if mexico doesn't do more, nothing more specific than that, to stop migrants from getting in the united states, he's going to begin with tariffs right away. the republicans are pushing back on this and senator rand paul quoted as saying a short time ago that the senate may have a veto proof majority to stop the tariffs. so there's a back and forth that is happening now. mike emanuel with details on that. he's live. hi, mike. >> good afternoon. it's an awkward time for a lot of republicans on capitol hill. mitch mcconnell a short time ago was pretty blunt saying there's not much support among senate republicans for tariffs. >> what i'm telling you. we're hoping that doesn't happen. we appreciate the opportunity. we spent our entire lunch talking to representatives from the white house about this issue. uno the mexican delegation is here. apparently the talks a going well. >> this comes on the context of senate democrats are watching to see how republicans handle this issue. chuck schumer predicted the president will cave. when one senate republican said 5% might not be the end of the world, dick durbin fired back. >> it's negligible unless it's your company that will have to shut down. there will be an impact on the price of goods coming forth between the united states and mexico that will raise prices on consumers, cost american jobs and frankly it's going to hurt my farmers to be blunt with you. >> ahead of a huge meeting with top trump officials, mexico's foreign minister is due here to meet later this hour with nancy pelosi. mike? >> thank you. the white house sending out more orders for former government employees to ignore subpoenas from the house judiciary committee investigating president trump. this time the chief of staff, mick mulvaney is ininstructing annie donaldson and hope hicks not the cooperate with the judiciary committee. hope hicks is now communications officer for fox corporation. so far hicks has reportedly agree to turn over documents from her time with the trump campaign, but no word on whether either will comply with the committee's directive which includes a request for testimony on capitol hill. if they don't, will they be held in contempt of congress? the committee chairman, jerry nadler says, i assume so. catherine herridge reporting live from washington. catherine? >> shep, according to a new two-page letter to the house judiciary committee, the house council has directed two former aides not to provide records until the committee and justice department's agreement over sensitive material is complete. annie donaldson and hope hicks have been told not to produce documents. house republicans say it's about process, not about obstructing oversight. house republicans are ramping up william barr and don mcgahn. justice officials cite congressional privilege. in a letter it says -- >> earlier today the political divide was clear. >> what is clear is that house democrats are united around the principles that we're going to hold this lawless administration accountable. house democrats are united around the principle that no one is above the law. >> i think it's very difficult of how you can obstruct something that never happened. if you have no collusion, how can you have obstruction? because you can't obstruct something that didn't take place. >> a contempt vote is scheduled for a week today. a lot can happen in seven days, shep. >> shepard: thanks, catherine herridge. live on the hill. thanks so much. we're waiting the president and the first lady along with their guests in london this evening. we're expecting to have a look around inside their dinner in just a moment. first, a young couple from texas went to fiji on a dream vacation when 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to be perfectly healthy. the u.s. embassy in fiji released a statement. part of it reads -- >> the world health organization warned of a surge of cases of influenza in fiji that affect young adults. the who says the illness in fiji has killed four pregnant women. five locals that had district contact with david and michelle paul have been taken to a local hospital for observation. the couple leaves behind a 2-year-old son and david's daughter from a previous marriage. all authorities in fiji will say is that the couple died because of an illness. shepard? >> shepard: thank you, david lee. police are investigating the disappearance of a mother of five from connecticut. the police searched on a garbage facility about 70 miles from where she went missing in hartford, connecticut where investigators say they found jennifer dulos blood on clothing and sponges in a trash can. video show as man that looks like her husband dumping garbage bags in different locations. yesterday the husband and his girlfriend went to court on charges of evidence tampering and hindering the prosecution. according to court documents, dulos and her husband have been in a bitter divorce and custody battle the past two years. court papers quote her as saying she was terrified for her family's safety. laura ingle rolling from connecticut. laura? >> shep, state and local investigators have been searching all kinds of areas around the state of connecticut and now we know with the release of the arrest warrants yesterday what they have been after. much of the evidence came from the house here behind me, this is where jennifer dulos has been living with her five children. investigators say they found human blood in the garage and evidence someone tried to cover a crime. k-9 units were seen sifting through trash in hartford. police would not confirm if they were in connecticut and looking for the dulos case but they said they were working on an investigation. we learned police believe that jennifer dulos was the victim of a violent physical assault and two people matching the descriptions of her estranged husband and girlfriend were seen on surveillance footage the day of jennifer's disappearance in 30 locations in hartford trying trash away over a four-mile stretch. some of the items recovered have blood and some of them tested positive for jennifer dulos' blood. dulos and her husband were living in the husband that he shared with his wife. that's been the subject of many searches. police say neither one are cooperating. michelle made her $500,000 bond yesterday. she was released with a gps tracking device on her leg and fotis dulos is behind bars. >> and jennifer's mother just filed for custody of the kids. >> yes, her mother gloria farmer that is in new york city and taking care of her five grandchildren since her daughter went missing asking the judge to be awarded custody on a temporary basis. the children that the home lived in is under police guard, this is where police are asking local residents to check cameras that might have captured vehicular activities. we've been speaking with locals around here that are shaken about this. talking to children that went to school with the five dulos kids. >> shepard: thanks, laura. we're constituent waiting for the diner in london. we'll take you there as it happens and we have access. first, lawmakers revealing a list of hundreds of nursing homes across america with very serious problems. has the public been left in the dark in coming up, how to find out if your loved one is living in one of those facilities. welcome to seattle. where people are into coffee, tech, and retirement planning. the perfect retirement for me is doing the things that i want to do, not the things i have to do. unlike seattle, less than half of americans participate in their employer retirement plans. so what keeps people more engaged in their retirement? i want to have the ability to easily transact online, great selection of funds, 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>> there's a short list of eight 0 nursing homes that have been warned for violating health, safety and sanitary codes. the nursing homes are getting help to improve. there's 400 other homes that also should have been flagged for violations, but because of a shortage of inspectors, the government has kept the conditions under wraps. now bob casey and gop senator pat toomey has had a the list public. the violations we're talking about include a georgia nursing home resident that was able to climb out her window and later found on train tracks with the train approaching or a facility in hawaii infested with cockroaches and ants climbing on residents. in illinois, a resident was unable to get medical treatment, so he finally called 911 himself, but he tied on the way to the hospital. if you want to find out which homes are in violation, go to medicare.gov/nursinghomecompare. >> shepard: trace what are we hearing from them? >> we contacted an association that represented 13,500 nursing homes across the country. they said they fully support making information transparent. a lot of this information was already out there if you knew where the look. the association said it's important to look at facilities when making decisions. we recommend take several steps, not looking at one measure. we should note 1.3 million americans are living in 15,700 nursing homes in this country. only 3% of those nursing homes are in violation. that still means thousands of older americans are neglected in some capacity. the trump administration has asked congress to increase funding for more inspectors. we don't know how much money or how that money would be distributed. shep? >> trace gallagher live. thank you. secretary of state mike pompeo in a heated exchange with the government of china. he slammed the country for refusing to acknowledge the tiananmen square massacre. the chinese embassy accusing secretary pompeo of making the statement out of prejudice and arrogance. 40 years ago today, the chinese military opened fire on pro democrat demonstrators. this iconic image show as young man staring down a line of chinese tanks. today the number of people killed is unknown. it's estimated to be hundreds or even thousands. citizens murdered by the government. the chinese government blocks access to any information about tiananmen square online and in cable tv reports today, all subject matter related to tiananmen square goes dark. rich edson live with more. pompeo calling for a full public accounting of that day. >> and he said beginning so would be the communist party's willingness to respect rights. that's not the case. the secretary says over the decades that followed, the united states hoped that china's integration into the international system would lead to a more open tolerant society. those hopes have been dashed. china's one-party state tolerates no dissent and abuses human rights when they serve their interests. secretary pompeo specifically referenced china's representation of the muslim majority with surveillance detention and political reeducation. on capitol hill today, in front of a congressional commission a survivor and student organizer of those protests from 30 years ago spoke about his experience. >> on june 4, 1989, the chinese communist party sent in troops to massacre the people that they represented. they crushed all dissent. >> he says disappointingly world leaders returned to beijing to get access to their immense consumer market. shep? >> shepard: this is a serious matter for the chinese. they want to it go away and issued quite a response. >> the u.s. and china have their differences, this is a strong response by those standards. china's foreign ministry said secretary pompeo's statement made vicious accusations. they've been lecturing other countries and interfering in their internal affairs and human rights while turning the blind eye to the affairs in the u.s. china says they're on the right path and the u.s. should mind their own business. >> shepard: rich edson live. remember the shooting in parkland? the florida department of law enforcement has arrested a former sheriff's deputy over that deadly school shooting in parkland, florida. investigators report today that the former deputy scott peterson did nothing to mitigate the stoneman douglas high school that killed 17. the police commissioner said, and i'm quoting now there can be no excuse for his complete inaction and no question that his inaction cost lives. there was an investigation by the florida department of law enforcement and now out with this statement. the fdle showed that peterson did nothing to mitigate it. the statement has just been released. agents interviewed 184 witnesses and reviewed countless hours of videos. they wrote 212 investigative reports totalling 800 hours on this case to determine the actions of this deputy. they have concluded today he did nothing. up to 20 percent of iraq and afghanistan war veterans suffer from ptsd in any given year. that's according to the department of veterans affairs. that can make their transition back to civilian life more difficult. a navy seal has had a passion through extreme sports and now using his military training to carve out a new path. kristina partsinevelos shows us one veteran's story. >> for most people, therapy is on a couch. for brandon webb, it's his epson. he was a navy seal sniper. for many war veterans, returning home from the military means coping with post traumatic industries disorder. webb found and outlet. >> it's very therapeutic. you're forced to con sen trade on one thing. you can't think about anything else. it's a mind eraser. >> stunt flying isn't his own escape. webb and a group of friends took a helicopter to a dangerous region in the alps. webb is constantly seeking out the next adrenaline high. webb has found his return to civilian life easier and utilized his experiences to successfully launch several businesses. >> i've been able to create this cool content company that we montetize with commerce. >> and one of them is crape club. it's basically navy seal in a box. >> so can i get my therapy session with you then? >> of course. i don't charge that much. >> taking to the skies over manhattan, webb didn't disappoint. he did a 360 loop-to-loop off the coast of manhattan followed by a close look at the statue of liberty. he said this therapy is not for everybody. it just works for him. >> it's my way of getting into entrepreneurship and aviation and flying and taking what i learned in military. for me, it's a positive way to deal with my own transition. >> so luckily for brandon webb, he found solace in the world of aviation and turn it into a successful business. a lot of veterans find it difficult to return back to normal life, this is a positive story, shep. >> shepard: thanks, kristina partsinevelos. waiting now as we have been the last 45 minutes. can we show them the picture of the pool waiting? this is the life of the pool. you wait, wait, wait and then they let you know. they haven't let you in because the timing is up to them. anyway, the president is hosting the royals today, the first and the first lady. we're expecting that they want you to have a look. there for we'll let you have that look. the president is hosting the event, this is the first picture. the president is hosting the event. the british are not. the president is staying at this house here. he's hosting the event for him. they're serving american stuff. i'll tell you about that when it begins. hey, who are you? 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[applause] in come the cameras. very nice timing. this is the pool stray. let's look and see. i can tell you the order of seating. >> meghan markle there? >> careful, rick. the first lady will be setting next to the duchess or cornwall and theresa may's husband, mr. may. president trump will be sitting between the prince of wales and prime minister theresa may. so let's and listen together. >> shepard: they call this technology live u. essentially what it does, it transmits a television signal with audio through internet technology rather than having to have a satellite truck out there every now and then when the internet signal is rough or when you're in a highly secure zone like a place where a president of the united states and royals might be, live u doesn't work perfectly, which is why you see the camera break up. here's another camera in the same room. when you have two, you might as well use them. we may have a couple of words spoken. there's the president, the first lady. you might have since next to the prince is sarah sanders. a position of great honor in that spot. looks like they have given them a spray and now we'll exit them out the door. sometimes the press will like the children. see and be seen but not heard. that's sort of what has happened. yesterday was the state dinner what is tonight's purpose? this dinner is for what specifically? >> right. the royals hosted trump last night at buckingham palace, this is an opportunity for trump to return the favor. he's the host for this evening. the queen is being represented by her son, prince charles. it's a chance for the u.s. to get into the pomp and circumstance game as well as the britts have done so well throughout the visit. >> shepard: and an opportunity in a more casual setting. yesterday's -- everything seems to be formal when the royals are around. today more casual than the previous event. >> right. we're expecting 60 guests for tonight's dinner. it's casual perhaps by the standards of the royal family, a slightly dialled back affair than what we saw last night. >> shepard: when you see members of the press wearing coats and ties, the eng guys, all the rest, you know there's a dress code. cavuto will pick this up. great news on wall street, i want to take you there for the closing bell. a live look at the big board now. the dow is up more than 500 points. all 30 of dow industrials are in the green today. the s&p is up, the nasdaq is up. so what is the reason? the reason is that the fed is suggested that if these trade troubles go on and tariffs are put in place, interest rates may go down and the markets are loving that. "your world" with neil cavuto starts right now. >> neil: all right. the royal dinner going open right now as we speak. the winfield house. the residents of the american ambassador to great britain. the president exchanging the courtesy that the britts supported him, but with a dinner of his own top host the key british players. there's a possibility in a little bit that we could hear from individuals, maybe the president a little later in the dinner. the pool spray that they like to call the room is done. of course, the feast is open. the fee was on at the corner of wall and broad. see what i did there? the feast was on. welcome. i'm neil cavuto. let's talk about stocks. let's talk about the president. what is going on over here is some t

