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Their loved ones need to come together and say, weve got to fix this criminal justice system because this is happening all over america every single day. >> and larry -- >> larry: hold it, elex. jane also part of the justice system presumption of innocence? >> well, yeah. hes going to go to trial. hes pleaded not guilty. but they really had him back in 2000. he admitted that he did these things. okay? he pled guilty. they could have easily prosecuted him and locked him away for 30 years. and the...