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wide range of issues including brexit, trade, the economy, earlier this morning they met with business leaders before heading to downing street. here is a bit of that. >> nations -- we can take the partnership further. a good financial trade agreement. >> president trump: i think we'll have a very substantial trade deal, a very fair deal and i think this is something that your folks want to do, my folks want to do and we want to do. we'll get it done. >> bill: we have our camera trained on the door of 10 downing street. we'll bring you the press conference. the former u.k. independence party leader nigel farage is here. we'll see how much we can squeeze in first off. 24 some hours in. how is the trip being received in london? >> phenomenal. better than anybody could have expected. i thought the photographs on the front page of today's newspapers, many of which haven't been kind about trump over the years, showed melania, show trump, the queen together. everyone looking relaxed, smiling. the president did not put a foot wrong yesterday, -- so far so good is the verdict. >> bill: have you seen many protestors. they expected 250,000, by his estimate and ben was there last summer as well when tens of thousands showed up, he believes only 10% of the number has been achieved so far. what would explain that or do you have a different explanation? >> no, there are far fewer protestors on the streets of london today than when he came last year. >> bill: how come? >> those that are protesting -- look, i think the fact is he is the president of the united states of america. whether you like him or like his new york style or not. some english people find it a bit over the top. but the fact is through nato we're closest military allies. intelligence sharing, working together to deal with terrorism around the world. we're the biggest investor in the usa and you're the biggest investor here. this is about his office, not his personality. not everyone likes him but he is a very important man to the united kingdom and our future. those that are protesting are the usual suspects, the communists, extremists, the kind of people that protest against me every day. >> bill: thank you. we see the two leaders crossing the way there out of 10 downing street into the foreign office where we'll see them franked by the flags and the two countries. i would expect in a way we'll hear a lot about trade. the president has certainly pushed this idea that if you were to make a way to break from the european union, that the u.s. and u.k. could deal as equal trading partners and get something done quite quickly. i don't know how realistic that is. is that something that is given a lot of thought there in london? >> it is realistic, of course it is. we have not conducted our own trade policy for 45 years. it's been done by the european union. i made a point the cross investment that occurs between us and you. i worked in financial services before getting involved in politics and i can tell you that in terms of doing business between new york and london there are barriers to doing business that could be removed. we could make the world a lot easier and come on, we share a language, we share much of our history. we have similar legal systems. a lot more business our country can do with each other for the mutual benefit of both. i have to say it's time we start talking about this trade deal and working on it. >> bill: a remarkable thing when you think about it, sandra. theresa may will be in this room three days prior to her resignation as the leader of her own party. she will stay on as prime minister but her final hours after failing three times to reach some sort of brexit deal, all three have failed and we'll see how the two of them react to that coming up. >> sandra: three days before her departure. after having discussions this morning we'll learn more about what they were able to discuss. what a room we saw fill up there, bill. you saw the president's adult children, don junior, eric, lara, ivanka is there and we saw the treasury secretary, john bolton, mike pompeo. brexit, trade, economy, all of that will be the issues out front. >> bill: one more thing with nigel farage, there has been a lot made about the mayor of london and the back and forth between him and president trump. what is less reported is the piece that mayor khan penned in the guardian saturday, june 1. the headline is unbritish to roll out the red carpet for donald trump. he eviscerated the american president when he was in air force one. in turn the president fired off a few nasty twets. how is that mayor in london seen by the people he governs? >> let's be truthful about that. khan has made repeated abusive comments about donald trump in the past. and he chose literally as the president was in the air to repeat many of them saying we shouldn't roll out the red carpet. we rolled out the red carpet for the president of china, we roll it out for arab dictators who commit appalling abuses against women and everybody else. khan chose this moment to have a go at donald trump. you know donald trump. if you poke him with a sharp stick don't be surprised when he reacts and i think what khan did was wholly inappropriate, not suitable to his office. again i say, actually offensive to the queen because this was a state visit and it was her invitation. and most reaction i've seen about mayor khan's behavior is why don't you deal with rising night crime, burglary rates going through the roof. do your job rather than send a virtual signal to the left. it's gone down badly. you can argue trump shouldn't react. this is who he is. he is 72 years old and isn't going to change now. >> bill: the two leaders at the microphone. let's watch. >> the extraordinary courage and sacrifice of those who gave their lives for our liberty on d-day 75 years ago. as leaders prepare to gather here from across the world, it is fitting that we begin with a celebration of the special relationship between the united kingdom and the united states. enduring partners who stood side-by-side on that historic day and every day since. for generations at the heart of the trans atlantic alliance has been our shared democratic values, our common interests, and our commitment to justice. it is that unity of purpose that will preserve the deep-rooted -- so i'm very pleased to welcome the president of the united states of america on this state visit to the united kingdom. for the past 2 1/2 years, the president and i have had the duty and privilege of being the latest guardians of this precious and profound friendship between our countries. as with our predecessors, when we have faced threats to the security of our citizens and our allies, we have stood together and acted together. when russia used a deadly nerve agent on the streets of our country, alongside the u.k.'s expulsion the president ex pulsed 60 russian intelligence officers, the largest contribution toward an unprecedented global response. in syria, when innocent men, women and children were victims of a barbaric chemical weapons attack britain and america, along with france, carried out targeted strikes against the regime. since we spoke about nato during my first visit to the white house, we have maintained our support for this crucial alliance. thanks in part that your clear message on burden sharing we have seen members pledge another $100 billion. increasing their contributions to our shared security. i'm pleased to announce that nato will soon be able to call on the u.k.'s queen elizabeth aircraft cares years and fighters jets to help with threats around the world. we share the same view about the origin and our objectives in meeting them. but like p.m.s and presidents before us and no doubt those that will come after we can also differ sometimes on how to confront the challenges we face. i've talked openly with you and you've done the same with me. i've always believed that compromise are the basis of strong alliances. nowhere is it more true than in the special relationship. today we've discussed again the importance of our two nations working together to address iran's destabilizing activity in the region, and to insure tehran cannot acquire a nuclear weapon. although we differ on the means of achieving that as i've said before the u.k. continues to stand by the nuclear deal, it is clear that we both want to reach the same goal. it is important that iran meets its obligations and we do everything to avoid escalation, which is in no one's interest. recognize than our nations are safer and more prosperous when we work together i set out the u.k.'s approach to tackling climate change and our continued support for the paris agreement. we also spoke about china, recognizing it's economic significance and that we cannot ignore action that threatens our shared interests or values. as we've deepened our cooperation on security including the joint military operations and unparalleled intelligence sharing so our economies are more tightly bound together. every morning one million americans get up and go to work for british companies in america, and one million britains do the same here. our trading relationship is worth and we're the largest investors with each other's economies. mr. president, you and i agreed the first time we met that we should aim for an ambitious free trade agreement when the u.k. leaves the e.u. and positive discussions today i know we both remain committed to this. i'm also sure that our economic relationship will only grow broader and deeper building on the conversations we had and the ideas we heard from u.k. and u.s. businesses when we met them earlier today. tomorrow we will sit down in port smith with fellow leaders to reaffirm the importance of the western alliance and the shared values that underpin it. as we look to the future in the years and generations ahead, we will continue to work together to preserve the alliance that is the bedrock of our shared prosperity and security, just as it was on the beaches of normandy 75 years ago. mr. president. >> president trump: well, thank you, prime minister may, melania and i are honored to return to london as our nations commemorate the 75th anniversary of d-day and world war ii. we want to thank her majesty, the queen, who i had a lovely dinner with last night. a fantastic person, fantastic woman for so graciously inviting us to this state visit. it was very, very special. our thanks as well to prime minister and mr. may for the warm welcome they've given the first lady and me. as we remember the heroes who laid down their lives to rescue civilization itself on june 6th, 1944, tens of thousands of young warriors left these shores by the sea and air to begin the invasion of normandy and the liberation of europe and the brutal nazi occupation. it was a liberation like few people have seen before. among them were more than 130,000 american and british brothers in arms. through their valor and sacrifice they secured our homelands and saved freedom for the world. tomorrow prime minister may and i will attend a commemoration ceremony in port smith one of the key embarkation points for the invasion. more than 1 1/2 million american service members were stationed right here in england in advance of the landings that summer. the bonds of friendship forged here and sealed in blood on those hallowed beaches will endure forever. our special relationship is grounded in common history, values, customs, culture, language, and laws. our people believe in freedom and independence as a sacred birthright and cherished inheritance worth defending at any cost. as the prime minister and i discussed in our meetings today and yesterday, the united states and the united kingdom share many goals and priorities around the world. i want to thank the people of the united kingdom for their service and partnership in our campaign to defeat isis. as we announced a few months ago, isis's territorial caliphate in syria and iraq has been completely obliterated, defeated. the united kingdom is also a key partner in nato. the prime minister and i agree that our nato allies must increase their defense spending. we have both been working very hard toward that end. and we are very current and some of them are not. we can't allow that to happen. but i appreciate everything you've done in that regard. we expect a growing number of nations to meet the minimum 2% of gdp requirement, to address today's challenges, all members of the alliance must fulfill their obligations. they have no choice. they must fulfill the obligations. among the pressing threats facing our nation is the development and spread of nuclear weapons. perhaps that's our greatest threat. the united states and united kingdom are determined to ensure iran never develops nuclear weapons and stops supporting and engaging in terrorism. and i believe that will happen. in protecting our nations, we also know that the border security is national security. today the prime minister and i discussed our thriving economic relationship. both countries are doing very well and participated in a round table with industry and business leaders. i can say probably the biggest business leaders anywhere in the world. our nations have more than one trillion dollars invested in each other's economics. the united kingdom is america's largest foreign investors and our largest european export market. that's a lot of importance. as the u.k. makes preparations to exit the european union, the united states is committed to a phenomenal trade deal between the u.s. and the u.k. there is tremendous potential in that trade deal. i say probably two and even three times of what we're doing right now. tremendous potential. 75 years ago this thursday, courageous americans and british patriots set out from this island toward history's most important battle. they stormed forward out of ships and airplanes risking everything to defend our people and to insure that the united states and britain would forever remain sovereign and forever remain free. following this press conference, prime minister may, mr. may, the first lady, my family and i will visit the legendary churchill war rooms beneath the streets of london. i look forward to that. in his famous speech on this day in june 1940, prime minister churchill urged his countrymen to defend our island whatever the cost may be. as we mark this solemn anniversary of d-day, we remember that the defense of our nations does not begin on the battlefield but within the heart of every patriot. today let us renew our pledge engraved at the american cemetery in normandy and inscribed by president dwight eisenhower in st. paul's cathedral right here in london that the cause for which they died shall live. prime minister may, it has been a true honor. i have greatly enjoyed working with you. you are a tremendous professional and a person that loves your country dearly. thank you very much. really an honor. thank you for the invitation to memorialize our fallen heroes and for your partnership in protecting and advancing the extraordinary alliance between the american and british people. it is the greatest alliance the world has ever known. thank you, prime minister. thank you. thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you. we'll take two questions from the u.k. media and two questions from the american media. >> thank you, prime minister, president trump. i'm from sky news. for you, president trump, as you hold talks with the current prime minister, the leader of her majesty's opposition has been addressing the protest rally against your visit in trafalgar square. he says he is disappointed you attacked the london mayor and criticized your report on refugees. what do you have to say to him and is this man someone you could do a trade deal with? and to you, prime minister, do you think that khan is a stone cold loser. >> are you talking about the mayor of london? he has not been a very good mayor, done a poor job, crime is up, a lot of problems. i don't think he should be criticizing a representative of the united states that can do so much good for the united kingdom. we talked about it before. he should be positive, not negative. he is a negative force, not a positive force. and if you look at what he said, he hurts the people of this great country. and i think he should actually focus on his job. it would be a lot better if he did that. he could straighten out some of the problems that he has and probably some of the problems that he has caused. thank you. he wanted to me with me and i told him no. i don't know jeremy corbin. never met him. never spoke to him. he wanted to meet today or tomorrow and i decided that i would not do that. i think that he is, from where i come from, somewhat of a negative force. i think that people should look to do things correctly as opposed to criticize. i really don't like critics as much as i like and respect people that get things done. so i've decided not to meet. as far as the protests, i have to tell you because i commented on it yesterday, we left the prime minister, the queen, the royal family, there were thousands of people on the streets cheering. and even coming over today there were thousands of people cheering. and then i heard that there were protests. i said where are they? i don't see any protests. i saw a small one today, very small. so a lot of it is fake news, i hate to say. you saw the people waving the american flag, waving your flag. it was tremendous spirit and love. there was great love. it was an alliance. i didn't see the protestors until just a little while ago and it was a very small group of people put in for political reasons. it was fake news. thank you. >> i would say to both the mayor of london and jeremy corbin the discussions that we have had today are about the future of this most important relationship between the u.s. and the u.k. as the president described it, the greatest alliance the world has seen. it is this deep special relationship and partnership between the united states and the united kingdom that insures our safety and security and the safety and security of others around the world, too. and it is this relationship that helps to insure there are jobs that employ people here in the u.k. and the united states that underpins our prosperity and our future. that's a relationship we should cherish. a relationship we should build on and should be proud of. >> president trump: this really is a very big and important alliance and i think people should act positively toward it. it means so much for both countries, it means so much and it has been so good. go ahead, steve. >> thank you. what is your current view on brexit, sir? should britain leave the european union if there is no agreement by october 31? for the prime minister what will be the ramifications for the u.k. if there isn't a deal. >> president trump: i don't like to take positions on things -- i understand the issue very well. i really predicted what was going to happen. some of you remember that prediction. it was a strong prediction made at a certain location on a development we were opening the day before it happened. and i thought it was going to happen because of immigration more than anything else but probably it happens for a lot of reasons. i would think that it will happen and it probably should happen. this is a great, great country and it wants its own identity. it wants to have its own borders. it wants to run its own affairs. this is a very, very special place. i think it deserves a special place. i thought maybe for that reason and for others but that reason it was going to happen. i think it will happen and i believe the prime minister has brought it to a very good point where something will take place in the not too distant future. she has done a very good job. i believe it would be good for the country, yes. >> and from my point of view, i believe it is important for us to deliver brexit. we gave that choice to the british people. parliament gave the choice to the british people. we should now deliver on that choice. i continue to believe that it is in the best interest of the u.k. to leave the european union in an orderly way with the deal. sadly the labor party and other mps have stopped us from delivering brexit in that deal. but this is an issue that will continue here in the u.k. i think the important thing is we deliver brexit and once we're out of the european union will be able to do what we've been talking about today and develop not just the free trade agreement but a broader economic partnership into the future. >> on a related matter, mr. president are you prepared to impose limits on intelligence sharing with britain if they do not put in place some restrictions on wayway. >> we'll have an agreement on huawei and everything else. we have an incredible intelligence relationship and be able to work out any differences. we did discuss it. i see absolutely no limitations. we've never had limitations. this is a truly great ally and partner and we'll have no problem with that. okay? >> francis. >> mr. president, i'm from the times. do you agree with your ambassador that the entire economy needs to be on table in a future trade deal including the mhs and prime minister, are you attempted to stick around a bit for a trade deal is done? >> president trump: i think we're going to have a great trade deal. a very great and comprehensive trade deal. [inaudible question] >> president trump: i think everything with the trade deal is on the table. when you are dealing on trade, everything is on the table. nhs or anything else. a lot more than that. everything will be on the table, absolutely. >> the point about making trade deals is that both sides negotiate and come to an agreement about what should or should not be in that trade deal for the future. and with regard to your second question, nice try. but no, look, i'm a woman of my word. mr. president. >> john, please. >> mr. president, thank you. mr. president, domestically in recent days mexico has stepped up apprehensions and deportations of central american migrants. this could possibly be in response to your threat of tariffs. has mexico -- >> president trump: might possibly be. >> has mexico done enough to avoid tariffs that will be imposed in six days from now. >> president trump: we haven't started yet. >> the threat is out there. >> president trump: the threat is out there but we haven't really started yet. it will take effect next week 5%. >> what do you think of republicans who say they may take action to block you imposing the tariffs? >> president trump: i think if they do it's foolish. there is nothing more important than borders. i have had tremendous republican support. i have a 94% approval rating of this morning in the republican party. an all-time record. can you believe that? isn't that something? i love records. we have a 94% approval rating in the republican party. i want to see security at our border. i will see great trade. i will see a lot of things happening and as you know, mexico called and they are going the meet on wednesday. secretary pompeo will be at the meeting along with a few others that are very good at this and we're going to see if we can do something. i think it's more likely the tariffs go on and we'll probably be talking during the time the tariffs are on and they will be paid. and if they don't step up and give us security for our nation, look, millions of people are flowing through mexico. that's unacceptable. millions and millions of people are coming right through mexico. it is a 2,000 mile journey and they are coming up to our border and our border patrol, which is incredible, they're apprehending them but our laws are bad because the democrats don't want to pass laws that could be passed in 15 minutes, that could be passed quickly. in one day it could change. even beyond the laws, mexico shouldn't allow millions of people to try to enter our country. they could stop it very quickly. and i think they will. if they won't, we'll put tariffs on. every month those tariffs go from 5% to 10% to 15% to 20 and to 25%. and what will happen then is all of those companies that have left our country and gone to mexico are going to be coming back to us. that's okay. that's okay. but i think mexico will step up and do what they should have been doing. i don't want to hear that mexico is run by the cartels and the drug lords and the coyotes. i don't want to hear about that. a lot of people are saying that. mexico has something to prove. but i don't want to hear they're run by the cartels, you understand? you report on it all the time. a lot of people do. that would be a terrible thing. mexico should step up and stop this onslaught, this invasion into our country, john. >> prime minister may, you tried three times to get a deal on brexit. at this point do you believe that a deal on brexit is possible or is this a gordian knot. president trump says you didn't take his advice in terms of negotiation. should you have? would that have made a difference? and president trump. you had a conversation with boris johnson. can we ask what you spoke about and will you meet with michael gove today? >> on the first issue. i said in answer to an earlier question, i personally believe it is in the best interest of the u.k. to leave the european union with a deal. i believe there is a good deal on the table. obviously it will be for whoever succeeds me as prime minister to take this issue forward. what is paramount, i believe, is delivering on brexit for the british people. and i seem to remember the president suggesting that i sued the european union. we didn't do. we went into negotiations and came out with a good deal. >> president trump: i would have sued but that's okay. [laughter] >> president trump: i would have sued and settled maybe, but you never know. she is probably a better negotiator than i am. but she has got it in a sense, john, that deal is teed up. i think they have to do something. and perhaps you won't be given the credit you deserve if they do something. you deserve a lot of credit. i think you do. i think you deserve a lot of credit. so i know boris. i like him, i've liked him for a long time. i think he would do a very good job. i know jeremy. i think he would do a good job. i don't know michael. but would he do a good job, jeremy? tell me. [laughter] >> president trump: thank you very much, everybody. thank you. >> bill: 20 minutes in length, a total of four questions, theresa may the outgoing british prime minister the head of her party will step down from the head of that position on friday as we see the president leave the room there. a couple things, sandra, theresa may and donald trump expressing their mutual bond in a strong statement from the president it is the greatest alliance the world has ever known. you could see the gratitude expressed to theresa may at the end. i think you deserve a lot of credit for trying to get brexit three times and failed. halloween is the deadline for brexit next in the fall, sandra. >> sandra: watching the dow on the corner of your screen up 250 points. some action there as we heard the president talking about those tariffs on mexico saying it is likely that those will happen, 5% june 10th is what is expected to begin there. that's some news. the president otherwise saying he was honored to return to england. he thanked her majesty the queen for the warm welcome since being on the ground there. discussed their thriving economic relationship and said how much he has enjoyed with working the theresa may. they had several moments showing what a strong relationship they have. >> bill: i thought her most emphatic statement when she interrupted with a question about jeremy corbin and the mayor khan of london. our discussions are about the future. we can differ on some issues, she mentioned iran nuclear deal, mentioned climate change in passing but talked about russia and iran off the top. with regard to the protests that were given so much attention last summer we've been trying to get a handle on it. today was the big day in central london for it to happen. there are thousands of people on the streets of london. have they amounted to what we saw last summer? it doesn't appear to be the case thus far. benjamin hall and others have been on the streets of london. karl rove joins our coverage here. tim -- the impression you had. what was your take? >> i thought it was mostly a traditional news conference, something that we don't expect from the president of the united states who is a very untraditional chief executive. i thought it was the kind of thing you would expect. strong statements of mutual support by the leaders of both the united states and the united kingdom. the president took sort of an off hands approach to brexit. his comments were not as detailed and forceful and specific as they've been before. which i thought was very appropriate. i think he made a smart move by being strong in his praise of prime minister may who is leaving office shortly. that's a good signal. he refused to jump into the race to succeed her as leader of the conservative party and hence prime minister which he had earlier been outspoken in his support for boris johnson. today took a more nuanced view. i thought it was a pretty good moment. the two leaders found agreement on the necessity of maintaining their strong relationship, on the opportunities for future economic ties in the aftermath of brexit and both of them expressed general support for the view that britain could work its way through the brexit problem and emerge on the other side stronger. >> bill: he said it probably should happen. her answer was we should deliver on that promise. >> sandra: he responded and so did may about the criticism to mayor khan. here was that moment a short time ago. we don't have that yet. theresa may jumped into bill's earlier point and responded even though she wasn't directly asked but the president took that on as well and here is that moment. >> as the president described it the greatest alliance the world has seen. it is this deep special relationship and partnership between the united states and united kingdom that insures our safety and security and the safety and security of others around the world, too. and it is this relationship that helps to insure there are jobs that employ people here in the u.k. and in the united states. that underpins our prosperity and our future. that is a relationship we should cherish. it is a relationship we should build on. it is a relationship we should be proud of. >> sandra: an interesting moment, karl. the question was directed to the president. she jumped in as well. >> i think the question was directed that particular -- there were two questions asked by the reporter. the first one directed to the president. the question about the mayor of london was directed to her but the president mayor khan gets under his skin so he took the question that was directed to her and answered it first. so look, this is the one thing i think the president will be better off not punching down. the mayor of london is not the same as prime minister of great britain not like the president of the united states and i think it would have been better to have left it in the hands of the british prime minister who answered by basically ignoring the mayor which is what he deserves to be treated. >> bill: if you were to read the commentary in print over the weekend from mayor khan, how would you -- you read that piece, right? he eviscerated the american president. >> yeah. look, i got it. but let other people speak in response to that. better to have the president be above that in my opinion. that was the message of prime minister may. she responded to it by emphasizing the importance of the relationship and how vital it was to both countries and especially to the people of britain they have a strong relationship to the united states. her message to mayor khan, shut up. but the president takes these things personally and sometimes there is an advantage to that, sometimes there is a disadvantage to that. i think today it would have been better if he hadn't punched in. >> sandra: here is the president in his own words responding to that criticism. here is president trump. >> president trump: i think he has been a not very good mayor from what i understand. he has done a poor job. crime is up. a lot of problems. i don't think he should be criticizing a representative of the united states that can do so much good for the united kingdom. if you look at what he said, he hurts the people of this great country. and i think he should actually focus on his job. it would be a lot better if he did that and he could straighten out some of the problems that he has. >> bill: that was the response. stand by in austin, texas. john, you had a pointed question. we'll get to him in a moment. pointed question about mexico and the recent crackdown. you have a deadline coming up on monday for the 5% tariffs that will go ininitially. the president did not back down in any way when john asked him whether or not mexico to avoid the tariffs. he said it will take effect next week, meaning monday. mexico should step up and stop the invasion. >> sandra: the president jumped in to take credit for what john roberts was asking about the central american migrant deportation and the increase we've seen since the president threatened the tariffs. as far as the mexican delegation meeting in washington where those talks go before june 10th, bill, there was a question or not they could work something out before the tariffs would take effect. the president said those are likely to still happen, the 5% starting june 10th. asked whether republicans would try to block it and how he would respond he said it would be foolish. >> bill: the market up 230 at the open. what is your sense down there in the mexican delegation coming to washington is this something they can work out or not? >> look, texas economy is tied to mexico. if they get sick, we get sick. same in the other border states of new mexico, arizona and some extent california. there is a great deal of concern. talked to a couple of business leaders in texas since the president's announcement. they're nervous. on the other hand, the response of the mexican government thus far has been very positive. we recognize there is a problem and want to come to washington and see if we can arrive at a mutual understanding what needs to be done. this will have ramifications economically. the midwesterners, i was in iowa this weekend for "fox news sunday". people are very concerned about the impact of these. we send lots of corn, lots of pork, lots of chicken, lots of protein from the middle west of the united states south. we also bring about 30% of what goes into american automobiles generally comes from mexico. and those parts are going to -- we already have an auto industry that's nervous. and it's going to be hard for them to absorb it. you know what the profit margin for ford motor company was? 1.94%. when they sell an automobile their profit margin 1.94. you take a big chunk and the sales are shaky down compared to last year. a real concern in automobile country whether or not this will have an impact. >> 30% of what goes into that car is coming from mexico. and if you have to pay 5% more on 30% you do the math. you are wiping out a significant part of that 1.94% profit margin. >> sandra: karl, stand by. john roberts got to ask a question in the room for theresa may and the president. john, you join us by phone now. >> sorry about that, we're having connection problems here at the commonwealth office. going back to what you were saying earlier just before we dropped out bill was talking about the president does not see these latest moves by mexico, which mexican officials have been touting as some sort of progress in terms of apprehending and deporting central american migrants who are in mexico illegally is any kind of movement toward going down the road to at least far enough to avoid tariffs. the president don't believe mexico has done enough at this point. he looks forward to whatever discussion will happen tomorrow with the mexican delegation in the united states to see if they can make more movement. the president saying that those tariffs he expects will go into place next monday. just six days from now at 5% and then they'll increase by 5% up to a maximum of 25% after that. also i thought it was interesting that theresa may in response to my question can you ever get a brexit deal, you tried three times without success, or is this the gordian knot that can't be untied. she thinks it should be done. a big difference between what can and should be done. there remains to be seen britain can cut a deal with the european union to allow it to exit from the european union and not have severe economic consequences or if, as the president has been promoting, there needs to be a quote no deal brexit. but that would carry with it potentially serious political consequences. many people here in the u.k. believe it could lead to a win by the labor party, which is led by jeremy corbin, who has been helping to lead the protests against the president today. and the president in that interview with the sunday times over the weekend if jeremy corbin were to become prime minister he may have to rethink the american intelligence sharing with the u.k. a tremendous amount of uncertainty in britain as to the way forward. we'll see how this goes. >> bill: they move to the churchill rooms and john, those rooms are loaded with history if you saw the movie recently, you know this is where churchill rode out the second world war during the bombing of london leading up to the invasion out of port smith england. we'll let you know what's happening in central london. the president was asked about it. he said he saw a couple thousand people cheering for him and titled it fake news. >> sandra: we'll look at that and movement on the part of the president on his way to the war rooms. he and his family for a tour there. as we continue with the story and the news we heard from the president we want to bring in the former acting ice director tom homan, a fox news contributor who joins us now. tom, you were listening to the president just now and john roberts got a question in about what we are seeing in mexico as far as their attempts to stem illegal immigration from central americans. what did you make of the president's response and what did it tell you? >> i agree with the president 100% and i agree with the tariffs. i heard the monologue earlier, i understand that the tariffs may have a short term effect on the economy but it's money, money, money, money. my concern is what price will you put on our national security. people need to understand what's going on at the border. 40% of border patrol agents aren't on the line but taking care of family units. the border is vulnerable. one thing no one is talking about. if you're a terrorist that wants to come to this country to do us harm you won't buy a plane ticket and buy a visa. you'll enter the country the same as 12 or 20 million others enter. there is such vulnerability on the border. this is more than a humanitarian crisis. the president is trying to secure our nation and protect our national security and cut down the vulnerabilities. >> bill: screen left, a little rain in london. play the clip a moment ago from the question and answer from john roberts there. >> president trump: i want to see security at our border and i'll see great trade, i'll see a lot of things happening and is happening. mexico called, they want to meet. they'll meet on wednesday. secretary pompeo is going to be at the meeting along with a few others that are very good at this and we are going to see if we can do something. i think it's more likely the tariffs go on and we'll probably be talking during the time that the tariffs are on and they will be paid. and if they don't step up and give us security for our nation, look, millions of people are flowing through mexico. that's not acceptable. >> bill: what is acceptable in the administration's eyes? would it have to be zero? is it 100 a day, 2,000 a month? how do we measure success if you are going the crack down on mexico. >> i think -- we have offices down in mexico. we need to observe that the mexican government is taking on the criminal cartels that are orchestrating this entire push to the southern border. they are controlling the groups, they control when they cross and where they cross. we've seen a video of hundreds of people on the train. they'll certainly shut the train down and arrest these people and remove them. stop issuing transit visas to people coming to the united states. number one issue is attack the criminal cartels orchestrating it. they make billions of dollars. children are dying. women raped. we need mexico to take on the command and control structure that is orchestrating this entire surge. >> sandra: the big question we're left with and the president said those tariffs will likely take place june 10th. the tade line. it is june 4th. six days for some talks to play out. make some ground. are you optimistic possibly that they can come to some sort of agreement to avoid that? >> i'm hoping so because look, i'm already optimistic enough that mexican authorities have come to the united states because they are concerned. i think the president threw down the gauntlet and says enough is enough. they may arrest a few thousand and deport them. 100,000 a month are coming through. the president has sent a clear message. mexico has awoken and they came to the united states and i hope we come to some agreement what more they can do. expand the migration protection protocol where people wait in mexico for the asylum process. expand that program. i hope it leads to better discussion and more action in mexico. it is better to fight the away game than the home game. >> bill: tom homan. two other headlines about the limitations on intelligence sharing between the u.k. and the u.s. this has to do with concerns of huawei, the chinese phone maker. we'll get an agreement, the president said. no limitations on interference. intelligence sharing i should say. then he said about a trade daoe. we will get a trade deal. everything is on the sail. theresa may said we go back and forth and negligent. we are watching this now. the protests will gather. we'll see how it goes. back at home now we have new information now on the evidence revealed in the disappearance of a mother of five in connecticut. her husband and his girlfriend face charges in that case. so we'll get the news from there and let you know as the president continues his tour today in central london. back in a moment right here on this tuesday morning. ♪ it's us. millennials. everyone's favorite. there's just one thing hurting us more than student loans: credit card debt. sure, dad, call us irresponsible. we're only dealing with insane living costs and housing costs. it's just not right. but with a personal loan from sofi, you can consolidate your credit card debt into one monthly payment. and get your future right. get your money right with sofi. 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i did see a small protest when i came, very small. so a lot of it is fake news i hate to say. i think we'll have a great trade deal, yes. we'll have a great and comprehensive trade deal. everything with the trade deal is on the table. when you are dealing on trade, everything is on the table. >> the discussion we've had today are about the future of this most important relationship between the u.s. and the u.k. as the president described it, the greatest alliance the world has seen. and it is this relationship that helps to ensure there are jobs that employ people here in the u.k. and the united states. >> most people are grown up enough to recognize that this is about his office, not his personality. not everyone likes him but he is a very important man to the united kingdom and to our future. >> bill: that was all just last hour. benjamin hall is live on the streets of london. what are you seeing there? >> well, bill, i think you put it material. this trip so far has been two parts. yesterday the pomp and pageantry. today the politics and policy but you had the protests. we saw those earlier this morning. we're outside downing street now and you can see they've moved on. the crowd has diminished. while they had hoped to have 250,000 people bused in from around the country mainly organized by the socialist workers group that crowd diminished and they got only a fraction of those people. the protests had one controversial moment and that was when jeremy corbin the labor leader came out in front ever downing street and gave a speech criticizing president trump. that will be mainly and largely frowned upon. for president trump today has been all about business. it started the day with a round table event with business leaders and he spoke very clearly then about his optimism, his enthusiasm for a free trade deal with the u.k. in the future and said it might take place in the coming weeks. certainly something like that music to the ears of brexiters. everything on this trip has been to highlight the special relationship so much talk of the shared culture, shared language, shared customs and laws, the work together against russia and security and intelligence sharing. putting the relationship with the u.k. at the very forefront. this visit certainly going well. some moments left. i think this evening the president is hosting a dinner at winfield house, the ambassador's residence where he is staying. and a few hours of down time in between. people watching very closely to see if he takes the opportunity to meet boris johnson, a man he has praised in the past as a potential future leader. up to this point a great example of bilateral relationships. >> bill: good deal. thank you, benjamin hall on the streets of london. let's bring in the a-team. hugo gurdon, brad blakeman, former assistant to george w. bush and jean aoen zaino professor of political science. hugo, what do you think? it's been a huge couple of days and it continues today. we just heard from the outgoing prime minister and the president. >> it has been an extremely good trip for president trump so far. the state dinner last night, the welcome. as everybody commented the british do this extremely well. anyone who goes to london knows it's a creative and energetic country and produce a great spectacle. a dignified spectacle and what president trump wanted yesterday. unfortunately for britain and somewhat to my embarrassment that sort of idea of special also produces childish protests you get with the inflatable baby and trump sitting on a toilet and tweeting and another inflatable thing. but the protests have been a lot smaller so far. and i think it is going very well for the president. >> what do you think? >> the trip couldn't have been going as well as it did. nobody does a state visit like the brits. you know, this is a two-fer. relationship is only as good as it is for both parties. britain is going through a rough patch. a good bit of news for britain. it bucks up their country at a critical juncture of where they'll be in the next few years. it was good for us and our friends. >> sandra: talking about trade, economy, strong relationship. you heard it from the president and theresa may. she hopes the economic relationship between the two countries will only grow broader and deeper. >> absolutely. i think what is striking to me is you look, they're there commemorating d-day. we're at a time when we may see this relationship between these two super powers change. and morph. it is fascinating to watch and see what is the future going to portend in terms of trade, for instance, are we going to get a deal? can the president do a deal with britain at the same time he is trying to deal with issues involving trade in china and mexico and other countries? then also you look at other issues that the countries are a part of now. issues like the environment has been very, very charged issue. what will happen with huawei? there are a lot of issues on the table. prime minister may is on her way out. can they reach that kind of deal? >> bill: i felt as we saw last summer the two leaders show a lot of graciousness toward one another. that special relationship has been captured. here is a moment, however, where you can get even folks in the press corps to change their demeanor. here it is right now. >> i personally believe that it is in the best interest of the u.k. to leave the european union with a deal. i believe there is a good deal on the table. obviously it will be for whoever succeeds me as prime minister to take this issue forward. >> president trump: i would have sued, but that's okay. i would have sued and settled, maybe, but you never know. she is probably a better negotiator than i am. the deal is teed up. i think they have to do something and perhaps you won't be given the credit you deserve but you deserve a lot of credit. >> bill: charm goes a long way. >> they've been complimentary. theresa may said in the press conference there that even though they sometimes voice disagreements and they take decisions in the national interest, the alliance is extremely important and will continue to be important as it has been for 75 years and will be for generations to come. >> sandra: to go back to that moment i was taking notes because it was a very strong moment in the news conference and she talked about their strong alliance and said i've always talked openly with you, donald. an inside look into their personal and close relationship there. you as you three have described, the past couple of days and how well it's been going, you wouldn't have known that from these clips in the media. we strung these together for you. here it is. >> he is just basically an embarrassment. all americans should feel incredibly embarrassed by how this president represents us abroad. >> president donald trump. they don't feel he embodies the kind of values they do. >> people over there don't like trump. >> we can't assume just because it's looking good now that it will look good in the next few days. >> to many brits he is an unwelcome guest. the president stirring up controversy before he even landed. >> he is a bull carrying his own china shop around with him in london. >> just one last message to the brits, i'm sorry. >> sandra: this was all put together from yesterday before the press conference this morning. brad, an embarrassment, unwelcome guest? laughing? >> disgraceful. if you look at the coverage and you are fair and balanced you would see our president represented us very well. he just didn't get on a plane and crash a party. he was invited by the head of state to a state visit and there is a close and special relationship between the united states and great britain no matter who the president is. the fact they invited this president at this time for a state visit speaks volumes to his leadership. >> when we talk about in class we talk with framing and priming and all these things the media due to garner ratings. we were talking backstage about the focus on the demonstrations which has been outsized in terms of the actual amount of demonstrators there are. >> there is an irony here. although it's true that majority of people in britain don't particularly like donald trump, the trumpiest party in britain was the winner in the elections a few days ago, the brexit party. a lot of people do like trump and think like trump. the nationalism a and populism. he is not as out of place as media here would like to suggest. >> bill: he said we should deliver on that promise. theresa may said that a couple times today. big news in washington the house is back in session. democrats returning to the mueller matter. judiciary committee announcing plan for a contempt vote next week against the attorney general bill barr and former white house lawyer don mcgahn. lindsey graham telling sean hannity for him it's time to move on. >> no collusion with the russians. he decided not to bring a case against the president based on obstruction. to me case closed. let's look at comey and mccabe, strzok, page, all these other people and see how we got into this mess to begin with. >> bill: chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge with this now from washington good morning. >> good morning. contempt vote is formally scheduled for june 11. the allegation from house democrats that don mcgahn and attorney general william barr have failed to comply with congressional sub aoens yas. administration and justice department officials cite executive privilege and congressional overreach. the house speaker ignored questions from our fox team on the hill whether contempt will be civil, criminal, or enforced by congress. >> civil contempt versus -- why civil contempt? >> whether the democrats still push for former special counsel robert mueller to testify after signaling last week the 448 page report is his testimony, one lawmaker said the debate is ongoing within the party. >> i think that the caucus is unified in opposing the lawlessness and obstructionism of the trump administration and we're just in the process of everybody moving in a different speed to put all of the constitutional tools on the table. and so there is a lot of tools in the toolkit. we'll get them on the table and we'll figure out how to move forward. >> in this letter the ranking republican doug collins called on chairman nadler to focus on foreign election interference in 2020 and accept the mueller findings. it reads in part, instead of probing this threat mr. chairman you continue to play politics related to impeachment. mr. mueller began and ended his remarks by warning of the russian cyber threat. in fact, russian interference in the 2016 election was the reason for being of the whole special counsel appointment. another threat was made clear to the obama administration and apparently treated as non-serious. we're waiting on the weekly sessions from republicans and democrats and bring you the headlines as soon as we get them. >> bill: nice to see you you in washington, d.c. >> sandra: how will republicans react to these contempt votes? 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it was a very beautiful day yesterday and they got right to business this morning. >> i think that's exactly right. most state visits are very formal affairs. there is a dignified ceremonial part and we heard the president last night pledge eternal friendship. he said some very nice things about the queen. the queen has seen 12 of 13 presidents since she came to the throne and then today as you say it is down to business. it is not just about the president and prime minister. they saw a lot of businessmen, president is going to go to the churchill war rooms. he is a big fan of churchill and we're pleased to have him. >> bill: remarkable moment. no cameras allowed. we'll see what we gather from the pool reporters there. he said the greatest alliance the world has ever known. how do brits feel when they feel that? >> brits feel proud to have a partner in the united states of america. we all know there is a very long history going back to the revolutionary war but since that point this has been one of the strongest alliances i think the world has ever seen between two countries. we fought side-by-side in the second world war, fought side-by-side in other recent conflicts. most recently we and the french and americans took action over syria because of chemical weapons. it is one of the firmest alliances. >> bill: you will see the strength of that relationship all week, too, when they go to england tomorrow and normandy. >> sandra: theresa may talked about china and recognizing the economic significance of our trade relationships with china. obviously the president has been hard at work trying to get a trade deal done. i know you have met with the president and discussed the possibility of working something out. what did you see and learn through that process? >> well, i think i had the pleasure of talking to the president at last year's u.n. ministerial meeting. the president is very concentrated on trade. he knows the figures. he has a good head for figures. i think we believe in what the president is saying in certain aspects of the difficulty of trade with china. china is not exactly a modern country when it comes to trade. suppressed demand. lots of problems with intellectual property but we see the relationship as a bit different. we're very, very passionate about free trade in the united kingdom. >> bill: do you support the level of offense the president has gone on to get a better trade deal with beijing? >> because we're free trader we believe less in the power of tariffs to bring about changes in the trading system. >> bill: how else would you do it? >> the world trade organization. we believe in using that more. we agree with the president it needs reform but we think there is more that can be done there. >> bill: exact changes from the chinese. when the laws that they conduct and live by have gone on for generations. >> that's true. chinese have created a different sort of economy, if you like. they've listed hundreds of millions of people out of poverty and commendable but the way they engage with the rest of the world isn't free trade as we would call it. we need to encourage structural reform in the chinese economy but taking on some of these detailed issues around steel and around the way they do business. >> sandra: a short time ago at the news conference theresa may took on the london mayor saying this is a relationship we should cherish and build on because the president has been criticized by the mayor since he has been on the ground there. the president responded to that in that news conference. here he is. >> president trump: i don't think he should be criticizing a representative of the united states that can do so much good for the united kingdom. if you look at what he said, he hurts the people of this great country and i think he should actually focus on his job. >> well, the president is expressing his view. it is a democracy. the mayor of london is en titleed to his view. there are areas where he doesn't agree with the president. i have to say in all honesty there is some area where the british government doesn't agree with the president. a visit by the president of this great country to the united kingdom, the overwhelming majority of british people are very happy to see the president here. >> bill: overwhelming. >> i think so. london is not always a microcosm of the rest of the country. >> bill: i see. well understood. from "politico" they write this morning the headline is this. britain is in no position to scoff at donald trump. in the article it writes both nations are reeling from a political storm that hit in 2016 but as the united states processes the unorthodox and disruptive presidency of the donald trump britain has become increasingly paralyzed, end quote. >> well, i think that's a reference to brexit and the fact there is a leadership contest going on in the united kingdom government at the moment. i think the important thing i would stress is that here we have a leadership contest in british politics but able to put on a state visit with the queen with a big ceremony commemorating d-day to celebrate the friendship with the united states of america. british politics will endure beyond brexit and this contest and you will always find in britain a very good friend of the united states of america. >> sandra: another interesting moment said president may deserves credit for what she has done with brexit and what she tried to do. >> president trump: the deal is teed up. i think they have to do something. and perhaps you won't be given the credit you deserve if they do something. i think you deserve a lot of credit. >> sandra: he gives her a lot of credit. >> the president has been quite -- he has his views on brexit. he calls it as he sees it. he has a lot of views on how to conduct negotiations. he has written a book on that. i think it was a nice tribute to mrs. may and heart felt. she has done her very best for the country to bring about an orderly brexit in a way that does justice to our trade and our security relationships with europe. >> bill: a few more questions. how do you think that he has changed the way politics operate back in your country? or do you think he has? there is a large discussion in the united states that after donald trump, anyone can be the president. anyone can run for office and succeed if they work hard enough and have the right ideas and sell them to the american people which he clearly did in 2016. has it changed do you believe the fabric of a politician in the u.k. >> it's the american dream. anyone can run for president if they're an american. that's one of the enormous strengths of american society. that's certainly what my generation grew up with, the shining city on the hill. i think that's really important. i think britain has different politics. it has a different political tradition. i do think that president's habit of calling it as he sees it is a new phenomenon which more people in britain are starting to replicate. they're quite different in the politics. what do i know? i'm a civil servant not a politician. >> bill: you have fair observations about how they are looking at us from overseas. >> i think the most important thing there are a lot of things we have in common and we have a lot of in common of prosperity, free trade, security, we believe in nato and the atlantic alliance. you saw the gift that was given to the president by mrs. may. it was churchill's handwritten amendments, a copy of churchill's handwritten amendment from the charter. it is quite an awesome document but the important thing is it is a symbol of the institutions that bind us. >> sandra: quite a moment last night to see the queen sit down and dine with the president. >> absolutely. >> sandra: quite frankly i was observing the pairings, kate sitting with steve mnuchin. fascinating. >> the whole family were there. the senior members of the royal family. this is how we like to do state visits. we like to welcome the president or head of state and their entourage and members of the royal family accompany the queen and the table ware and flowers in the ballroom of buckingham palace. >> sandra: prince charles walking with melania. >> we call it a home run in the united states. thank you very much. in the meantime >> bill: 2020 democrats gathering in california over the weekend. joe biden broke away from the pack and stayed away. his rivals are using that against him. the infighting. it is the primary season. more warts on that hand very soon. former white house press secretary ari fleischer will be our guest coming up. >> sandra: the attorney general facing a contempt vote. are democrats looking in the wrong direction? reaction from capitol hill next with senator thom tillis. >> my job is to have oversight to change the laws to protect the country from abuse in the future. durham is looking at criminality and barr is sitting on top of that. we'll get to the bottom of it for the good of the country. your brain changes as you get older. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. and need money for your family? newday usa can help. by re-financing up to 100 percent of your home's value you could take out 50,000 dollars or more. you could use that money to pay credit card debt and other expenses, plan for retirement, and get back on your feet financially. and don't let less than perfect credit hold you back. even if you've been turned down for a va loan by your bank, call newday usa. they've been given automatic authority by the va they can often help veterans when other lenders won't. need money for your family? 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i'll move to mexico tariffs. i want to know what's going to happen, senator. the president was just asked about this while in london. it does seem like he plans to move forward with this june 10th start date of 5% tariffs on mexico despite what mexico is attempting to do or how much they are increasing deportations. he was asked about it. >> the bottom line is if mexico secures their border nearly 80% of the people coming across the border, 80,000 a month, will not come across the border. if mexico will just do their part to try and stop this crisis. it's a humanitarian crisis, a homeland security and national security crisis. i think the president is right to use every device at his disposal to try to solve this crisis. save people's lives and make our communities safer. >> bill: the press conference last hour he was asked about it and here is the answer he gave in london. >> president trump: i want to see security at our border and see great trade. i'll see a lot of things happening. we'll see if we can do something. it is more likely the tariffs go on. mexico should step up and stop this onslaught, this invasion into our country. >> bill: do you believe the tariff route is the best route right now? does mexico listen to that? >> it's something mexico has to take a look at. what's the cost of securing the border and stemming the tide of illegal immigration across our border versus the cost to the economy of having to withstand these tariffs? i hope we can get to a good place. i think the president has to use every device at his disposal. we have 40% of the border security agents today not doing the jobs they were sworn to do. they're doing daycare, driving buses, trying to figure out how to handle the burgeoning population we have them. 80% are not from mexico and 80% who apply for asylum are deemed not to have a valid claim. we can solve it by stemming the tide and mexico is a very, very part of doing that. >> here is the mexican ambassador to the u.s. pointed comments on exactly that. >> we have faith in dialogue and politics in a means to avoid an unnecessary confrontation. we act out of deep rooted principles and there is a clear limit to what we can negotiate. and that limit is mexican dignity. >> bill: the final sign. mexican dignity. i don't know what you consider a success or what the white house considers a success. if you put on the tariffs. what is considered stemming the flow of migrants? is there a number there or is it action? >> it has to be measurable progress. if you have 80,000 people coming across the border, more than 60,000 of them moving through mexico but not from mexico, all we're saying is help us. we want to get the usmca passed and trade relations strong with our trading partner but mindful of the threat to our homeland, the threat to our economy, the threat to communities across this country if we don't come up with a way to secure the border. one is to move forward with the border plan. another key part of it is to move forward with mexico's own border plan securing their southern border. if we do that in combination we can get past this crisis and then get to good, normal, economic relations. >> sandra: interesting to note even in the wake of the president's comments of likely going forward with the tariffs on mexico the markets are booming today. the dow is up 345 points on tuesday morning. meanwhile talking about our trade relationships with the u.k. and china. we heard a bit of that just now. theresa may recognizing china and the economic significance of our relationships there. also with the u.k. what did you take away on trade from what you just heard from the prime minister and the president of the united states? >> the president is trying to get done in a couple of years what administrations failed to do over a couple of decades. he is using devices considered taboo. when you take advantage of our open economy, when you steal our intellectual property and don't cooperate us like securing the border, the president has to have those tools available to come to a good solution for the american people and trading partners. >> bill: senator, hope you come back soon, okay? thank you so much for your time. thom tillis, republican from north carolina. thanks. >> sandra: right now the house oversight and reform committee holding a second hearing on facial recognition technology with the committee looking to insure transparency in the federal government's use of it. doug mcelway is live in washington with more on this. we have a lot of questions on this, doug. what are we learning? >> a lot of questions. in an 1890 article a young lawyer wrote one of the most cherished of all rights is the right to be left alone. he was worried about the misuse of photography. he would be appalled at some of the testimony today about facial recognition technology. a rare instance where both parties see a real threat to our right to be left alone. the committee will reveal that the f.b.i. maintains a huge repository, 36.4 million photos available to federal, state and local law enforcement agencies to conduct facial recognition searches. the gao reports the f.b.i. has limited information on the accuracy of its face recognition technology. tsa is already using the technology in three separate pilot programs in u.s. airports. in a draft report the national institute of standards and technology found the accuracy rates for black and female subjects were consistently lower than those of white and male subjects. in the first hearing on facial recognition technology last week both the chairman and ranking members expressed grave concerns about this technology. >> a huge potential to affect a number of different applications. right now it is virtually unregulated. >> time for a time-out. 50 million cameras, real concerns. >> those fears are born out of real life experiences. they have false matches as high as 90%. the f.b.i. disputes that boasting about much higher accuracy rate. more jurisdictions are adopting facial recognition technology in high crime areas, many members are expected to recommend a halt to its use until the constitutional limits are better defined and the technology improves. >> sandra: thank you. >> bill: police uncovering potential new leads now in the case of a missing mother of five. they are asking the public's help in finding more. retired detective steve rogers with us next hour coming up on that. >> sandra: tech giants facing a battle from congress when it comes to their power in the market. charles payne is here to break it all down. it has been affecting markets. we'll have that next. don't just dream about your next vacation. book your next vacation. ♪ be a booker at booking.com i never thought i'd say this but i found bladder leak underwear that's actually pretty. always discreet boutique. hidden inside is a super absorbent core that quickly turns liquid to gel. so i feel protected and pretty. always discreet boutique. >> sandra: congress launching an antitrust investigation into the power of big tech. likely targeting companies like google and facebook and whether there is enough competition in the tech sector. let's bring in charles payne host of making money on the fox business network. despite the scare, markets up big time today. the dow is up 352 points. >> a nice rebound. the tech names are wishy-washy as facebook, amazon. up fractionally. >> facebook is down. they're under a tremendous amount of pressure. the market reacting there won't be mexican tariffs and federal research chairman said something positive opening the door for additional rates. >> sandra: where is the market getting there won't be tariffs when the president just said there likely will be. >> his language changed when he was talking about morning but there is a high ranking representative from mexico who made positive comments and people on our side of the fence starting to say the right things. the second leg. we were up about 250 points on that. the last 100 points came moments ago when jay powell left the door open for rate cuts. not to digress too much. >> sandra: these words are important. >> market is reacting to them. that's good. >> bill: my sense. if you've got this administration, department of justice looking at this big tech companies and you have house democrats doing something similar, that is a two-prong front they will be fighting and for how long? >> there is a reason the fcc and department of justice is a prelude to the next level looking at breaking them up. facebook, antitrust, i'm not sure. google, though, with the search, i think they have the biggest problem perhaps of all of them. amazon strictly with its anti-competitiveness. not that amazon prices are high and have a monopoly but a company went after christmas tree sellers last christmas. people who wait all year long to sell live christmas trees in empty parking lots for the last month of the year to feed their family. amazon said yeah, we want some of that, too. >> bill: government went after microsoft. how long did it take that process? >> decades. when we went after ibm years ago i think ibm fought the justice department. little companies popped up like microsoft they weren't paying attention to. you look at the telephone companies, they broke them up and reconstituted themselves and now there are only a couple anyway. this is one thing where a lot of people like to have the markets fight. think about this, we're talking about four companies, right? i already see where they embedded each other's business. you have the competition. the four companies we're talking about breaking up can break each other up and compete against each other and drive the business. >> sandra: if the government let it play out would it happen >> it could happen. you hear about one of these companies veering into someone's turf. a few working on the cloud. microsoft and amazon battling it out over cloud and other companies want action, too. if they wait they will be able to let real competition break them down but i will say there is some behavior that both sides of the aisle don't like when it comes to censorship and some other things. they've been shaken down by the europeans and have had to pay billions of fines and they will probably have to pay fines on this side of the aisle. >> bill: did you watch jeopardy monday night? the reigning champ, near record streak is now over. reaction on an extraordinary run. the potential match-up that everyone is dying to see. >> sandra: charles payne and bill hemmer. >> bill: for 1,000, alex. we see two travelers so at a comfort innal with a glow around them, so people watching will be like, "wow, maybe i'll glow too if i book direct at choicehotels.com". who glows? 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when she no longer is the head of her party. brexit and trade on the agenda as well as celebrating a long alliance between our two nations. >> president trump: our special relationship is grounded in many things. the extraordinary alliance between the american and the british people. it's the greatest alliance the world has ever known. >> it is this deep, special relationship and partnership between the united states and united kingdom that insures our safety and security and the safety and security of others around the world, too. that's a relationship we should cherish, a relationship we should build on, a relationship we should be proud of. >> bill: chief white house correspondent john roberts live outside buckingham palace in central london. john, hello. >> good afternoon to you from london. it was a significant event there. the last time that president trump and prime minister theresa may, after working together -- i was there in the oval office the first time they met after working together for almost 2 1/2 years will now be parting ways as the british prime minister steps down this friday. the president, though, saying he believes that the relationship between the united states and the u.k. will remain strong and he is bullish on the possibilities of cutting a trade deal, a new trade deal between the united states and u.k. as well. the president saying he enjoyed his trip here. enjoyed his time with the queen behind me in buckingham palace and made fun of the vaunted protests that were supposed to happen around this trip. we passed by several significant groups of protestors in trafalgar square and the square across the street from parliament. the numbers weren't as big as what they were billed to be. protest organizers said they were going to attract a quarter million people to london. we didn't see anything near that number. the president did receive some significant criticism from the opposition leader jeremy corbin for his visit as well as the mayor of london, mr. khan, the president has had a long running feud. the president responding to both of those leaders earlier today. listen. >> president trump: you are talking about the mayor of london, is that who you said? i think he has been a not very good mayor, a negative force, not a positive force. if you look at what he said, he hurts the people of this great country. i don't know jeremy corbin, never met him. he wanted to meet today or tomorrow and i decided i would not do that. >> the british prime minister theresa may was criticized by corbin and khan for hosting meetings with the president. she sort of hit back at them a little bit saying the meetings we had today were about the future of the united states, u.k. relationship and therefore were very important. i got a chance to ask the president a question about mexico. in recent days mexican officials say they have taken greater steps toward apprehending and deporting central american migrants in mexico illegally trying to forestall the imposition of a 5% tariff on all goods for mexico scheduled to go into effect on monday. i asked the president whether it was enough. he seemed to indicate it wasn't and that tariffs were in the cards for mexico. listen here. >> president trump: i think it's more likely that the tariffs go on. and we'll probably be talking during the time the tariffs are on and they will be paid. if they don't step up and give us security for our nation, look, millions of people are flowing through mexico. that's unacceptable. >> the issue of brexit also came up. the president and theresa may both saying the u.k. should make good on the results of the referendum that was held and that the u.k. should eventually leave the european union. the big question is whether there will be a deal or there won't be a deal. the president is saying you don't have a deal that's fine. sign a free trade agreement with the united states and do two or three times of business than what we're doing now. theresa may tried and failed three times to get a deal on brexit. i asked her was it possible to get a deal or is it a knot that can't be untied and whether she should have taken president trump's advice negotiating with the e.u. >> i personally believe it is in the best interests of the u.k. to leave the european union with a deal. i seem to remember the president suggested i sued the european union. we didn't do that. we went to negotiations and came out with a good deal. >> the president joked to say he would have sued but probably would have settled. the two leaders left on a very good note. the president really articulated this that he has enjoyed having theresa may as a partner in doing business across the atlantic ocean and that the long and special relationship between the united states and u.k. will endure regardless who is the leader. jeremy corbin were to become prime minister that could change the equation. >> bill: they were very gracious toward one another. john roberts, buckingham palace. >> sandra: let's bring in brit hume fox news senior political analyst. good morning. what a morning it has been. it's been quite a last 24, 36 hours. the president talking this morning at that news conference about how well he has been treated. especially dinner last night with the queen and he said how he described the current relationship is the greatest alliance the world has ever known. what has struck you so far about the president's visit? >> the back drop of this visit and the real occasion for it is the commemorations of d-day, which was a joint british/u.s. invasion of the normandy beaches held by the germans in world war ii. a daunting task, one of the most momentous military actions in modern history and it was a close-run thing that nearly failed. its success paved the way for the liberation of france and ultimately for the liberation of europe from nazi tyranny. it was a very big deal and it was something that these two nations, allies as they've been for many years embarked upon together and that relationship persists and that is really what is being celebrated and why i think the queen, who remembers those things well, was happy to host the president and not because she thinks donald trump is the greatest guy that ever lived but because see a representative of the united states of america, britain's most consequential ally. >> sandra: looking at some of the pictures from the state dinner last evening. as you are talking, brit, i'm noticing the dow in the corner screen. we have been on dow watch. now up 418 points. the president made some news in that conference talking about -- it was the answer to our own john roberts asking about mexican deportation of central american migrants. what we're seeing there. the increase of that and whether or not the president would consider not imposing these tariffs. the president did not back off and said it is likely those will go on as planned june 10th. >> the market has had the jitters now for some weeks about trade. trade with china and now trade with mexico as well and so on. and people are looking for the way this recovery, which has been going on for a decade, might be derailed and when they do they think well, trade wars could do it and trade wars certainly could. the president has chosen tariffs as his tool of not only affecting trade, but also other things as well. it is the sanctions we've imposed on north korea as well as on china and others that have brought us to the current pass where we are. anything that eases people's worries about a trade war with mexico on top of the other anxieties people are feeling in the markets is going to bring a rally. we have a 400-point rally and still climbing. >> sandra: next topic i want to go on to 2020. senator kirsten gillibrand did the town hall with chris wallace sunday night and she slammed the nra. it is getting a lot of attention here. here is that moment. >> americans are feeling ripped apart by the gun deaths we have seen year after year, month after month, children dying. we need to do something about it. i think the most outrageous thing that's happened to our democracy is how much fear and division and hate has been spread. i think the nra is the worst organization in this country for doing exactly that. they care more about their profits than the american people. >> sandra: she certainly took on the nra calling it the worst organization in the country. the nra responded with a letter that it received from gillibrand in 2008. she called us the worst organization but then wrote us i appreciate the work the nra does to protect gun owners rights and look forward to working with you for many years. now that she is looking to crack 1% she will say anything. that was the nra responding to the presidential candidate, brit. >> nra has a point. i used to think charlie crist of florida was the most flexible politician i had ever seen. i think that honor my now belong to kirsten gillibrand. she has flipped on so many issues now. in the course of her run for the senate after being a member of the house, and now of course she is running for president and trying to seek the toe hold in a race where she hasn't made much headway. so the flip-flops are coming thick and fast and this attitude toward the nra is but one of them. saying the nra cares about their profits. i wonder if she understands the nra is not the gun makers trade association. the nra is the gun owners association. and it's not a for-profit organization. so it's kind of an absurd claim and it's a widely held misapprehension about the nra. the nra's strength politically doesn't come from gun company money, it comes from the ardent feelings of its rather large membership. which will mobilize and vote against you in a block if you run afoul of their views on the second amendment. so i wonder if kirsten gillibrand knows what she is talking about. >> sandra: very interesting analysis. interesting to see how that goes on and affects her run. brit hume, always good to see you. thank you very much. >> we had two days worth of hearing that we basically identified that the prosecution not only lied to the judge in our case but lied to the u.s. attorney's office and that my husband's constitutional rights were completely violated in the process. >> bill: that's andrea gallagher, the wife of eddie gallagher accused of murdering a prisoner of isis after her husband was released from custody to until trial. the judge dismissed a prosecutor. william la jeunesse covering that now from our west coast newsroom with more on what's happening today. good morning. >> good morning, bill. defense didn't get what it wanted, the case dismissed or mistrial. they got close and they filed motions to get the charges thrown out down the line. the judge removed the lead military prosecutor after defense attorneys accused him of installing electronic bug to spy on the defense team which they discovered this tracking software embedded in the logo of a bald eagle perched on the scales of justice that appeared under his signature. civilian defense attorney who detected the cheating. >> i expect there should be congressional investigations on this. i think there should be indictments. i think the certain ncis agents should be taken out in cuffs. >> bill: gallagher served eight combat tours is accused of killing an isis militant while in custody and two iraqi civilians. i'll send it back to you now. we'll find out hopefully in the next week or so whether or not the case is thrown out or goes forward. >> bill: a lot of attention on this case. >> sandra: paul manafort serving time for tax and bank fraud. now the former trump campaign manager is moving to a location that has held some of the most notorious criminals in u.s. history. >> bill: a lot of the 2020 democratic candidates taking aim at joe biden for skipping the event in california over the weekend. what does it mean for the race so far? ari fleischer 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[booing] >> if we want to beat donald trump and achieve big goals, socialism is not the answer. >> sandra: talking medicare and socialism and didn't go over too well with the koud there, ari. >> but if you're delaney or hickenlooper you are happy. they're getting some attention to their obscure campaigns and it shows how out of sorts they are with the liberal base of the party. there is tremendous tension in the democratic party. the liberal activist who want to take the party more socialistic and those who want to stay grounded and potentially could beat donald trump. biden has done well the who can beat trump movement is a bit larger now, it seems, than the go to the far left vision that the democrats want to fulfill. so that is what you have to keep your eye on. that still when it comes down to one-on-one biden will be tested if he doesn't blow himself up first, we all know joe biden has a habit of doing. >> sandra: and want to get in here your firm is doing media training for the rnc. important disclosure as we continue to look how things play out in the democratic side here and your analysis is very important. we asked karl rove about what played out on that stage in california earlier. he responded like this. >> the california democratic party convention in san francisco is not representative of democrat activists nationwide and certainly not representative of democratic primary voters nationwide. but they were trying to break out to say i'll be a traditional democrat. if you want to be there with one of these nutty left-wing candidates be that. we'll lose if we go that route. i thought it was a way to break out. >> sandra: a short time left if you respond. >> that's exactly right. the california party itself is far, far left. they didn't even support dianne feinstein. she still prevailed in the election out there. the party establishment, the party regulars there no, they are the left of the far, far left. >> sandra: we'll see as it goes on. ari fleischer, great to see you this morning. >> bill: another story picking up steam. substantial speed. house democrats behind closed doors this morning pressure building on speaker pelosi on impeachment. assistant a.g. tom dupree weighs in on that coming up next. we see two travelers so at a comfort innal with a glow around them, so people watching will be like, "wow, maybe i'll glow too if i book direct at choicehotels.com". who glows? just say, badda book. badda boom. book now at choicehotels.com let's begin now with bill barr and don mcgahn. they can defy the subpoena. house can take a vote next week in all likelihood it would get the votes needed. what would happen after that? >> let's see, a number of different possible paths. one is that the house could try to enforce the contempt citation and bring it to the justice department. i don't think the democrats have much hope of any action being taken on that front. i suspect at the end of the day the only power the house has over these folks is to hold them in contempt, think that amounts to kind of a black mark on their record and then move on. >> bill: you could take this to court, right? >> they could. >> bill: then what would happen? how has that played out before? >> in the past you've seen the democrats or people on the hill go to court. the republicans did it when eric holder was in office and they would go to ask a judge to try to enforce the subpoena. the problem with that i think for the democrats is that it's a long process. it is unlikely that would be resolved in a matter of days. i think we'd be talking weeks or months at the most and the whole time the democrats would be pounding the drum for investigations but not getting tangible results. >> bill: hillary clinton tweeted this. did you catch this? she said i don't know who needs to hear this but the president is not above the law. they will put pressure on nancy pelosi. i think the count last week was 40 democrats and one republican. might be as high as 50 democrats and one republican who have favored impeachment proceedings. if that number stays there, tom, it is likely not going anywhere. >> that's the thing, bill. it isn't going anywhere in the house. even if they were to able to mulls tear a majority in the house it wouldn't go anywra in the senate. they're in a bit of a box. you have a vocal element of the caucus pounding the drum hard for impeachment. you have now a majority of the democrats in the house who recognize at the end of the day impeachment would be an empty road and why they're pursuing investigations so hard. they think even if we don't get impeachment maybe they can influence or impact in the court of public opinion. simply by bringing in former administration officials and making talking points again and again. >> bill: hope hicks. she is the executive vice president of chief communications officer for fox corporation. so she is in the family here. why would they want to subpoena hope hicks? what does she have, tom? >> i think from the democrats' perspective she is someone who has been very close to the president for years. she was closely involved in the campaign. she had a role in the administration. she plays a role in the mueller report. and so i think from the democrats' perspective it would be a chance to question her in her capacity who was a fly on the wall for many meetings. who had a lot of discussions with the president and present on air force one and maybe the democrats from their perspective would be able to fill in some of the gaps in the mueller report. i think that's a pretty uphill task for them but i suspect that's what they're driving at. >> bill: it will continue, isn't it? what is their resolution in the end? continue to nick away in different areas? >> i think it is. are the vocal elements within the democratic caucus satisfied with the slow-paced investigation route or will louder voices take charge and push pelosi into bringing impeachment proceedings or the possibility of 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i think it's in the best interests of the u.k. to leave the european union in an orderly way with a deal. >> bill: president trump pushing for brexit asking may to stick around and complete a deal as protestors take to the streets in london. raheem kassam former advisor to nigel farage. what did you hear from the press conference earlier today? >> thank you for having me, bill. it was an extraordinary press conference. it seems everything that should be going the way it should be going is going the way it should be going. that's to the chagrin of a lot of liberal commentators on both sides of the pond. they expected faux pas and things not to go right for the president. from a formal and ceremonial perspective everything is going quite well. the press conference was interesting. the talk of trade and brexit. president trump has always been a supporter of brexit when he heard about it. but he still remains supportive of it. i think the potential for a big trade deal between the u.k. and u.s. is probably at its peak right now. we should get on with negotiating. >> bill: how come, why now? >> well, because we're at the precipice of leaving the european union. october 31 is and will be the final deadline. no doubting that. everybody who is favored to run as the next prime minister are saying look, we've put it back enough. it is time we started negotiating this deal. we've talked about it for a decade behind the scenes, conservative back been muchers have been talking about how the u.s. and u.k. can work better together on trade. >> bill: you get a deal, you sell it to the people in the u.k. and you get a bigger push to make the exit. that's what you are describing here. >> well, i just don't think we need to deal with the european union. they don't want to do a deal with the united kingdom. the united states has made it clear they want to make a deal. we are are old allies. it behooves both of us to get on the business of that and not allow the corbins and khans to disrupt that. >> khan is the mayor of london. and on brexit the president says it probably should happen. may saying we should deliver on that promise. october 31 is the deadline on that. go to the sound bite of donald trump on his decision not to meet with jeremy corbin in the press conference two hours ago. >> president trump: i don't know jeremy corbin, never met him. never spoke to him. he wanted to meet today or tomorrow and i decided that i would not do that. i think that he is, from where i come from, somewhat of a negative force. i really don't like critics as much as i like and respect people that get things done. so i've decided not to meet. >> bill: we don't know entirely what the relationship is with mayor khan and the rest of the people in london. perhaps you can enlighten us. you agree with the comments when he said a negative force. >> i wrote yesterday the piece about why sadiq kahn is a stone cold loser. presided over congestion and crime rates and homelessness go growing up and trying to grandstand on the world stage. he insults the president. that's a negative influence. the same with jeremy corbin. he is supposed to be her majesty's loyal opposition party leader. today he relegated himself to protestor. he protested outside downing street against the president's visit while having reached out to the president in his own words he said he would meet with the president and it doesn't ring true for the public in britain. outside of london. london is very demographically similar to new york city. outside of london people are pleased because of the commemoration of the d-day landing. an incredibly important part of both our histories. i think the labor party have done themselves a great disservice over the course of this trip and i believe trump was right. once upon a time trump said he had the best words. he had the best words against khan, he is a stone cold loser. >> bill: when you describe d-day and the events of normandy they will start to play out tomorrow. >> sandra: china criticizing mike pompeo with his comments about the tin man square massacre after he called for full accountability by beijing for the deadly crackdown on those protests back in 1989. saluting the demonstrators as heroes. kitty logan is live in london for us. >> china has never officially acknowledged the protests in tiananmen square. they've been cracking down on any dissidents who may have spoken out about it. 30 years ago the chinese government cracks down on pro-democracy activist with troops and tanks. they were calling for freedom of speech. many were killed. china has never noted the exact death toll. secretary of state mike pompeo has been remembering the courage of those protestors in a statement he said we salute the heroes of the chinese people who bravely stood up 30 years ago in tiananmen square to demand their rights. we urge the chinese government to make a full, public accounting of those killed or missing. now chinese authorities have accused mike pompeo of attacking their political system. all mentions of tiananmen square are removed from the internet. but the authorities have increased security in the area ahead of the anniversary closing down roads, putting up checkpoints. it does appear to be quiet but the u.n. says it has reports of detentions and increased censorship leading up to today. in hong kong, though, students have held a candlelight vigil and a minute of silence to remember the tiananmen square victims. people there have greater freedom to express views. small but heated protests. all these years later tiananmen square is a divisive issue between china, the u.s. and the rest of the international community. >> sandra: kitty, thank you. >> bill: 20 minutes before the hour. gruesome discovery in the state of connecticut. police investigating what happened fora missing mother of five. her estranged husband and his girlfriend were charged this week. why more charges might be on the way. my skin... it 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it's a small town north of new york city, fairfield, connecticut. how do you handle it? >> they'll bring in a lot of law enforcement personnel from other agencies. the footage people could provide the police from their homes. a lot of us have cameras. it will be extraordinary evidence for the police to perhaps charge him with, i believe. this is only my opinion based on my experience, he could be facing homicide charges very soon. >> sandra: you have the map up of multiple locations where he was apparently spotted on this security cameras but also there were multiple homes involved that they will have to investigate. the police have put out a statement. anybody, please look at your security footage cameras, call us if you see any unusual activity because the residence of these areas could certainly help. >> they will call. they're very upset over what happened here. the most important piece of evidence may come from the girlfriend. they always flip. i could see where a deal may be in the making where she flips on him. there will be a little lighter on her and they'll go after him. as i said last week, he was the target. he was the person of interest. he was the suspect. extraordinary police work. >> sandra: boy, does this story run deep. we're learning that the father pictured there, they are keeping him. they did not release him on bond. the girlfriend is released and has a gps blt on. he was dating the girlfriend for a year before filing for divorce from now missing jennifer dulos. they had five children together. the girlfriend also had children. she and the kids moved in with him. before they were divorced. a lot of details we're learning about this. >> in addition to that i understand the wife had enumerateed many times she was in fear of him. there is a lot of missing pieces, a lot of dots to connect. the police are right on track. wait until they go to the trash bins, the areas where they believe the trash bags were dumped. there will be strong physical evidence that they will find. >> sandra: arrest warrants is where we learned all of this about the attempt to clean up blood splatter from the garage of jennifer dulos's home. they ditched blood stained materials, 30 trash bins in hartford later that night and why the security footage will be key. state forensic teams determined the blood belonged to jennifer dulos. we're getting more facts in the case. >> think about this. the police were so good in this investigation they didn't release information that would contaminate the evidence or compromise the investigation. they're on to something significant, i have to tell you. i keep repeating it, extraordinary police work. >> sandra: as far as it looking like him in this security footage they were able to tie he and his girlfriend's cell phones to the hartford area and seen on that security footage. a lot of pieces are coming together. >> they are. it is a multiple number of evidence they will find and connect those dots. we'll find at the end of the story soon. >> sandra: they are using everything at their disposal to search for this missing mother of five. steve, i'm sure we'll see you again as we continue to get updates on the story. >> bill: "outnumbered" comes up next. here is melissa francis. good morning. what are you doing? 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was of the president suggesting theresa may should sue? >> sandra: filling the news conference. >> bill: i like to brit hume you smitty. >> sandra: i don't mind it, we welcome it. a great three hours. "outnumbered" starts now. >> harris: a lot to get to this r. fox news alert, president trump on his state visit to the united kingdom holding up joint news conference with u.k. prime minister theresa may. by the migration crisis here in north america is looming large. you are watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today is melissa francis, fox business network anchor dagen mcdowell, fox news contributor jessica tarlov, and in the center seat, yes! host of "the next revolution," going to revolutionize "outnumbered"! steve hilton. >> steve: that's a nice, warm welcome. thank you so much! >> harris: i'm glad you are here. let's get to the news. are you ready? >> steve: i'm up for it. >> harris: oversees the president asked about

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and we want to do and we will get it done. >> the president getting the royal treatment as he had into trade talks on day 2 of his state visit in the uk. >> let's pump and circumstance for the protesters preparing to flood the streets. we have fox news team coverage live from london and not so sweet surprise for one family. >> wait to you see what they found when they opened up this graduation cake. "fox and friends first" continues right now. >> >> good song. >> on your approved list of songs? >> absolutely. a short list as produces of this show do know. you are watching "fox and friends first" on tuesday morning. >> thank you for starting the day with us. let's begin with a fox news alert, donald trump thousand work towards a substantial trade deal with the uk just moments ago. >> kevin cork is live in front of buckingham palace and we expect more policy after a day full of pageantry yesterday, right? >> great to be back with you talking at buckingham palace. a lot of pageantry today and down to business, the business roundtable already underway for the president. more on that in a bit. the president has had a tremendous time at the state dinner during the state visit. i think it encapsulated what this is really all about. let me share the pictures if you didn't see last night. the president and the queen exchanging toasts to our wonderful enduring relationship and even better, our great futures together. >> as we honor our shared victory and heritage we affirm the common values that will unite us long into the future, freedom, sovereignty, self-determination, of law and reverence for the rights given to us by almighty god. >> reporter: it was quite an evening and for good measure the entire trump claim is there. we saw yvonne, jared, tiffany, and senior administration officials like steve mnuchin. a warm kickoff to the state visit but today in the cold hard light of day it is indeed back to business. we mentioned the business roundtable underway at this hour with the president and the prime minister teresa may it will soon be leaving office, later on the president and the first lady will head to 10 downing st. part of a busy day. we also expect a joint availability by the president and the outgoing prime minister and a visit to the churchill war rooms and dinner this evening at winfield house for the prince of wales and the duchess of cornwall. the president has also been on twitter but, he posted a nice video of day one here in london. he also tweeted this. london part of the trip is going really well, the queen and the entire royal family have been fantastic. the relationship with the united kingdom is very strong, tremendous crowd of well-wishers and people that love our country. haven't seen any protest yet but i am sure the fake news will be working hard to find them. great love all around. also big trade deals possible once uk gets rid of the shackles already starting to talk, shackles in this case being its relationship with the eu. i can tell you this, protests will be the order of the day. we expect the fast majority, will be anti-trump, there will be some pro-trump demonstrations as well. the trump balloon baby your baby blimp already being inflated in one part of town. a lot of areas are cordoned off so we will have difficulty getting in and around, benjamin holland others will have the details but for now back to you. >> will be an interesting day to pay attention to. >> now to a fox news alert, a shoot out at the southern border. driver opening fire on border patrol agents after failing to stop for an inspection. cbp confirms this shooting happened overnight in san diego. police say a white pickup truck was attempting to pass through and refused to stop. according to local reports, the driver started shooting and multiple officers fired back. the driver was killed. overnight the federal judge rejects a house challenge to block border wall funding, the trump administration now able to diverge millions of dollars for construction. >> griff jenkins joins us from washington with details on a big defeat for democrats. >> federal judge in washington denying house democrats who argued the administration's wall funding violated the appropriations clause of the constitution. us district judge trevor mcfadden tossing the lawsuit saying the house cannot conscript the judiciary in a political turf or with the president, mcfadden writing the constitution bestows on members of the house certain powers it does not grant them to hold the executive branch in court claiming congress at legislative authority, no word on whether democrats attend to appeal this ruling, the president's ratify% tariffs on mexican good news remains in washington, mexico's ambassador to the us had this to say. >> tariffs could cause financial and economic instability. which means many people -- could read address migration flows and offer alternatives to the new migrants who have recently arrived in mexico. >> reporter: stakes couldn't be higher for border that sees $1.8 billion worth of goods traded daily. wilbur ross issuing this statement, today i met with mexico's minister to discuss bilateral trade in the united states upcoming plan to test mexican goods. we talked about steps where the us, mexico, canada agreement are reiterating the president's message that mexico needs to do more to help the us address immigration across the southern border, to take effect as soon as next monday with an additional threat of 5% every month, 25% in october meetings continue between the two countries today. >> always coming up on the show. thanks so much. >> lead prosecutor taken off navy seal eddie gallagher's war crimes, military judge ordered the removal days after the decorated veteran was freed over misconduct allegations. now admitting to secretly tracking emails blogging to gallagher's legal team. to find the source leaked to the press. gallagher is charged with murdering and isis prisoner in 2017, the trial is scheduled to begin next week. rob: democrats call for stricter gun control in the wake of the virginia beach massacre, 12 people killed when the city employee opened fire in a government building on friday, the washington post now reporting around northram may call for a special session on gun laws today, the senate majority leader, republican tommy norman says he is open to legislative talks despite his record of opposing those bills. police don't have a motive for this. the newly released resignation letter said he's leaving his job for personal reasons and it was a pleasure working for the city. >> for trump campaign manager paul manafort transferred to one of the worst prisons in the country. a source telling fox news he could move to rikers island as early as thursday, it has held the most high profile violent criminals in new york including david berkowitz, son of sam, mark david chapman who killed john lennon. manafort is serving four years for tax and bank fraud. will be held in solitary confinement. rob: consent charges could come down for william barr and don began. congress set to vote after both legally congressional subpoenas relating to the russia investigation. the vote is likely to follow along party lines. the hearing for the mueller report on monday without the former special counsel himself. >> the vice president and second lady head to oklahoma to tour flooding damage. they will offer federal assistance to people affected by the devastating rising waters in tulsa. rob: it is hurting the economy in arkansas, losing $20 million every day as bridges have been forced to close and there is even more rain on the way. janice dean is tracking these storms. endless spring. >> and tropical moisture will move into the region as well. not a good story we will keep following. looking at the radar we have thunderstorms in the central us again, severe storms including large hail, damaging wind and flooding rainfall in the forecast. there is your severe threat stretching from the southwest to the great lakes. all these areas can't take any more water. not a drop of water. the threat for strong to severe storms and flooding because we have some tropical trouble. regardless of whether this developed into a depression or storm the message is the same, more water in these areas that are soaking wet so your tropical models we expect a chance for this to develop before it impacts land but regardless of whether it gets a storm name the bottom line is more rain in areas that have been flood ravaged. mississippi river valley, arkansas river valley, ohio river valley, it is endless. i wish i had better news. >> down to business in london, donald trump meeting with theresa may as protesters plan to flood the streets. >> everything from trade to north korea and afghanistan. our next guest is here to a claim why she think the president's message resonates around the world. >> no time to hit the gym before the beach? no problem. >> the new shirt doing all the and work for you. stay tuned. ♪ or just want to use your love tonight ♪ $329/month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. we see two travelers so at a comfort innal with a glow around them, so people watching will be like, "wow, maybe i'll glow too if i book direct at choicehotels.com". who glows? just say, badda book. badda boom. book now at choicehotels.com >> donald trump and outgoing british prime minister theresa may attending a breakfast roundtable. right now in london it on the menu of topics negotiating a potential trade deal with the uk alone. carley: why is this alliance more important now than ever? joining us to weigh in his international relations expert doctor rebecca grant. appreciate your time. in your opinion what does success look like for the united states? >> this meeting is already a success because britain is our number one our live. i like the trump is bringing the right message at the right time and his message is it is okay to negotiate hard on trade to secure the future of your country. he brings that message strongly at a crucial time as great britain struggles with the next step in parting from the european union. >> he talks about breaking a big trade deals and negotiating one on one with countries and he like that dynamic better and that is what he is trying to do with the uk. wise it better for our country to go into a negotiation just with the uk versus the entire european union? >> the president love these trade talks. the uk for us is one of our major trading partners ranking seventh in total value of trade, they are really up in the elite group and that means we can look at a specific range of products and donald trump can encourage additional trade without having to worry about the restrictions imposed by the eu. that is the main thing. rob: let's look at the objectives for the united states during trade talks with the uk and on that list using greater access to british agricultural products, reduction of strict food safety standards, avoid manipulating exchange rates, duty-free access for industrial goods and no customs duties on us digital products. what is the most important thing to tackle on that list? >> agriculture has always been a key issue, one of the reasons the uk is happy to be looking at getting out of the eu. -- agricultural sectors important and restrictions within the eu have been tough. it is down to specific commodities, things like butter moving forward but it is important to be able to broker the deal separately and not have to go through the mechanisms of the eu bureaucracy and that goes down to the rest of the items you mentioned. shannon: anything else you would add to that list? >> there is always our important defense relationship. we do a lot of defense trades both ways with missiles, weapons and other things and that is always very key in the us uk trade relationship. >> getting into the healthcare business in the uk, they have medicare for all in the uk which is somewhat popular there and the united states wants to get some of that business in the uk is pushing back on that idea. >> a lot of that trade goes to services but also specific commodities like drugs, blood and other medicines. it is down the weeds but there is a private-sector commodity healthcare peace in the uk market that might open the possibility for better individual trade relationships in the healthcare sector. >> the question about the president's support for brexit the people argue could have a negative impact. >> he is pro-brexit. they voted to leave the european union and that is the plan the uk is on in terms of maintaining a strong pro-brexit position. that is right with his philosophy and a good path forward for the uk as well. >> thank you so much. it is 19 after the hour. 2020 long shot kirsten gillibrand called over her flip-flop on the second amendment. >> the nra is the worst organization in this country. >> the upstate new york district, you boasted in a rating. >> the nra just took a shot. that is coming up, stay tuned. we're the slowskys. we like drip coffee, layovers- -and waiting on hold. what we don't like is relying on fancy technology for help. snail mail! we were invited to a y2k party... uh, didn't that happen, like, 20 years ago? oh, look, karolyn, we've got a mathematician on our hands! check it out! now you can schedule a callback or reschedule an appointment, even on nights and weekends. today's xfinity service. simple. easy. awesome. i'd rather not. shannon: welcome back. the fate of misery's last abortion clinic will be decided today. a court will rule of the state's only planned parenthood can remain open after a judge approved a temporary restraining order hours -- hours before it was set to close on friday. the clinic was sent to this license when the state refused to renew whatever patient safety concerns was planned parenthood sued misery to keep the clinic open. >> the young couple dies after contracting a mystery virus on a dream vacation on the island of fiji. david and michelle paul family members notified of their second death the day before they were set to return to the united states. a family er doctor said it is important to do your research before you travel anywhere. >> reporter: make sure when you are traveling be up-to-date with your travel vaccines, know where you are going. if there's an area where there is an outbreak take precautions. use mosquito repellent and be careful. >> really scary when you're that young. the official cause of death is not been determined. the texas couple leaves behind two kids. back here at home. the nra is firing back at 2020 hopeful kirsten gillibrand after she said this at a fox news townhall. >> the nra is the worst organization in this country. they care more about their profits than the american people. >> in the wake of those comments the nra publishes a letter from 2008 when congressional representative gillibrand wrote in part, quote, i always have and always will believe the correct interpretation of the second amendment is it applies to an individual's right to carry guns. i appreciate the work the nra does to protect gun owners and look forward to working with you for many years. a different take. >> politics 101, 24 after the hour the president using the power of the trump book to try to help solve the crisis at the 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and his dean at the boycott. the secretary saying this. >> it is totally inappropriate for the labour party to boycott this important visit. this is the president of the united states. >> the organizers hope to attend, the numbers a lot lower. we are seeing pro-palestine, lgbt causes in the social workers pretty giving indication, we will see if this increase the way they hope it does. >> the search is on for an accused murderer released from jail by mistake, eric whale accused of killing a man in a drive-by shooting in broward county, florida in october. he was released after the initial charge of second-degree murder was dismissed in favor of first-degree charge. his family shocked to find out that he is still they wanted man. >> my house was surrounded with deputy sheriffs with machine guns. they told me they were looking for eric so i said what for? just let him out of jail. >> a huge mistake, the sheriff's office claims nobody told him to hold fail on the first-degree murder charge after the second-degree charge had been dropped. >> blood he probes them to trash cans found, investigators were say they were placed there by someone matching the description of jennifer does's estranged husband. he is charged with hindering prosecution and tampering with evidence. his girlfriend is free on bail. they were in a bitter custody battle when she went missing two weeks ago. >> felons could soon vote from behind bars in washington dc. lawmakers are proposing a bill that would change decades old line and restore voting rights to incarcerated criminals was one councilmembers is the measure would allow in mates to become productive members of society. of past dc would be the first us jurisdiction to allow felons to vote by absentee vote. >> former congressman jason chaffetz will not run for governor of utah in 2020. he is a fox news contributor, confirming his plans to show him in prime position for a run. he may have another run in him but it won't be for governor in utah. stay tuned. >> mexico has 6 days to start the surge of migrants across the southern border or face escalating tariffs from the united states. mexico warning both countries would be impacted. >> the tariffs could be very costly for the us economy. the consumers in the united states, and the mexican economy. carley: how will this affect the us economy? thanks for being here. what are we looking at? how could we be impacted by this? >> reporter: it will be a huge impact if the tariffs go into place. they have less then a week. it is easier for the us to deal with mexico than china. this could be revived in the next week but it could be resolved in the next 30 days, china is a bigger problem in the long run. >> republicans including the president's biggest supporters like chuck grassley hate this idea. tell us why he is doing this. >> this is a brilliant tactic by trump in order to get some action about what is going on with the trust coming into the united states or mexico and the illegal immigration. if mexico would be cooperating he would not have done this. i watch the market, 8:00 on thursday night the market started tanking and i said what on earth? then i saw the news come out and that is what was brilliant about it. it was unexpected because it is trying to force the issue with mexico to cooperate and one of the reasons trump is different compared to other presidents of the united states going back to the beginning of time here is donald trump is a businessman and when you are in business you must take action to be profitable and survived. politics, many politicians just talk and there is no action and nothing gets done. at least trump is attempting to get something done. what happened or not? nobody knows but i believe mexico will be easier to deal with in china. mexico is our third greatest trading partner, 500 billion, hopefully something can get done. we buy a lot of fruit and vegetables mexico but illegal immigration is a problem and not only that, all the drugs coming into the country. >> let's look at this graphic talking about different increases of plans to put on mexico if this issue is not resolved and you can see 5% on june 10, '10% increase on july 1st and that goes up to 25% on october 1st. a lot of people i sitting at home saying how will this impact me successfully? what goods are we talking about? when this wednesday #a lot of farmers in the midwest said they were impacted by that so how will this impact people on a personal level? >> if you buy an apple and it comes or a strawberry comes from mexico or whatever fruit and the point is it might be a little more or the stores -- consumers and corporations should be under no illusion these tariffs you should will go away anytime soon in the broader spectrum so 5%, 10% like this to try to give time or so it doesn't impact people in a big way because 5% is small but puts pressure on mexico. china is a different situation. china is not going to give into the pressure. chinese situation is more important. 20% of the world's population visits china. that is amazing. >> let's look at our biggest trade partners, china, $660 billion in a year. you looked out, $611 billion with mexico. the president says how hampering this could be to our economy, it is not as bad because we can buy products from other countries and cut out that country, impact mexico more than it impacts us but can you do that with all the product we bring in from mexico? avocados -- >> ford and gm, those companies have been struggling for years and years so it will affect automakers and as far as walmart, target, companies that accept these costs, they will try to absorb them instead of increasing the cost to consumers, they won't be able to do that. trump is trying to do this for the bigger picture 6 months, 12 months. but up until that point how will -- >> they will have to buy places where they are not increasing the cost or cut back or change spending habits. there is so much more at stake with the bigger picture, obtaining more for a lightbulb. you got to give him credit because you go into the election is almost like he says i'm doing what i want to do and what is right for the american people and don't care. >> >> they are politically on popular and they care about getting reelected. >> i think he gets reelected because the economy is doing so well. >> 38 minutes after the are the president is not above the law according to hillary clinton who just weighed in on impeachment talks. >> is she? social media sounding off on hypocrisy with a strong message for the failed presidential candidate. carley: walmart offering employees free test prep and debt-free college courses. rob: tracy carrasco has more on the retail giant efforts to recruit high school students. >> reporter: walmart announcing major plans and benefits for its workers who are still in high school. walmart saying they will offer sat and act prep classes, also offering 2 to 3 general education college courses to these students as well. there are not many high schoolers working at walmart. walmart says there 25 years and people working there under the age of 18 but this is an effort to attract and retain those young workers, start them young in their career and they will stay with walmart their entire lives. carley: we are primaries, what we get for free? >> reporter: amazon announced they would be adding more items to the next day delivery, amazon saying they have up to 10 million items available for next day delivery. carley: we have a graphic without 10 million items. >> reporter: all these items could be delivered, everything from baby wipes to laundry detergent. all the stuff you need immediately amazon will be delivering, upping the andy with retail after amazon announced walmart came back with their next day delivery option but those were only available for certain cities. amazon saying we could deliver all over the country next day, 10 million items. todd: these competing industries get better and better. the moment you click on it it is at your door. carley: amc threatening george over at controversial abortion ban. the network says it is reevaluating filming there, joining half a dozen media and entertainment companies. it would be a major blow to the state. the wildly popular the walking dead is filmed there. >> hillary clinton weighing in on whether donald trump should be impeached tweeting i don't know who needs to hear this but the president is not above the law. carley: your thoughts keep coming in on social media. todd: thai says ironic coming from her. carley: neither is a presidential candidate, be careful what you wish for. rob: accepted or not hillary is above the law. carley: the majority of candidates flocked to their safety net state of california none could understand why joe was a no-show. >> those who have chosen for whatever reason not to be in this room. rob: joe biden was in ohio but did his decision session further in front of the others? our next guest is biden is the left's only hope for 2020. carley: i anticipate a fantastic show. >> reporter: you are 100% correct on prediction. the patriots last year, the super bowl, let me tell you what is on deck. coming up on our show continuing coverage as it happens, the president of the united states experiment in the uk, the latest on his trip, the latest on his meeting with teresa may and crowds and protests and supporters. we have just about all of it as rob whispers under his breath on mike and we have congressman michael walsh on his military background as a green beret. i want him to weigh in on what john kerry is doing. senator rand paul will speak out about what they are doing in the house, bringing in john dean to talk about watergate and comparing it with this administration is going through. there is a place to see that called cnn and newt gingrich will be here talking about joe biden. in 1988, he marched with martin luther king for civil rights 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just being a pragmatic somewhat left of center guy rather than far left is the way to go? >> everybody says that. unless you are extreme far left, people at a cocktail party or different events will say in order to be a successful democrat and run against trump you are going to have to be in the middle, towards the moderate and not so far to the left. it is not going to be sustainable. even barney frank who is extremely liberal said the green new deal and some of these are not -- carley: how much of this is a safetynet because he is so well known and has name recognition and is a comfort to people? >> he has great name id. a lot of people like obama on the democrat side. he was right there with obama with obamacare and other issues that were important. doesn't have the endorsement which is interesting because if you look at the long string of candidates it is pretty surprising obama wouldn't just step out and say this is my guy. carley: do those things matter? >> he is really far ahead. carley: we are coming right back. ♪ ♪ this simple banana peel represents a bold idea: a way to create energy from household trash. it not only saves about 80% in carbon emissions... it helps reduce landfill waste. that's why bp is partnering with a california company: fulcrum bioenergy. to turn garbage into jet fuel. because we can't let any good ideas go to waste. at bp, we see possibilities everywhere. to help the world keep advancing. . . uh-oh, looks like someone's still nervous about buying a new house. is it that obvious? 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